DOJ Sues Texas In Voting Rights Lawsuit, Alleging Discrimination Against Black And Latino Voters

[Dana7360]

I hope the DOJ wins the case.

The gerrymandering has got to stop.

It's very wrong to disenfranchise voters.

DOJ sues Texas in voting rights lawsuit, alleging discrimination against Black and Latino voters

Attorney General Merrick Garland said the state's redistricting maps dilute the voting strength of Black and Latino residents.

news.yahoo.com

 

[Juicin]

I hope the DOJ wins the case.

The gerrymandering has got to stop.

It's very wrong to disenfranchise voters.

DOJ sues Texas in voting rights lawsuit, alleging discrimination against Black and Latino voters

Attorney General Merrick Garland said the state's redistricting maps dilute the voting strength of Black and Latino residents.

news.yahoo.com

There is no answer to gerrymandering Dana

There is no independent way to draw districts.

The only way to get rid of this problem is to move to a very complicated voting system that makes district drawing functionally irrelevant. Or move to a system that doesn't care about population like the Senate.

Democrats will never win this battle because you can't gerrymander large cities like you can populations spread out over suburbs and rural areas.

The whining about this is insufferable. Stop. Putting you in a district where you can vote as an equal is not disenfranchising you...lol

If you want to fix this within the system we have. The only way is to appeal to people outside major population centers.

 

[progressive hunter]

I hope the DOJ wins the case.

The gerrymandering has got to stop.

It's very wrong to disenfranchise voters.

DOJ sues Texas in voting rights lawsuit, alleging discrimination against Black and Latino voters

Attorney General Merrick Garland said the state's redistricting maps dilute the voting strength of Black and Latino residents.

news.yahoo.com

this would make the DOJ racist,,

 

[Harpy Eagle]

There is no answer to gerrymandering Dana

There is no independent way to draw districts.

Get an algorithm to do it, have the algorithm coded by a bi-partisan group of geeks.

 

[JWBooth]

The only reason, outside of the Valley that there are any black or hispanic districts is that they are drawn to guarantee them, but lets nor recognize it.

 

[Penelope]

There is no answer to gerrymandering Dana

There is no independent way to draw districts.

The only way to get rid of this problem is to move to a very complicated voting system that makes district drawing functionally irrelevant. Or move to a system that doesn't care about population like the Senate.

Democrats will never win this battle because you can't gerrymander large cities like you can populations spread out over suburbs and rural areas.

The whining about this is insufferable. Stop. Putting you in a district where you can vote as an equal is not disenfranchising you...lol

If you want to fix this within the system we have. The only way is to appeal to people outside major population centers.

I think we sure do away with districts , and everyone votes and they make virtual districts.

 

[Penelope]

this would make the DOJ racist,,

Quite the opposite.

 

[FA_Q2]

There is no answer to gerrymandering Dana

There is no independent way to draw districts.

The only way to get rid of this problem is to move to a very complicated voting system that makes district drawing functionally irrelevant. Or move to a system that doesn't care about population like the Senate.

Democrats will never win this battle because you can't gerrymander large cities like you can populations spread out over suburbs and rural areas.

The whining about this is insufferable. Stop. Putting you in a district where you can vote as an equal is not disenfranchising you...lol

If you want to fix this within the system we have. The only way is to appeal to people outside major population centers.

It is a myth that it cannot be solved.

Like the problems at the border, it is left unsolved not because it is impossible but because the power brokers DO NOT WANT it fixed. Jerrymandering confers a very, very very large amount of power to the political parties themselves. It allows them to not only influence which side gains seats in the legislative branch but even allows the targeting of specific seats. One of your own members not towing the line - eliminate their district entirely.

No one wants to solve it. The democrats do this shit just as much as the republicans, the real difference is only that the republicans have a larger control of local governance as the democrats seem to only be able to focus on national elections. Considering the core of the worldview, such is not really all that surprising. This leads to a lot of hemming and hawing from the left over the practice but they have no intentions of doing anything about it.

 

[Dana7360]

There is no answer to gerrymandering Dana

There is no independent way to draw districts.

The only way to get rid of this problem is to move to a very complicated voting system that makes district drawing functionally irrelevant. Or move to a system that doesn't care about population like the Senate.

