Dr. Fauci Admits That Covid Vaccines May Actually Make People ‘Worse’: “It Would Not Be The First Time”

[Orangecat]

Second, he was talking about why it's important to test vaccines thoroughly for poor reactions before releasing them

Are you contending that the covd vaccines have been thoroughly tested for long-term adverse effects?
Do you also believe a time machine exists?

 

[mudwhistle]

Yeah, nah...he wasn't commenting on what you say.
First off, it's from an interview in March 2020...before the vaccines came out.
Second, he was talking about why it's important to test vaccines thoroughly for poor reactions before releasing them for use after Zuckerberg asked why vaccines can't be rolled out more quickly after they were proven to be safe to inject into people.
Your clip is taken out of context, and it isn't about what you are being told it's about...you're being lied to.

Fauci was not telling Zuckerberg the COVID-19 vaccine would make you more likely to get infected with COVID-19, or get worse, as Twitter users claimed. Rather, he was saying historical evidence has shown the importance of safety testing any vaccine before releasing it on the market.

No, Dr. Fauci did not tell Mark Zuckerberg the COVID-19 vaccine would make people worse

In March 2020, Mark Zuckerberg sat down with Dr. Anthony Fauci to talk about the state of the pandemic. A clip from the chat is now being shared out of context.

www.wqad.com

So you're saying that everything Fauci said changes because the science changed since the vaccines came out?????
Seems to me they simply changed the science to suit their politics.

 

[ClaireH]

You have too choices. You can do nothing and hope you do not get sick or you get vaccination and hope you don't get sick. I for one would do the later, following the advice of the most prestigious organizations of medical scientists such as the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases, the American Society for Virology, the American Medical Association, Johns Hopkins University, Mayo Clinic, Kaiser Foundation Research Institute, Harvard University, National Institutes of Health, ect...

According to best available scientific evidence, full vaccination followed by a booster is very effective at preventing serious illness from either the Delta or Omicron variants. And no it is not true that a new vaccine is needed for each new variant. To achieve maximum efficacy a new vaccine for each variant would be ideal but very impractical.

No vaccine can keep you from getting infected but the vaccines can give you a high a degree of protection against becoming seriously ill.

“Doing nothing” is never an option In regards to keeping healthy. Dietary choices fuel our the body’s powerhouse (primarily the gut). It not only matters what you put in your body, but when. After nightly fasting, the first thing in the next morning matters greatly. I could go on and on but I’ll spare you since you didn’t ask for health advice. Well, considering this is a public forum I’ll go ahead and share just a few
Not only do dietary matter greatly (more than most know unfortunately for instance 60% of all Covid patients winding up in the hospital are deficient in vitamin D now there’s something that should be corrected easily for anyone living in United States anyway). We all know about consistent hand washing, and we now have access to new sanitary measures widely available. Kleenex has made a tissue that kills all corona and flu viruses within 15 minutes, and that’s a pretty amazing improvement for standard tissues. For 1000 bucks you can buy an air purifier that is guaranteed to kill all coronaviruses and flu viruses in the air. It was one cool invention made by a former HVAC tech whose dog got sprayed by a skunk and got into his house before he knew it and needed a way to get rid of the odor. There are many other ways to keep healthy without going the pharmaceutical route.

Anyway, to choose “do nothing” is never a good option.

 

[Flopper]

If the vaccines can do no better than non-vaccine treatments like Ivermectin, HCQ or monoclonal antibodies why are all these prestigious organizations of medical scientists completely silent on their use? Why would we not be using all the tools in the toolbox to defeat the China plague?

I didn't say vaccines were no better than non-vaccine treatment. I said vaccines can not prevent infection. That is true of all vaccines as well as nonvaccine treatment you refer to. They all require an initial infection. All vaccines against both viruses and bacteria work by training the immune system to recognize the pathogen so it can mount a rapid attack.

Also vaccines are not a treatment. They are a preventive. Antivirals are used to treat viruses.

 

[ClaireH]

I didn't say vaccines were no better than non-vaccine treatment. I said vaccines can not prevent infection. That is true of all vaccines as well as nonvaccine treatment you refer to. They all require an initial infection. All vaccines against both viruses and bacteria work by training the immune system to recognize the pathogen so it can mount a rapid attack.

Also vaccines are not a treatment. They are a preventive. Antivirals are used to treat viruses.

The current pre-purchased products are in need of customers, that’s the bottom line. Dark money has flown into both Dem and Rep congressional pockets and I’ll add a link for you about that very thing below. Teams of scientists are fully aware now that these are crap products compared to what’s going to be coming out before long and over two dozen are fervently working on better products.

