Don't look now...but the Patriots are PO'd!

[Oldstyle]

Anyone with a clue about the game of football will say that the Patriot's wins are tied to superior coaching, one of the best quarterbacks ever to play the game and an owner who doesn't meddle.

Perhaps but definitely cheating. Can you admit to the cheating? They did pay the price for cheating and they admitted it why can't you?

The penalty set forth in the CBA rules for altering equipment is a $5,000 fine. The Patriots paid a million plus a first round and a third round draft choice! While that by itself is absurd...what's REALLY crazy is that they were hit with that punishment for allegedly doing something that the NFL never proved they did! That's why Judge Berman ruled against the NFL!

They cheated and got caught. Also, a source would be nice when you spout rules.

You didn't know that the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000? I thought you paid attention to the trial, Phallics?

You know if you spent less time Googling naked Tom Brady pictures and more time paying attention to that big, wide world outside of your mom's basement...you'd probably know these kinds of things...just saying...

"the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000"

Source?

They paid the price for being successful! They're being hit with fines and loss of draft choices for doing things that other teams are also doing and in some cases doing more flagrant violations of rules and yet it's only the Patriots that are being punished like they are. Explain why that is? The Federal judge in New York looked at what the NFL was doing and said quite emphatically that it wasn't fair.

Oldstyle: "They paid the price for being" cheaters.

Cry much?

You have a habit of deliberately misquoting me, Phallics! It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?

Oldstyle: "It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?"

No I am not a Patriot or a fan of the cheaters.

No, you're such a band wagon fan that you won't admit who you root for. That's another thing that sleazy people do. If you're a real fan...you're a fan through good times and bad. Not you though, Phallics! Your team starts off the year badly and you start buying "generic".

 

[Oldstyle]

Patriots against the Cowboys next week. Can't wait. And then the fun REALLY starts because Tom Brady gets to say hello to the Colts. Just what you want to do when your defense sucks...make it personal with a team with one of the most potent offenses in the league.

The over - under on that game is probably going to be around 90 points and that isn't because the Colts are gonna score a lot!

 

[ChrisL]

Patriots against the Cowboys next week. Can't wait. And then the fun REALLY starts because Tom Brady gets to say hello to the Colts. Just what you want to do when your defense sucks...make it personal with a team with one of the most potent offenses in the league.

The over - under on that game is probably going to be around 90 points and that isn't because the Colts are gonna score a lot!

Yay! I can't wait!

 

[Alex.]

Perhaps but definitely cheating. Can you admit to the cheating? They did pay the price for cheating and they admitted it why can't you?

The penalty set forth in the CBA rules for altering equipment is a $5,000 fine. The Patriots paid a million plus a first round and a third round draft choice! While that by itself is absurd...what's REALLY crazy is that they were hit with that punishment for allegedly doing something that the NFL never proved they did! That's why Judge Berman ruled against the NFL!

They cheated and got caught. Also, a source would be nice when you spout rules.

You didn't know that the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000? I thought you paid attention to the trial, Phallics?

You know if you spent less time Googling naked Tom Brady pictures and more time paying attention to that big, wide world outside of your mom's basement...you'd probably know these kinds of things...just saying...

"the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000"

Source?

They paid the price for being successful! They're being hit with fines and loss of draft choices for doing things that other teams are also doing and in some cases doing more flagrant violations of rules and yet it's only the Patriots that are being punished like they are. Explain why that is? The Federal judge in New York looked at what the NFL was doing and said quite emphatically that it wasn't fair.

Oldstyle: "They paid the price for being" cheaters.

Cry much?

You have a habit of deliberately misquoting me, Phallics! It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?

Oldstyle: "It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?"

No I am not a Patriot or a fan of the cheaters.

No, you're such a band wagon fan that you won't admit who you root for. That's another thing that sleazy people do. If you're a real fan...you're a fan through good times and bad. Not you though, Phallics! Your team starts off the year badly and you start buying "generic".

Still cannot admit the truth about your heroes. Oh well, society needs people like you so we can point, laugh and tell our children to grow a set of their own because the heroes they may worship are human and fallible and they need to develop their own moral compass and a set of principals rather than sit in front of a television week after week and get their self esteem by how many points a man scores or how many wins he has.

 

[Oldstyle]

The penalty set forth in the CBA rules for altering equipment is a $5,000 fine. The Patriots paid a million plus a first round and a third round draft choice! While that by itself is absurd...what's REALLY crazy is that they were hit with that punishment for allegedly doing something that the NFL never proved they did! That's why Judge Berman ruled against the NFL!

They cheated and got caught. Also, a source would be nice when you spout rules.

You didn't know that the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000? I thought you paid attention to the trial, Phallics?

You know if you spent less time Googling naked Tom Brady pictures and more time paying attention to that big, wide world outside of your mom's basement...you'd probably know these kinds of things...just saying...

"the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000"

Source?

They paid the price for being successful! They're being hit with fines and loss of draft choices for doing things that other teams are also doing and in some cases doing more flagrant violations of rules and yet it's only the Patriots that are being punished like they are. Explain why that is? The Federal judge in New York looked at what the NFL was doing and said quite emphatically that it wasn't fair.

Oldstyle: "They paid the price for being" cheaters.

Cry much?