Democrats will never win this battle because you can't gerrymander large cities like you can populations spread out over suburbs and rural areas.

The whining about this is insufferable. Stop. Putting you in a district where you can vote as an equal is not disenfranchising you...lol

If you want to fix this within the system we have. The only way is to appeal to people outside major population centers.

I couldn't get past the lie in the first sentence. Once I read a lie I stop reading. I no longer believe what the poster wrote.

As for your first sentence.

Weird. The people of Utah and Ohio passed laws to do exactly what you said there is no answer to.

Utah proposition to battle gerrymandering passes as final votes tallied

Proposition 4, the ballot initiative creating an independent redistricting commission as a stopgap against what's known as gerrymandering by lawmakers, won voter approval by less than 1 percentage point.

www.deseret.com

Ohio Voters Pass Gerrymandering Reform Measure

The Ohio plan had overwhelming bipartisan support in the state legislature when lawmakers approved it for the May ballot.

www.huffpost.com

Gerrymandering can and should stop.

There is an answer to it.

Take partisan politics out of it.

It's as simple as that.

 

[1srelluc]

I hope the DOJ wins the case.

The gerrymandering has got to stop.

It's very wrong to disenfranchise voters.

DOJ sues Texas in voting rights lawsuit, alleging discrimination against Black and Latino voters

Attorney General Merrick Garland said the state's redistricting maps dilute the voting strength of Black and Latino residents.

news.yahoo.com

Voting strength?

It would seem to me that their vote is their strength, not the color of their skin.

 

[iceberg]

I hope the DOJ wins the case.

The gerrymandering has got to stop.

It's very wrong to disenfranchise voters.

DOJ sues Texas in voting rights lawsuit, alleging discrimination against Black and Latino voters

Attorney General Merrick Garland said the state's redistricting maps dilute the voting strength of Black and Latino residents.

news.yahoo.com

the hypocrisy of the left is never ending.

first - THE FILIBUSTER IS KILLING DEMOCRACY! except they used it hundreds of times when trump was president to "save it"

now you try and float this turd - GERRYMANDERING MUST STOP - except when you do it.

Democrats Decry Gerrymandering While Using It To Gain Power

While Schumer is carrying on about Republicans, Democrats’ plans for New York and Oregon show they are part of the problem, not the solution.

thefederalist.com

Eric Holder and Democrats’ gerrymandering

When it comes to gerrymandering — the practice of representatives choosing their voters rather than voters choosing their representatives - there’s a lot of propaganda out there.

www.washingtontimes.com

The Democrats’ gerrymandering adventures

Democrats are working to gerrymander themselves into permanent control in Washington, D.C. Just this week, former President Barack Obama sent out an email announcing his new Redistricting U.

www.washingtontimes.com

Democrats plan to eliminate 5 republican seats by gerrymandering in NY

Lose 1 seat because people are leaving the state and come out 4 ahead. Democrats are immoral scumbags and Royal is an ignorant twit. https://nypost.com/2021/09/15/dems-look-to-cut-half-of-nys-gop-house-with-gerrymandering/

bwi.forums.rivals.com

how come it's ok when you do it but an act of horror when others do? the practice is either OK FOR ALL or NO ONE.

not this bullshit OK FOR US YOU BETTER NOT 2 year old mentality bullshit.

 

[FA_Q2]

the hypocrisy of the left is never ending.

first - THE FILIBUSTER IS KILLING DEMOCRACY! except they used it hundreds of times when trump was president to "save it"

now you try and float this turd - GERRYMANDERING MUST STOP - except when you do it.

