Dr Martin Luther King saved this country

Do you have a link to this? In the case of PARKS---she was expected to get up for an elederly person as were younger white people. It was just good manners, that she didn't have.

Ahhhh...just found out why..... Rosa wasn't some random spark. She was a member of the NAACP----and they had been planning a bus boycott for MONTHS for this city. Another african american woman well 15 year old-- had much the same incident 9 months earlier and the boycott was planned then but it was found out that the 15 year old was preggie and therefore not sympathetic enough for the black activists/NCAAP to use as their face for the buses who hoped to have blacks put in as bus drivers as their original extortion payment. Gee, sounds like Parks wanted to start an incident as per the activists plans for months and refused to get up for the elderly man to create an incident.
Parks and the NAACP played the white racists
They knew how they would react and got the response they expected
Dr King used an economic boycott instead of direct confrontation. He brought the city bus system to its knees because they relied on black patronage
 
Interesting you should say that

A black getting on a bus had to pay the driver at the front of the bus and then get off and re-enter the bus from the side door so they wouldn’t walk through the white section.
If the white section was full, blacks were expected to give up their seats for white passengers


One point that you are missing is that Alabama was a very liberal state back in the day. Bull Conner was a card carrying Leftard. The state voted for Liberal Extremist FDR 4 times in a row.

It had nothing to do with "Trump" or the "Republicans"
 
One point that you are missing is that Alabama was a very liberal state back in the day. Bull Conner was a card carrying Leftard. The state voted for Liberal Extremist FDR 4 times in a row.

It had nothing to do with "Trump" or the "Republicans"
You Goofy
 
You Goofy

Not at all, I know history.

It was leftist President Roosevelt who decided to deploy a Jim Crow, homo and transphobic army to fight WW2..

He could have ordered the desegregation of the army and navy so that the invasion of Normandy looked like America.

But the sad fact is that he didn't.
 
Not at all, I know history.

It was leftist President Roosevelt who decided to deploy a Jim Crow, homo and transphobic army to fight WW2..

He could have ordered the desegregation of the army and navy so that the invasion of Normandy looked like America.

But the sad fact is that he didn't.

FDR “could have” used WWII to force segregation
But he realized our armed forces were in bad enough shape that forced segregation would impact recruitment.

What FDR did was promise black leaders that if they were patient and supported the war effort, segregation would be addressed after the war.

Instead, when black soldiers returned they were immediately “put in their place”

It was Truman who integrated the armed forces
 
FDR “could have” used WWII to force segregation
But he realized our armed forces were in bad enough shape that forced segregation would impact recruitment.

What FDR did was promise black leaders that if they were patient and supported the war effort, segregation would be addressed after the war.

Instead, when black soldiers returned they were immediately “put in their place”

It was Truman who integrated the armed forces


Military Recruitment wasn't a problem during WW2, President Roosevelt conscripted millions of men.

For a while, they didn't even allow fellows to volunteer, they were too busy processing in the draftees.

As far as black leaders supporting the war effort, I think that was a given. Do you really think that there would be any circumstance that the NAACP would have gotten behind Hitler?
 
The indignities of Jim Crow went beyond riding in the back of the bus

Negroes were not allowed to use the same restrooms as whites. The Colored facilities were often an outhouse

Negroes could not use the same water fountains

They were not allowed to try on clothes or shoes before they bought them. Whites refused to buy clothes a colored person may have worn

They were not allowed to use the public Libraries. Whites did not want to read a book that may have been read by a black person

Restaurants, hotels, swimming pools, hospitals were all off limits to “Negroes”



No nation that allows this kind of treatment of its citizens can be considered great.
Martin Luther King saved us from ourselves
 
The indignities of Jim Crow went beyond riding in the back of the bus

Negroes were not allowed to use the same restrooms as whites. The Colored facilities were often an outhouse

Negroes could not use the same water fountains

They were not allowed to try on clothes or shoes before they bought them. Whites refused to buy clothes a colored person may have worn

They were not allowed to use the public Libraries. Whites did not want to read a book that may have been read by a black person

Restaurants, hotels, swimming pools, hospitals were all off limits to “Negroes”



No nation that allows this kind of treatment of its citizens can be considered great.
Martin Luther King saved us from ourselves
Lots of countries do those things over covid.
 
The indignities of Jim Crow went beyond riding in the back of the bus

Negroes were not allowed to use the same restrooms as whites. The Colored facilities were often an outhouse

Negroes could not use the same water fountains

They were not allowed to try on clothes or shoes before they bought them. Whites refused to buy clothes a colored person may have worn

They were not allowed to use the public Libraries. Whites did not want to read a book that may have been read by a black person

Restaurants, hotels, swimming pools, hospitals were all off limits to “Negroes”



No nation that allows this kind of treatment of its citizens can be considered great.
Martin Luther King saved us from ourselves


None of that was universal. Conservatives like my grandfather who owned a store back in the day sold to customers regardless of their race, creed or natural origin.