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

Vaccine Makers Funneled Undisclosed Campaign Cash to Democrats and Republicans in 2020

The trade group for Pfizer and Moderna made large dark-money donations during the 2020 election, a new filing reveals.

theintercept.com

Make sure to read both links as they’re informative about things that aren’t so public.

 

[krichton]

Snopes is for dopes.

A bit late to the party but the article posted by the OP has already been debunked as fake nonsense. That's why he's no longer pushing it in his own thread

Millions have been injured, hundreds of thousands have died due to this injection. Ignoring that reality allows many to assuage their own denials.

Post all your statistics showing that hundreds of thousands have died from the vaccine. I'll wait.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Omicron resistant.

‘Striking’ vaccine resistance in Omicron variant: Columbia University

A new study out of Columbia University says the Omicron variant is “markedly resistant” to vaccines and boosters might not do much to help, spelling bad news for the country.

nypost.com

 

[idb]

Are you contending that the covd vaccines have been thoroughly tested for long-term adverse effects?
Do you also believe a time machine exists?

The only thing I'm contending is that the OP misrepresented what Fauci was saying.

 

[idb]

So you're saying that everything Fauci said changes because the science changed since the vaccines came out?????
Seems to me they simply changed the science to suit their politics.

Scientific advice changes as scientific knowledge changes.

 

[Flopper]

Our the FDA could stop picking winners and losers and allow the cheap drugs to be used at the first sign of infection and stop this dang nonsense.

They could have pushed for TRADITIONAL VACCINES over Experimental BS. Covaxin is one of those but is it allowed here. NOPE.

It's TAKE THIS OR ELSE..........because they are in the tank for Pharma and they pick the winners and losers of who sells the products.

The losers are the American people and the likes of Fau Chi..........who lied under oath about Gain of Function should be tried for crimes against humanity

When covid entered the US there were no drugs or vaccines known to be effective against covid. If you expect to prevent of treat a new virus, you have to developed vaccines and anti-vials that can specifically target that virus. You can't just pull one off the shelf because they don't exist.

Hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment for malaria which is caused by a parasite carried by mosquitos It is also used to treat Rheumatoid arthritis which is an inflation believed to be caused by an autoimmune disorder. Interferon is effective at killing parasite in the human body and in animals. Using medications such as these to prevent or treat a pathogen when that pathogen is not sensitive to it is a complete waste of time.

The antiviral remdesivir has been used to treat Covid, not because it was very effective but because it was only antiviral that had any effect at all on Covid. The new Pfizer and Merck drugs look very promising but they have been not approved.

 

[eagle1462010]

When covid entered the US there were no drugs or vaccines known to be effective against covid. If you expect to prevent of treat a new virus, you have to developed vaccines and anti-vials that can specifically target that virus. You can't just pull one off the shelf because they don't exist.

Hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment for malaria which is caused by a parasite carried by mosquitos It is also used to treat Rheumatoid arthritis which is an inflation believed to be caused by an autoimmune disorder. Interferon is effective at killing parasite in the human body and in animals. Using medications such as these to prevent or treat a pathogen when that pathogen is not sensitive to it is a complete waste of time.

The antiviral remdesivir has been used to treat Covid, not because it was very effective but because it was only antiviral that had any effect at all on Covid. The new Pfizer and Merck drugs look very promising but they have been not approved.

There were many studies on the older versions of SARs. Remdesivir was one of those for MERs. I posted studies early on on HCL and simple treatments that can make a world of difference.

India is so called third world. But they make our system look like a joke. Their web page and information is great. They Handed out medicines that are not approved here and say it turned the whole pandemic around for them.

We handled this plannedemic horribly.

 

[eagle1462010]

Drug repurposing of nitazoxanide: can it be an effective therapy for COVID-19? - PubMed

All these findings, along with the high safety record of the drug, have gained our interest to urge conductance of clinical trials to assess the potential benefits of using it in COVID-19 patients. Thus, in this summarized article, we review the antiviral activities of NTZ and highlight its...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The FDA-approved antiparasitic drug, nitazoxanide (NTZ), has been found to have antiviral activity against different viral infections such as coronaviruses, influenza, hepatitis C virus (HCV), hepatitis B virus (HBV), and other viruses signifying its potential as a broad spectrum antiviral drug. Moreover, it has been recently reported that NTZ exhibited in vitro inhibition of SARS-CoV-2 at a small micromolar concentration. Additionally, NTZ suppresses the production of cytokines emphasizing its potential to manage COVID-19-induced cytokine storm


The cytokine storm is what kills you.

 

[mudwhistle]

Scientific advice changes as scientific knowledge changes.