You have a habit of deliberately misquoting me, Phallics! It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?

Oldstyle: "It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?"

No I am not a Patriot or a fan of the cheaters.

No, you're such a band wagon fan that you won't admit who you root for. That's another thing that sleazy people do. If you're a real fan...you're a fan through good times and bad. Not you though, Phallics! Your team starts off the year badly and you start buying "generic".

Still cannot admit the truth about your heroes. Oh well, society needs people like you so we can point, laugh and tell our children to grow a set of their own because the heroes they may worship are human and fallible and they need to develop their own moral compass and a set of principals rather than sit in front of a television week after week and get their self esteem by how many points a man scores or how many wins he has.

The "truth" about Tom Brady? Society and the NFL need more people like Brady who succeeded even though they weren't first round draft picks! If you had any sense at all you'd use Tom Brady as an example to children that hard work and belief in yourself does pay off no matter what round you are picked!

But you won't do that because you're not a fan, Phallics...you're a "hater". You can't stand Tom Brady because he's everything you're not.

 

[Bonzi]

I'll give the Pats credit... they can take perfectly ordinary players and make them look good - either that or the know how to find "unseen" talent.... pretty amazing.

 

[Alex.]

They cheated and got caught. Also, a source would be nice when you spout rules.

You didn't know that the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000? I thought you paid attention to the trial, Phallics?

You know if you spent less time Googling naked Tom Brady pictures and more time paying attention to that big, wide world outside of your mom's basement...you'd probably know these kinds of things...just saying...

"the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000"

Source?

Oldstyle: "They paid the price for being" cheaters.

Cry much?

You have a habit of deliberately misquoting me, Phallics! It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?

Oldstyle: "It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?"

No I am not a Patriot or a fan of the cheaters.

No, you're such a band wagon fan that you won't admit who you root for. That's another thing that sleazy people do. If you're a real fan...you're a fan through good times and bad. Not you though, Phallics! Your team starts off the year badly and you start buying "generic".

Still cannot admit the truth about your heroes. Oh well, society needs people like you so we can point, laugh and tell our children to grow a set of their own because the heroes they may worship are human and fallible and they need to develop their own moral compass and a set of principals rather than sit in front of a television week after week and get their self esteem by how many points a man scores or how many wins he has.

The "truth" about Tom Brady? Society and the NFL need more people like Brady who succeeded even though they weren't first round draft picks! If you had any sense at all you'd use Tom Brady as an example to children that hard work and belief in yourself does pay off no matter what round you are picked!

But you won't do that because you're not a fan, Phallics...you're a "hater". You can't stand Tom Brady because he's everything you're not.

I do not hate the guy, unlike you who has stated you know how he thinks because you watch him, I find that based on his own statements he is dishonest. How could anyone respect that? The team as a whole has some excellent players but there have been instances of cheating and lying to gain an advantage over other teams and players. Any reasonable person must take that into account when assessing the team and players.

 

[Oldstyle]

You didn't know that the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000? I thought you paid attention to the trial, Phallics?

You know if you spent less time Googling naked Tom Brady pictures and more time paying attention to that big, wide world outside of your mom's basement...you'd probably know these kinds of things...just saying...

"the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000"

Source?

You have a habit of deliberately misquoting me, Phallics! It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?

Oldstyle: "It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?"

No I am not a Patriot or a fan of the cheaters.

No, you're such a band wagon fan that you won't admit who you root for. That's another thing that sleazy people do. If you're a real fan...you're a fan through good times and bad. Not you though, Phallics! Your team starts off the year badly and you start buying "generic".

Still cannot admit the truth about your heroes. Oh well, society needs people like you so we can point, laugh and tell our children to grow a set of their own because the heroes they may worship are human and fallible and they need to develop their own moral compass and a set of principals rather than sit in front of a television week after week and get their self esteem by how many points a man scores or how many wins he has.

The "truth" about Tom Brady? Society and the NFL need more people like Brady who succeeded even though they weren't first round draft picks! If you had any sense at all you'd use Tom Brady as an example to children that hard work and belief in yourself does pay off no matter what round you are picked!

But you won't do that because you're not a fan, Phallics...you're a "hater". You can't stand Tom Brady because he's everything you're not.

I do not hate the guy, unlike you who has stated you know how he thinks because you watch him, I find that based on his own statements he is dishonest. How could anyone respect that? The team as a whole has some excellent players but there have been instances of cheating and lying to gain an advantage over other teams and players. Any reasonable person must take that into account when assessing the team and players.