Democrats Decry Gerrymandering While Using It To Gain Power

While Schumer is carrying on about Republicans, Democrats’ plans for New York and Oregon show they are part of the problem, not the solution.

thefederalist.com

Eric Holder and Democrats’ gerrymandering

When it comes to gerrymandering — the practice of representatives choosing their voters rather than voters choosing their representatives - there’s a lot of propaganda out there.

www.washingtontimes.com

The Democrats’ gerrymandering adventures

Democrats are working to gerrymander themselves into permanent control in Washington, D.C. Just this week, former President Barack Obama sent out an email announcing his new Redistricting U.

www.washingtontimes.com

Democrats plan to eliminate 5 republican seats by gerrymandering in NY

Lose 1 seat because people are leaving the state and come out 4 ahead. Democrats are immoral scumbags and Royal is an ignorant twit. https://nypost.com/2021/09/15/dems-look-to-cut-half-of-nys-gop-house-with-gerrymandering/

bwi.forums.rivals.com

how come it's ok when you do it but an act of horror when others do? the practice is either OK FOR ALL or NO ONE.

not this bullshit OK FOR US YOU BETTER NOT 2 year old mentality bullshit.

Okay.

It is not okay for anyone. Period.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

There is no independent way to draw districts.

There is, just not when politicians do it.

 

[iceberg]

Quite the opposite.

bullshit. they don't bug democrats doing it and gerrymandering has been going on for a very long time. for them to go after 1 group and ignore other groups doing the same is the very definition of discrimination.

 

[iceberg]

Okay.

It is not okay for anyone. Period.

then another method needs to be found to accomplish the reasons having to redistrict is necessary. come up with a way that would be unbiased and enforce it to both sides.

good luck.

 

[Juicin]

There is, just not when politicians do it.

Everyone's a politician when it comes to drawing districts buddy, lol

Inherently political act

 

[Juicin]

Get an algorithm to do it, have the algorithm coded by a bi-partisan group of geeks.

That would get political too and there would be winners and losers

Who decides if the algo is good or not?

These things would just make it more subtle, not solve the inherent problems

It's just too politically charged and important to ever be "independent". At any level

And besides a system like that would no doubt favor republicans because again democrats are more concentrated.

 

[Juicin]

I think we sure do away with districts , and everyone votes and they make virtual districts.

Yea, you have to do ranked choice or something where they may happen to have a district. But in reality they were elected by the whole state.

I don't favor these solutions but they are an actual solution. Not just some pie in the sky delusion about how our society works.

 

[Juicin]

It is a myth that it cannot be solved.

Like the problems at the border, it is left unsolved not because it is impossible but because the power brokers DO NOT WANT it fixed. Jerrymandering confers a very, very very large amount of power to the political parties themselves. It allows them to not only influence which side gains seats in the legislative branch but even allows the targeting of specific seats. One of your own members not towing the line - eliminate their district entirely.

No one wants to solve it. The democrats do this shit just as much as the republicans, the real difference is only that the republicans have a larger control of local governance as the democrats seem to only be able to focus on national elections. Considering the core of the worldview, such is not really all that surprising. This leads to a lot of hemming and hawing from the left over the practice but they have no intentions of doing anything about it.

I just gave you solutions. You can't solve it in the system we have. No

Would require a constitutional convention to change the way we run federal elections. States same thing need to move to a very complex voting system relative to what we have. That would solve gerrymandering.

There is no such thing as an "independent" process to draw districts every 10 years with a new census. More independent yes, independent, no

 

[Juicin]

I couldn't get past the lie in the first sentence. Once I read a lie I stop reading. I no longer believe what the poster wrote.

As for your first sentence.

Weird. The people of Utah and Ohio passed laws to do exactly what you said there is no answer to.

Utah proposition to battle gerrymandering passes as final votes tallied

Proposition 4, the ballot initiative creating an independent redistricting commission as a stopgap against what's known as gerrymandering by lawmakers, won voter approval by less than 1 percentage point.

www.deseret.com

Ohio Voters Pass Gerrymandering Reform Measure

The Ohio plan had overwhelming bipartisan support in the state legislature when lawmakers approved it for the May ballot.

www.huffpost.com

Gerrymandering can and should stop.

There is an answer to it.

Take partisan politics out of it.

It's as simple as that.

You can continue to live in delusion dana

just shut the fuck up about it

ask penelope if you don't want to hear it from me. "independent" political district drawing is a borderline oxymoron.

No one with sense could see this system and think it is ever going to end in democrats favor without throwing it out. THe maps will never give you an advantage even if it was "independent"

YOU LIVE IN MAJOR CITIES THAT'S HOW THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED. YOU'RE MEANT TO BE FUCKED