Horseshit. You believe his BS because you want to believe him.....even though you probably said the opposite when he was Trump's guy.
You'll believe anything they tell you because of who is telling you....and you won't believe a thing that the GOP tells you even if they show it to you word for word in highly accredited medical publications.

Fauci is a scam-artist.....and he's changing "The Science" without one shred of documented reliable research to support it.

 

[Flopper]

President Trump appointed Fauci.

When it became clear that American was facing a major epidemic due to a new virus, Fauci was a natural choice for Medical Advisor to the President. Fauci has been at the forefront of U.S. efforts to contend with viral diseases like HIV/AIDS, SARS, the Swine flu, MERS, Ebola, and now COVID-19. He was one of the few American doctors in Africa during the Ebola epidemic actually working with highly contagious patients. He also worked as advisor to several countries in epidemics.

 

[eagle1462010]

If our CDC was so good. Why don't we have as good a website as INDIA. Tons of information there and articles. Our nation sucked at Covid.........Go home if the oxygen gets low go to the hospital aka the damage is already being done at that point.

Indian Council of Medical Research, New Delhi

Official Website of ICMR New Delhi for COVID-19 Information

www.icmr.gov.in

 

[Flopper]

Drug repurposing of nitazoxanide: can it be an effective therapy for COVID-19? - PubMed

All these findings, along with the high safety record of the drug, have gained our interest to urge conductance of clinical trials to assess the potential benefits of using it in COVID-19 patients. Thus, in this summarized article, we review the antiviral activities of NTZ and highlight its...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The FDA-approved antiparasitic drug, nitazoxanide (NTZ), has been found to have antiviral activity against different viral infections such as coronaviruses, influenza, hepatitis C virus (HCV), hepatitis B virus (HBV), and other viruses signifying its potential as a broad spectrum antiviral drug. Moreover, it has been recently reported that NTZ exhibited in vitro inhibition of SARS-CoV-2 at a small micromolar concentration. Additionally, NTZ suppresses the production of cytokines emphasizing its potential to manage COVID-19-induced cytokine storm


The cytokine storm is what kills you.

An antivirus can stop the spread of a virus in the body by either preventing it from breaking into cells or interfering with replication. Antivirals have been successful at stopping replication. However, to do so effectively, the antiviral has to be specifically designed for the particular virus. The antiviral, Remdesivir was designed to work against SARS. It has been used against a number of viruses including Ebola and Covid with limited success. The new Pfzier antiviral is the first designed specifically to work with Covid and is reported to be very effective, however it has not been approved yet by the FDA.

 

[eagle1462010]

An antivirus can stop the spread of a virus in the body by either preventing it from breaking into cells or interfering with replication. Antivirals have been successful at stopping replication. However, to do so effectively, the antiviral has to be specifically designed for the particular virus. The antiviral, Remdesivir was designed to work against SARS. It has be used against a number viruses including Ebola and Covid with limited success. The new Pfzier antiviral is the first designed specifically to work with Covid and is reported to be very efficient, however it has not been approved yet.

And plenty of studies showed the cheap drugs worked. Key in all of them was EARLY TREATMENT. Once the storm hits you are screwed.

Table: Ivermectin Clinical Data | COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines

Review clinical data on the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19.

www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov

For and against it there. You will see that in Early treatment it was effective along with other cheap drugs.

But if the cheap drugs aren't permitted by the FDA then our people will not get them Early enough to change the outcome.

 

[Briss]

When it became clear that American was facing a major epidemic due to a new virus, Fauci was a natural choice for Medical Advisor to the President. Fauci has been at the forefront of U.S. efforts to . . .

What was tony's proactive approach to the treatment of people who got sick?

This all just reeks of Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[idb]

Horseshit. You believe his BS because you want to believe him.....even though you probably said the opposite when he was Trump's guy.
You'll believe anything they tell you because of who is telling you....and you won't believe a thing that the GOP tells you even if they show it to you word for word in highly accredited medical publications.

Fauci is a scam-artist.....and he's changing "The Science" without one shred of documented reliable research to support it.

Horseshit yourself.
I'm more inclined to believe a guy that has spent his life researching and working in the medical field than some anonymous youtubers or shouty tv talking heads.

 

[Flopper]

Are you contending that the covd vaccines have been thoroughly tested for long-term adverse effects?
Do you also believe a time machine exists?

Vaccines are not tested for long-term adverse effects for two reason. First being, in all the years the FDA has been approving vaccines which goes back about 100 years, there has never been an approved vaccine that is know to be linked to a long term adverse reaction. Second, no one has figured out a good way to do it. Since vaccine do not remain in the body for very long periods, less then 90 days for live attenuated vaccines to less than 2 weeks for the mRNA vaccines it can be nearly impossible to link a condition that occurs many years after he vaccine is gone from the body.