What statements? Tom Brady has told the same story since "Deflategate" began...that he liked his game balls as close to the lower limit of inflation as possible. He's also testified under oath that he had nothing to do with their being under inflated nor has he ever told anyone else to under inflate them. There were 12 Patriot game balls for that night against the Colts...11 were slightly under inflated...something which would have been the result of taking balls from a warm locker room out onto a cold and wet playing field. 1 ball was substantially under inflated...and that was the ball that the Colts had in their possession before turning it over to the officials and accusing the Patriots of cheating. A "reasonable person" would ask what possible advantage Tom Brady would gain from having one ball substantially under inflated when the officials were rotating the balls constantly to keep them dry? A "reasonable person" would wonder if perhaps the ball the Colts presented to the officials had been doctored BY the Colts and not the Patriots? How DOES one ball get that much more under inflated than all the others? The Colts defensive back who intercepted Brady's pass said he didn't notice anything different about the ball. The officials on the field didn't notice anything different about the ball. Yet when the Colt's coaching staff hand it over to the officials it's substantially under inflated? And before the Patriot haters start in with the "history" of the Patriots, might I remind you that the Colts are the team that was pumping in crowd noise at their stadium when opposing teams were on offense! Why are the Patriots assumed to be the ones cheating here? Because of Spy Gate eight years ago? The truth is...a "reasonable person" would have looked at the Colts as well as the Patriots. Did Ted Wells ever investigate the Colts? Did he ever ask Colt's coaches and players if THEY did anything to that under inflated game ball? Or did he ASSUME guilt on the part of the Patriots and work back from that conclusion?

 

[Oldstyle]

I'll give the Pats credit... they can take perfectly ordinary players and make them look good - either that or the know how to find "unseen" talent.... pretty amazing.

Bill Belichick's talent lies in his ability to game plan for his player's strengths. Over the years the Patriots have had totally different philosophies on offense and defense according to the personnel that Belichick has had to work with. When Randy Moss was on the team the offense was built around running the ball and throwing it over the top of the defense. Then it was Gronk and Hernandez at tight end and the offense was built around mismatches with them. Then it was Wes Welker and Julian Edelman in the slot that became a focus. Belichick adjusts to the rule changes in the NFL as well...he let Browner go to free agency this year because it's become obvious that the days of the big physical corner have come and gone because you're not allowed to beat up on receivers any more. So Belichick has gone with smaller, quicker corners and brought in a whole slew of defensive linemen to rush the passer. I watched Browner with New Orleans last night and he had several penalties called on him that are the result of the new rules. He's not the same player he once was BECAUSE of the rules changes.

Now compare all that with a coach like Rex Ryan! Ryan has HIS philosophy on how to play football. You run the ball down your opponent's throats. Your quarterback is a game manager. You win with a stout defense and shut down corners. That's Rex's system and he doesn't deviate from it. If you played for the Jets or now play for the Bills, you need to adapt to Rex because he's not going to adapt to you.

 

[Alex.]

"the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000"

Source?

Oldstyle: "It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?"

No I am not a Patriot or a fan of the cheaters.

No, you're such a band wagon fan that you won't admit who you root for. That's another thing that sleazy people do. If you're a real fan...you're a fan through good times and bad. Not you though, Phallics! Your team starts off the year badly and you start buying "generic".

Still cannot admit the truth about your heroes. Oh well, society needs people like you so we can point, laugh and tell our children to grow a set of their own because the heroes they may worship are human and fallible and they need to develop their own moral compass and a set of principals rather than sit in front of a television week after week and get their self esteem by how many points a man scores or how many wins he has.

The "truth" about Tom Brady? Society and the NFL need more people like Brady who succeeded even though they weren't first round draft picks! If you had any sense at all you'd use Tom Brady as an example to children that hard work and belief in yourself does pay off no matter what round you are picked!

But you won't do that because you're not a fan, Phallics...you're a "hater". You can't stand Tom Brady because he's everything you're not.

I do not hate the guy, unlike you who has stated you know how he thinks because you watch him, I find that based on his own statements he is dishonest. How could anyone respect that? The team as a whole has some excellent players but there have been instances of cheating and lying to gain an advantage over other teams and players. Any reasonable person must take that into account when assessing the team and players.

What statements? Tom Brady has told the same story since "Deflategate" began...that he liked his game balls as close to the lower limit of inflation as possible. He's also testified under oath that he had nothing to do with their being under inflated nor has he ever told anyone else to under inflate them. There were 12 Patriot game balls for that night against the Colts...11 were slightly under inflated...something which would have been the result of taking balls from a warm locker room out onto a cold and wet playing field. 1 ball was substantially under inflated...and that was the ball that the Colts had in their possession before turning it over to the officials and accusing the Patriots of cheating. A "reasonable person" would ask what possible advantage Tom Brady would gain from having one ball substantially under inflated when the officials were rotating the balls constantly to keep them dry? A "reasonable person" would wonder if perhaps the ball the Colts presented to the officials had been doctored BY the Colts and not the Patriots? How DOES one ball get that much more under inflated than all the others? The Colts defensive back who intercepted Brady's pass said he didn't notice anything different about the ball. The officials on the field didn't notice anything different about the ball. Yet when the Colt's coaching staff hand it over to the officials it's substantially under inflated? And before the Patriot haters start in with the "history" of the Patriots, might I remind you that the Colts are the team that was pumping in crowd noise at their stadium when opposing teams were on offense! Why are the Patriots assumed to be the ones cheating here? Because of Spy Gate eight years ago? The truth is...a "reasonable person" would have looked at the Colts as well as the Patriots. Did Ted Wells ever investigate the Colts? Did he ever ask Colt's coaches and players if THEY did anything to that under inflated game ball? Or did he ASSUME guilt on the part of the Patriots and work back from that conclusion?

A lot of typing for nothing to say. Make sure you wear the jersey next time you sit in the basement and watch the object of your man-love while imagining he is everything you think he is.