It was liberals like JFK- who barred conservative black guy Sammy Davis Jr from his inauguration- and FDR who deployed a Jim Crow Army who were the problem.
 
Nothing odd about it. BOth parties had embraced equal rights for blacks by then. There was a national consensus on the issue.


On that issue.


The lefty love affair with socialism, that was/is still a problem.

That can't be or else there would not be Redlining by those giving mortgages.
Mortgages are the main way out of rent slavery, and it obviously is currently still very discriminatory.
 
One point that you are missing is that Alabama was a very liberal state back in the day. Bull Conner was a card carrying Leftard. The state voted for Liberal Extremist FDR 4 times in a row.

It had nothing to do with "Trump" or the "Republicans"

Totally untrue.
The South voted Democrat because they refused to vote for "the party of Lincoln", but were NOT at all "liberal" in ANY way.
The South had the mythical tradition left over from aristocracy, of the superiority of the wealthy elite.
A real "liberal" is one who believes in inherent individual liberties as being the only source of any legal authority.
So a true liberal can not possibly be racist. ever.
Was FDR "liberal"?
Hard to say.
There are so many conflicting stories.
 
So where are we after over 50 years?

Blacks have much more access in our society
Outright racism is spurned
Interracial relationships are openly accepted
We had a black President and Vice President

Black Lives Matter
Courts are ignoring voting rights
There is still a disparity in employment
35% of Blacks are still having affairs and leaving their families and raiding electronics stores holiday time.
 

The last Gallup poll to ask about his popularity during his lifetime, taken in 1966, found his unfavorable rating was 63%.
Perhaps even more revealing is that a lot of White Americans thought King was doing more harm than good for the fight for civil rights. In a 1966 Harris Poll, 50% of White Americans indicated that he was hurting the Civil Rights effort. A mere 36% said he was helping. King's favorable rating among them was 27% in 1966
 


of note is, MLK's final days took a turn from racism , towards classism....

~S~
Heard one of the top black supporters in Chicago, Father Pflegel saying this morning while honoring MLK that nothing has changed since he was killed! I actually agree with him, it means demofks haven’t done one fking thing for blacks. It’s time to wake up from the dream
 
I grew up in the 60's and saw most of the Civil Rights movement. Like most Americans, I was outraged at the assasination of Dr King. When we talked about giving him a national holiday ten years later, I looked at it as a form of appeasement for outraged blacks.....a way of giving them their own holiday to quiet them down.

In reading about the Civil Rights movement in subsequent years, I realized what a great American Dr King was. Black Americans came back after WWII to find that despite fighting and dying in defense of their country, they were still treated like lesser Americans. They found they were not allowed to mingle with whites, were not welcome in much of the country they had fought for. Blacks were considered to be dirty, diseased and sub human. Some whites were outraged at the thought of eating with blacks, using the same restrooms, riding on public transportation with them.

As black Americans began to protest their treatment in their own country they were met with harsh resistance from both white militants and governments who swore to support inequal treatment. Blacks were denied the right to vote, to freely associate, rights to a fair trial. Those who resisted were met with terrorist attacks. Lynchings, bombings, arrest and assasination of their leaders.

Most of us faced with such horrific treatment in our own homeland would fight violence with violence. How would you react if someone spat on your child for trying to go to school?

When the courts did not protect blacks, armed conflict would seem a reasonable response. Dr King knew violence would only result in more violence against you. He modeled the Civil Rights movement around Gandhis peaceful resistance theories. By using cameras to document the treatment of peaceful protestors he saved this country from an armed violent protest that would have destroyed this country.


America returned from WWII as an economic and military superpower. But a country that does not treat its citizens with respect is not a moral superpower. By changing the way we treat our citizens, Dr King, more importantly, saved our soul. By forcing us to look in a mirror and see who we really are, he enabled us to become a truly great country.

On this Martin Luther King day I hope everyone can reflect on what a great American he was and how much better off we all are

What's amazing is today the left still treat blacks as though they're lessor humans and segregated too.
 
Totally untrue.
The South voted Democrat because they refused to vote for "the party of Lincoln", but were NOT at all "liberal" in ANY way.
The South had the mythical tradition left over from aristocracy, of the superiority of the wealthy elite.
A real "liberal" is one who believes in inherent individual liberties as being the only source of any legal authority.
So a true liberal can not possibly be racist. ever.
Was FDR "liberal"?
Hard to say.
There are so many conflicting stories.
Funny how people like you feel the need to think brainwashing ideas are accepted here! Nice try, facts are when Lincoln was killed demofks made out! Guess why?
 

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