On personal note, the popcorn belongs in the mouth not in the stands. I sure you understand and will correct that in the future.

 

[Oldstyle]

No, you're such a band wagon fan that you won't admit who you root for. That's another thing that sleazy people do. If you're a real fan...you're a fan through good times and bad. Not you though, Phallics! Your team starts off the year badly and you start buying "generic".

Still cannot admit the truth about your heroes. Oh well, society needs people like you so we can point, laugh and tell our children to grow a set of their own because the heroes they may worship are human and fallible and they need to develop their own moral compass and a set of principals rather than sit in front of a television week after week and get their self esteem by how many points a man scores or how many wins he has.

The "truth" about Tom Brady? Society and the NFL need more people like Brady who succeeded even though they weren't first round draft picks! If you had any sense at all you'd use Tom Brady as an example to children that hard work and belief in yourself does pay off no matter what round you are picked!

But you won't do that because you're not a fan, Phallics...you're a "hater". You can't stand Tom Brady because he's everything you're not.

I do not hate the guy, unlike you who has stated you know how he thinks because you watch him, I find that based on his own statements he is dishonest. How could anyone respect that? The team as a whole has some excellent players but there have been instances of cheating and lying to gain an advantage over other teams and players. Any reasonable person must take that into account when assessing the team and players.

What statements? Tom Brady has told the same story since "Deflategate" began...that he liked his game balls as close to the lower limit of inflation as possible. He's also testified under oath that he had nothing to do with their being under inflated nor has he ever told anyone else to under inflate them. There were 12 Patriot game balls for that night against the Colts...11 were slightly under inflated...something which would have been the result of taking balls from a warm locker room out onto a cold and wet playing field. 1 ball was substantially under inflated...and that was the ball that the Colts had in their possession before turning it over to the officials and accusing the Patriots of cheating. A "reasonable person" would ask what possible advantage Tom Brady would gain from having one ball substantially under inflated when the officials were rotating the balls constantly to keep them dry? A "reasonable person" would wonder if perhaps the ball the Colts presented to the officials had been doctored BY the Colts and not the Patriots? How DOES one ball get that much more under inflated than all the others? The Colts defensive back who intercepted Brady's pass said he didn't notice anything different about the ball. The officials on the field didn't notice anything different about the ball. Yet when the Colt's coaching staff hand it over to the officials it's substantially under inflated? And before the Patriot haters start in with the "history" of the Patriots, might I remind you that the Colts are the team that was pumping in crowd noise at their stadium when opposing teams were on offense! Why are the Patriots assumed to be the ones cheating here? Because of Spy Gate eight years ago? The truth is...a "reasonable person" would have looked at the Colts as well as the Patriots. Did Ted Wells ever investigate the Colts? Did he ever ask Colt's coaches and players if THEY did anything to that under inflated game ball? Or did he ASSUME guilt on the part of the Patriots and work back from that conclusion?

A lot of typing for nothing to say. Make sure you wear the jersey next time you sit in the basement and watch the object of your man-love while imagining he is everything you think he is.

On personal note, the popcorn belongs in the mouth not in the stands. I sure you understand and will correct that in the future.

I live in Florida, Phallics...we don't have basements.

I notice you don't have a response to what I've posted. That's typical for you as well.

 

[Alex.]

Still cannot admit the truth about your heroes. Oh well, society needs people like you so we can point, laugh and tell our children to grow a set of their own because the heroes they may worship are human and fallible and they need to develop their own moral compass and a set of principals rather than sit in front of a television week after week and get their self esteem by how many points a man scores or how many wins he has.

The "truth" about Tom Brady? Society and the NFL need more people like Brady who succeeded even though they weren't first round draft picks! If you had any sense at all you'd use Tom Brady as an example to children that hard work and belief in yourself does pay off no matter what round you are picked!

But you won't do that because you're not a fan, Phallics...you're a "hater". You can't stand Tom Brady because he's everything you're not.

I do not hate the guy, unlike you who has stated you know how he thinks because you watch him, I find that based on his own statements he is dishonest. How could anyone respect that? The team as a whole has some excellent players but there have been instances of cheating and lying to gain an advantage over other teams and players. Any reasonable person must take that into account when assessing the team and players.

What statements? Tom Brady has told the same story since "Deflategate" began...that he liked his game balls as close to the lower limit of inflation as possible. He's also testified under oath that he had nothing to do with their being under inflated nor has he ever told anyone else to under inflate them. There were 12 Patriot game balls for that night against the Colts...11 were slightly under inflated...something which would have been the result of taking balls from a warm locker room out onto a cold and wet playing field. 1 ball was substantially under inflated...and that was the ball that the Colts had in their possession before turning it over to the officials and accusing the Patriots of cheating. A "reasonable person" would ask what possible advantage Tom Brady would gain from having one ball substantially under inflated when the officials were rotating the balls constantly to keep them dry? A "reasonable person" would wonder if perhaps the ball the Colts presented to the officials had been doctored BY the Colts and not the Patriots? How DOES one ball get that much more under inflated than all the others? The Colts defensive back who intercepted Brady's pass said he didn't notice anything different about the ball. The officials on the field didn't notice anything different about the ball. Yet when the Colt's coaching staff hand it over to the officials it's substantially under inflated? And before the Patriot haters start in with the "history" of the Patriots, might I remind you that the Colts are the team that was pumping in crowd noise at their stadium when opposing teams were on offense! Why are the Patriots assumed to be the ones cheating here? Because of Spy Gate eight years ago? The truth is...a "reasonable person" would have looked at the Colts as well as the Patriots. Did Ted Wells ever investigate the Colts? Did he ever ask Colt's coaches and players if THEY did anything to that under inflated game ball? Or did he ASSUME guilt on the part of the Patriots and work back from that conclusion?

A lot of typing for nothing to say. Make sure you wear the jersey next time you sit in the basement and watch the object of your man-love while imagining he is everything you think he is.

On personal note, the popcorn belongs in the mouth not in the stands. I sure you understand and will correct that in the future.

I live in Florida, Phallics...we don't have basements.

I notice you don't have a response to what I've posted. That's typical for you as well.

Try again I have been waiting for quite a while for you to give a serious answer to the posts regarding the Patriots allegations and penalties and whether you consider that is cheating. You answer with more unrelated questions and accusations that I post naked pictures of men. That "joint" has effected you in more ways than one.

 

[Oldstyle]

The "truth" about Tom Brady? Society and the NFL need more people like Brady who succeeded even though they weren't first round draft picks! If you had any sense at all you'd use Tom Brady as an example to children that hard work and belief in yourself does pay off no matter what round you are picked!

But you won't do that because you're not a fan, Phallics...you're a "hater". You can't stand Tom Brady because he's everything you're not.

I do not hate the guy, unlike you who has stated you know how he thinks because you watch him, I find that based on his own statements he is dishonest. How could anyone respect that? The team as a whole has some excellent players but there have been instances of cheating and lying to gain an advantage over other teams and players. Any reasonable person must take that into account when assessing the team and players.

What statements? Tom Brady has told the same story since "Deflategate" began...that he liked his game balls as close to the lower limit of inflation as possible. He's also testified under oath that he had nothing to do with their being under inflated nor has he ever told anyone else to under inflate them. There were 12 Patriot game balls for that night against the Colts...11 were slightly under inflated...something which would have been the result of taking balls from a warm locker room out onto a cold and wet playing field. 1 ball was substantially under inflated...and that was the ball that the Colts had in their possession before turning it over to the officials and accusing the Patriots of cheating. A "reasonable person" would ask what possible advantage Tom Brady would gain from having one ball substantially under inflated when the officials were rotating the balls constantly to keep them dry? A "reasonable person" would wonder if perhaps the ball the Colts presented to the officials had been doctored BY the Colts and not the Patriots? How DOES one ball get that much more under inflated than all the others? The Colts defensive back who intercepted Brady's pass said he didn't notice anything different about the ball. The officials on the field didn't notice anything different about the ball. Yet when the Colt's coaching staff hand it over to the officials it's substantially under inflated? And before the Patriot haters start in with the "history" of the Patriots, might I remind you that the Colts are the team that was pumping in crowd noise at their stadium when opposing teams were on offense! Why are the Patriots assumed to be the ones cheating here? Because of Spy Gate eight years ago? The truth is...a "reasonable person" would have looked at the Colts as well as the Patriots. Did Ted Wells ever investigate the Colts? Did he ever ask Colt's coaches and players if THEY did anything to that under inflated game ball? Or did he ASSUME guilt on the part of the Patriots and work back from that conclusion?

A lot of typing for nothing to say. Make sure you wear the jersey next time you sit in the basement and watch the object of your man-love while imagining he is everything you think he is.

On personal note, the popcorn belongs in the mouth not in the stands. I sure you understand and will correct that in the future.

I live in Florida, Phallics...we don't have basements.

I notice you don't have a response to what I've posted. That's typical for you as well.

Try again I have been waiting for quite a while for you to give a serious answer to the posts regarding the Patriots allegations and penalties and whether you consider that is cheating. You answer with more unrelated questions and accusations that I post naked pictures of men. That "joint" has effected you in more ways than one.

Seriously? When have I ever failed to answer a question of yours? You on the other hand NEVER answer mine! When I ask something you don't have a response to you post idiotic things like a guy in the stands dumping popcorn on himself. What does that have to do with my question as to whether Ted Wells ever investigated the Colts for possibly tampering with the Patriot's game ball? Why don't you have an answer to why the Bears weren't fined for heating game balls? Why don't you have an answer to why the Colts weren't fined for pumping in crowd noise?

You've done the same thing each time I've posed a question to you in this string. Instead of answering it...you post pictures of TS Eliot and elephant butts! Like THAT is somehow relevant to what's being discussed!

So show that you've got a little SUBSTANCE, Phallics! Right now you're no better than Fart Boy!

 

[Alex.]

I do not hate the guy, unlike you who has stated you know how he thinks because you watch him, I find that based on his own statements he is dishonest. How could anyone respect that? The team as a whole has some excellent players but there have been instances of cheating and lying to gain an advantage over other teams and players. Any reasonable person must take that into account when assessing the team and players.

What statements? Tom Brady has told the same story since "Deflategate" began...that he liked his game balls as close to the lower limit of inflation as possible. He's also testified under oath that he had nothing to do with their being under inflated nor has he ever told anyone else to under inflate them. There were 12 Patriot game balls for that night against the Colts...11 were slightly under inflated...something which would have been the result of taking balls from a warm locker room out onto a cold and wet playing field. 1 ball was substantially under inflated...and that was the ball that the Colts had in their possession before turning it over to the officials and accusing the Patriots of cheating. A "reasonable person" would ask what possible advantage Tom Brady would gain from having one ball substantially under inflated when the officials were rotating the balls constantly to keep them dry? A "reasonable person" would wonder if perhaps the ball the Colts presented to the officials had been doctored BY the Colts and not the Patriots? How DOES one ball get that much more under inflated than all the others? The Colts defensive back who intercepted Brady's pass said he didn't notice anything different about the ball. The officials on the field didn't notice anything different about the ball. Yet when the Colt's coaching staff hand it over to the officials it's substantially under inflated? And before the Patriot haters start in with the "history" of the Patriots, might I remind you that the Colts are the team that was pumping in crowd noise at their stadium when opposing teams were on offense! Why are the Patriots assumed to be the ones cheating here? Because of Spy Gate eight years ago? The truth is...a "reasonable person" would have looked at the Colts as well as the Patriots. Did Ted Wells ever investigate the Colts? Did he ever ask Colt's coaches and players if THEY did anything to that under inflated game ball? Or did he ASSUME guilt on the part of the Patriots and work back from that conclusion?

A lot of typing for nothing to say. Make sure you wear the jersey next time you sit in the basement and watch the object of your man-love while imagining he is everything you think he is.

On personal note, the popcorn belongs in the mouth not in the stands. I sure you understand and will correct that in the future.

I live in Florida, Phallics...we don't have basements.

I notice you don't have a response to what I've posted. That's typical for you as well.

Try again I have been waiting for quite a while for you to give a serious answer to the posts regarding the Patriots allegations and penalties and whether you consider that is cheating. You answer with more unrelated questions and accusations that I post naked pictures of men. That "joint" has effected you in more ways than one.

Seriously? When have I ever failed to answer a question of yours? You on the other hand NEVER answer mine! When I ask something you don't have a response to you post idiotic things like a guy in the stands dumping popcorn on himself. What does that have to do with my question as to whether Ted Wells ever investigated the Colts for possibly tampering with the Patriot's game ball? Why don't you have an answer to why the Bears weren't fined for heating game balls? Why don't you have an answer to why the Colts weren't fined for pumping in crowd noise?

You've done the same thing each time I've posed a question to you in this string. Instead of answering it...you post pictures of TS Eliot and elephant butts! Like THAT is somehow relevant to what's being discussed!

So show that you've got a little SUBSTANCE, Phallics! Right now you're no better than Fart Boy!

Oldstyle: "When have I ever failed to answer a question of yours?"

You have never directly answered wither the Patriots were fined for for breaking the rules such as Spygate where they gained an unfair advantage over other teams or players and is that cheating?

The pic or gif are to provide a lighthearted tone to an otherwise very serious topic. Sorry if you fail to see the humor but those who are reading this have been laughing this whole time , that would be the children's team I coach they think you are a hoot the way you get all butthurt and strike out afterward.

 

[Unkotare]

The penalty set forth in the CBA rules for altering equipment is a $5,000 fine. The Patriots paid a million plus a first round and a third round draft choice! While that by itself is absurd...what's REALLY crazy is that they were hit with that punishment for allegedly doing something that the NFL never proved they did! That's why Judge Berman ruled against the NFL!

They cheated and got caught. Also, a source would be nice when you spout rules.

You didn't know that the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000? I thought you paid attention to the trial, Phallics?

You know if you spent less time Googling naked Tom Brady pictures and more time paying attention to that big, wide world outside of your mom's basement...you'd probably know these kinds of things...just saying...

"the fine for altering equipment was supposed to be $5,000"

Source?

They paid the price for being successful! They're being hit with fines and loss of draft choices for doing things that other teams are also doing and in some cases doing more flagrant violations of rules and yet it's only the Patriots that are being punished like they are. Explain why that is? The Federal judge in New York looked at what the NFL was doing and said quite emphatically that it wasn't fair.

Oldstyle: "They paid the price for being" cheaters.

Cry much?

You have a habit of deliberately misquoting me, Phallics! It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?

Oldstyle: "It's the kind of thing sleazy people do. But that's pretty much who you are...isn't it?"

No I am not a Patriot or a fan of the cheaters.

No, you're such a band wagon fan that you won't admit who you root for. That's another thing that sleazy people do. If you're a real fan...you're a fan through good times and bad. Not you though, Phallics! Your team starts off the year badly and you start buying "generic".

Still cannot admit the truth about your heroes. Oh well, society needs people like you so we can point, laugh and tell our children to grow a set of their own because the heroes they may worship are human and fallible and they need to develop their own moral compass and a set of principals rather than sit in front of a television week after week and get their self esteem by how many points a man scores or how many wins he has.

Still can't admit the truth about yourself? Oh well, society needs hitler-obsessives like you to laugh at.

 

[Oldstyle]

What statements? Tom Brady has told the same story since "Deflategate" began...that he liked his game balls as close to the lower limit of inflation as possible. He's also testified under oath that he had nothing to do with their being under inflated nor has he ever told anyone else to under inflate them. There were 12 Patriot game balls for that night against the Colts...11 were slightly under inflated...something which would have been the result of taking balls from a warm locker room out onto a cold and wet playing field. 1 ball was substantially under inflated...and that was the ball that the Colts had in their possession before turning it over to the officials and accusing the Patriots of cheating. A "reasonable person" would ask what possible advantage Tom Brady would gain from having one ball substantially under inflated when the officials were rotating the balls constantly to keep them dry? A "reasonable person" would wonder if perhaps the ball the Colts presented to the officials had been doctored BY the Colts and not the Patriots? How DOES one ball get that much more under inflated than all the others? The Colts defensive back who intercepted Brady's pass said he didn't notice anything different about the ball. The officials on the field didn't notice anything different about the ball. Yet when the Colt's coaching staff hand it over to the officials it's substantially under inflated? And before the Patriot haters start in with the "history" of the Patriots, might I remind you that the Colts are the team that was pumping in crowd noise at their stadium when opposing teams were on offense! Why are the Patriots assumed to be the ones cheating here? Because of Spy Gate eight years ago? The truth is...a "reasonable person" would have looked at the Colts as well as the Patriots. Did Ted Wells ever investigate the Colts? Did he ever ask Colt's coaches and players if THEY did anything to that under inflated game ball? Or did he ASSUME guilt on the part of the Patriots and work back from that conclusion?

A lot of typing for nothing to say. Make sure you wear the jersey next time you sit in the basement and watch the object of your man-love while imagining he is everything you think he is.

On personal note, the popcorn belongs in the mouth not in the stands. I sure you understand and will correct that in the future.

I live in Florida, Phallics...we don't have basements.

I notice you don't have a response to what I've posted. That's typical for you as well.

Try again I have been waiting for quite a while for you to give a serious answer to the posts regarding the Patriots allegations and penalties and whether you consider that is cheating. You answer with more unrelated questions and accusations that I post naked pictures of men. That "joint" has effected you in more ways than one.

Seriously? When have I ever failed to answer a question of yours? You on the other hand NEVER answer mine! When I ask something you don't have a response to you post idiotic things like a guy in the stands dumping popcorn on himself. What does that have to do with my question as to whether Ted Wells ever investigated the Colts for possibly tampering with the Patriot's game ball? Why don't you have an answer to why the Bears weren't fined for heating game balls? Why don't you have an answer to why the Colts weren't fined for pumping in crowd noise?

You've done the same thing each time I've posed a question to you in this string. Instead of answering it...you post pictures of TS Eliot and elephant butts! Like THAT is somehow relevant to what's being discussed!

So show that you've got a little SUBSTANCE, Phallics! Right now you're no better than Fart Boy!

Oldstyle: "When have I ever failed to answer a question of yours?"

You have never directly answered wither the Patriots were fined for for breaking the rules such as Spygate where they gained an unfair advantage over other teams or players and is that cheating?

The pic or gif are to provide a lighthearted tone to an otherwise very serious topic. Sorry if you fail to see the humor but those who are reading this have been laughing this whole time , that would be the children's team I coach they think you are a hoot the way you get all butthurt and strike out afterward.

When did you ask me if the Patriots were fined for Spygate? That's about as simple a question to answer as there is! Of course they were. That cost Bill Belichick $500,000 if I recall correctly. As to whether the Patriots gained an unfair advantage? Since it's allowed to videotape an opponents sidelines but only from certain places...it's hard to see how that would be a big advantage. Since the Patriots went undefeated for the rest of that regular season AFTER Spygate it's almost laughable that someone would claim that it was the "illegal" videotaping that was giving them a big advantage over their opponents!

Now did you want to answer my questions about why the Bears were not fined for heating up balls being used in a game? Was that not an advantage over their opponents? Was that not cheating?

Did you want to answer why the Colts were not fined for pumping in crowd noise? Was that not an advantage over their opponents? Was that not cheating?

 

[Oldstyle]

As for the kids that you supposedly coach, Phallics? I don't think you know enough about the game to be a coach. Have one of your "kids" chime in on this string if they find my posts so amusing! I'd love to hear from the little rascals and since every kid over the age of four is on line these days there isn't a reason in the world that they shouldn't be able to join in our little discussion! I don't think they ever will though...because I don't think you are a coach and I don't think there are many parents out there that would put their kids in the care of someone who's as weird as you. Just saying...

 

[Alex.]

A lot of typing for nothing to say. Make sure you wear the jersey next time you sit in the basement and watch the object of your man-love while imagining he is everything you think he is.

On personal note, the popcorn belongs in the mouth not in the stands. I sure you understand and will correct that in the future.

I live in Florida, Phallics...we don't have basements.

I notice you don't have a response to what I've posted. That's typical for you as well.

Try again I have been waiting for quite a while for you to give a serious answer to the posts regarding the Patriots allegations and penalties and whether you consider that is cheating. You answer with more unrelated questions and accusations that I post naked pictures of men. That "joint" has effected you in more ways than one.

Seriously? When have I ever failed to answer a question of yours? You on the other hand NEVER answer mine! When I ask something you don't have a response to you post idiotic things like a guy in the stands dumping popcorn on himself. What does that have to do with my question as to whether Ted Wells ever investigated the Colts for possibly tampering with the Patriot's game ball? Why don't you have an answer to why the Bears weren't fined for heating game balls? Why don't you have an answer to why the Colts weren't fined for pumping in crowd noise?

You've done the same thing each time I've posed a question to you in this string. Instead of answering it...you post pictures of TS Eliot and elephant butts! Like THAT is somehow relevant to what's being discussed!

So show that you've got a little SUBSTANCE, Phallics! Right now you're no better than Fart Boy!

Oldstyle: "When have I ever failed to answer a question of yours?"

You have never directly answered wither the Patriots were fined for for breaking the rules such as Spygate where they gained an unfair advantage over other teams or players and is that cheating?

The pic or gif are to provide a lighthearted tone to an otherwise very serious topic. Sorry if you fail to see the humor but those who are reading this have been laughing this whole time , that would be the children's team I coach they think you are a hoot the way you get all butthurt and strike out afterward.

When did you ask me if the Patriots were fined for Spygate? That's about as simple a question to answer as there is! Of course they were. That cost Bill Belichick $500,000 if I recall correctly. As to whether the Patriots gained an unfair advantage? Since it's allowed to videotape an opponents sidelines but only from certain places...it's hard to see how that would be a big advantage. Since the Patriots went undefeated for the rest of that regular season AFTER Spygate it's almost laughable that someone would claim that it was the "illegal" videotaping that was giving them a big advantage over their opponents!

Now did you want to answer my questions about why the Bears were not fined for heating up balls being used in a game? Was that not an advantage over their opponents? Was that not cheating?

Did you want to answer why the Colts were not fined for pumping in crowd noise? Was that not an advantage over their opponents? Was that not cheating?

You bring in other teams for what reason this is a very direct question about your OP. In the end the Patriots were cheating and got caught.

 

[Alex.]

As for the kids that you supposedly coach, Phallics? I don't think you know enough about the game to be a coach. Have one of your "kids" chime in on this string if they find my posts so amusing! I'd love to hear from the little rascals and since every kid over the age of four is on line these days there isn't a reason in the world that they shouldn't be able to join in our little discussion! I don't think they ever will though...because I don't think you are a coach and I don't think there are many parents out there that would put their kids in the care of someone who's as weird as you. Just saying...

Oldstyle: "I don't think they ever will though...because I don't think you are a coach and I don't think there are many parents out there that would put their kids in the care of someone who's as weird as you. Just saying.."
^^^
LOL
Not a chance some of the material is ok to talk about other stuff I would not let them read.

 

[Oldstyle]

I live in Florida, Phallics...we don't have basements.

I notice you don't have a response to what I've posted. That's typical for you as well.

Try again I have been waiting for quite a while for you to give a serious answer to the posts regarding the Patriots allegations and penalties and whether you consider that is cheating. You answer with more unrelated questions and accusations that I post naked pictures of men. That "joint" has effected you in more ways than one.

Seriously? When have I ever failed to answer a question of yours? You on the other hand NEVER answer mine! When I ask something you don't have a response to you post idiotic things like a guy in the stands dumping popcorn on himself. What does that have to do with my question as to whether Ted Wells ever investigated the Colts for possibly tampering with the Patriot's game ball? Why don't you have an answer to why the Bears weren't fined for heating game balls? Why don't you have an answer to why the Colts weren't fined for pumping in crowd noise?

You've done the same thing each time I've posed a question to you in this string. Instead of answering it...you post pictures of TS Eliot and elephant butts! Like THAT is somehow relevant to what's being discussed!

So show that you've got a little SUBSTANCE, Phallics! Right now you're no better than Fart Boy!

Oldstyle: "When have I ever failed to answer a question of yours?"

You have never directly answered wither the Patriots were fined for for breaking the rules such as Spygate where they gained an unfair advantage over other teams or players and is that cheating?

The pic or gif are to provide a lighthearted tone to an otherwise very serious topic. Sorry if you fail to see the humor but those who are reading this have been laughing this whole time , that would be the children's team I coach they think you are a hoot the way you get all butthurt and strike out afterward.

When did you ask me if the Patriots were fined for Spygate? That's about as simple a question to answer as there is! Of course they were. That cost Bill Belichick $500,000 if I recall correctly. As to whether the Patriots gained an unfair advantage? Since it's allowed to videotape an opponents sidelines but only from certain places...it's hard to see how that would be a big advantage. Since the Patriots went undefeated for the rest of that regular season AFTER Spygate it's almost laughable that someone would claim that it was the "illegal" videotaping that was giving them a big advantage over their opponents!

Now did you want to answer my questions about why the Bears were not fined for heating up balls being used in a game? Was that not an advantage over their opponents? Was that not cheating?

Did you want to answer why the Colts were not fined for pumping in crowd noise? Was that not an advantage over their opponents? Was that not cheating?

You bring in other teams for what reason this is a very direct question about your OP. In the end the Patriots were cheating and got caught.

I bring in other teams because I'd like to hear an explanation from you as to why the Patriots having game balls slightly under inflated is "cheating" and deserving of million dollar fines and loss of first round draft picks yet when the Bears heat up game balls and the Colts pump in crowd noise they don't get a fine at all.

Now did you want to answer those questions? I answered yours...