Doge reduced warning and response time for the Texas flood.

YOU BETTER READ THE RESPONSE QUICKLY BEFORE USMB "MODERATORS" FIND THAT THESE METEOROLOGICAL FACTS ARE INCONVENIENT :

ACCORDING TO CBS NEWS
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Heavy rains from the remnant moisture from what was formerly Tropical Storm Barry fell quickly in the predawn hours of Friday in the Texas Hill Country, causing the Gaudalupe River, outside of San Antonio, to rise 26 feet in just 45 minutes.

The floods grew to their worst at the midpoint of a long holiday weekend when many people were asleep.

WHAT THE **** COULD HAVE FEMA OR THE WEATHER SERVICE DONE TO PREVENT THE DISASTER ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Just like in LA, a perfect storm.
 
And once again, we see liberals use disaster and death as a political ploy.
Pathetic
It is being called a "1000 year event" - there is no record of this kind of flooding and river rise this fast. NONE.
No one predicted this. Not local, not state nor federal. Because there is no record of it happening before.

But as usual - the left hatred consumes them and they blame it on anyone not in their religion.
Its amazing how the right can never see the shit they do. It is time the lying stopped.
 
You go tell them your thread claiming it was Trump's fault is a lie.

As proved by your own posted support article.
The people at the local office of the Weather Service that were responsible for coordination with local officials on emergency warnings and response were not present because Trump and Musk had fired them. Yes, the lack of adequate warning is Trump's fault. However, the fact that there was no in place warning system monitoring that river, which was known to flood rapidly in a hard rain storm, was the local authorities fault. The fact that they allowed those children's camps to be in a known flood zone was the local authorities fault. The local authorities need to address their portion of fault to prevent a reoccurrence of this tragedy. Congress needs to address the neutering of our Weather Service to prevent further tragedies in other states. One immediate concern is the loss of data from our military satellites that monitor hurricanes at night. The satellites are still there and still monitoring the oceans, but someone, (Hegseth?), made a decision not to share the data with the Weather Service. Given what we have seen of the very rapid intensification of hurricanes in the last five years, that decision may cost lives.
 
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Trump cutting the NWS because he spent all the budget on tax cuts for the wealthy is worth children's lives? Maybe that's your opinion but not mine.
So you think Trump only cut the important parts of NWS but didn't cut any of the waste? What do you base that opinion on, Gator? Your loathing of Trump? Or facts? I suppose you're one of those people who don't believe that there is waste and fraud in our Federal Government and no cuts are necessary? I suppose that's based on your loathing of Trump as well since it's obviously not based on reality? Anyone who's dealt with the Federal Government KNOWS that it's rife with waste and fraud...yet every time someone has enough back bone to take on the task of cleaning it up...you on the left immediately accuse them of wanting to push Grandma off the cliff! It's getting rather ridiculous.
 
Trump cutting the NWS because he spent all the budget on tax cuts for the wealthy is worth children's lives? Maybe that's your opinion but not mine.
You don't have a problem with the left spending huge portions of their budgets on caring for illegal aliens, leading to cuts in services across the board for American citizens but you're up in arms because you think giving tax cuts to everyone...something that will spur the economy on so that blue collar workers get the extra income to buy their kids things they need is unthinkable?
 
The people at the local office of the Weather Service that were responsible for coordination with local officials on emergency warnings and response were not present because Trump and Musk had fired them. Yes, the lack of adequate warning is Trump's fault. However, the fact that there was no in place warning system monitoring that river, which was known to flood rapidly in a hard rain storm, was the local authorities fault. The fact that they allowed those children's camps to be in a known flood zone was the local authorities fault. The local authorities need to address their portion of fault to prevent a reoccurrence of this tragedy. Congress needs to address the neutering of our Weather Service to prevent further tragedies in other states. One immediate concern is the loss of data from our military satellites that monitor hurricanes at night. The satellites are still there and still monitoring the oceans, but someone, (Hegseth?), made a decision not to share the data with the Weather Service. Given what we have seen of the very rapid intensification of hurricanes in the last five years, that decision may cost lives.
However, everything you just claimed are all lies.

Back your claims with verified facts from NWS.
 
Trump is not responsible for the flood, however he is responsible for reducing the efficiency and effectiveness of those charged with warning of the event, and response after the event.
Aaaannnndddd that's a lie.https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/07/07/the-texas-flooding-tragedy-could-it-have-been-avoided/
 
The people at the local office of the Weather Service that were responsible for coordination with local officials on emergency warnings and response were not present because Trump and Musk had fired them.
PURE UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT

National Weather Service (NWS) Austin/San Antonio:



The NWS office responsible for that region had five staffers on duty as thunderstorms formed over Texas Thursday evening, >>>>>>>>>>>the usual number for an overnight shift when severe weather is expected.<<<<<<<<<<<< Current and former NWS officials defended the agency, pointing to urgent flash flood warnings issued in the pre-dawn hours before the river rose.

“This was an exceptional service to come out first with the catastrophic flash flood warning and this shows the awareness of the meteorologists on shift at the NWS office,” said Brian LaMarre, who retired at the end of April as the meteorologist-in-charge of the NWS forecast office in Tampa, Florida. ″There is always the challenge of pinpointing extreme values, however, the fact the catastrophic warning was issued first showed the level of urgency."




AS AN RVer, I have programmed my cells phones to notify me about weather alerts

South Carolina has an excellent weather alert system known as CODERed Alerts

Texas should do the same
 
I don't usually read Fox News, what's the point? But I thought, what's their response to the floods in Texas?

Would they be doing everything the could to control the narrative in favor of Trump and Abbott or would it be trying to be objective?

Well, sees like it's the former. Let's look


"DHS says mainstream media is 'deliberately lying' about events leading up to Texas flooding"

Ah, so the "mainstream media" (clearly doesn't include Fox "News" in this) is "lying" because.... they're not following the official narrative.

There's a tweet, or whatever they're called these days, from Homeland Security.

"The mainstream media is deliberately lying about the events leading up to the catastrophic flooding in Texas. The National Weather Service executed timely, precise forecasting and warnings, despite unprecedented rainfall overwhelming the region. Here is the timeline of NWS’s proactive response:"

In the text below this on Fox "News" it says:

""The National Weather Service executed timely, precise forecasting and warnings, despite unprecedented rainfall overwhelming the region," it continued."

Now, the issue here isn't whether the NWS issued timely, precise forecasting and warnings, it's whether ANYTHING WAS DONE WITH THESE WARNINGS. Obviously Fox "News" doesn't mention this.

Then they have "Mississippi governor prays ", yeah, that'll solve the problem.

Then a thing about Tim Walz saying he'll offer assistance.

Then you have "Alabama governor prays ", which I assume won't help either.

You also have "White House Faith Office prays"

They have a quote from Trump: "“And it's a horrible thing that took place. Absolutely horrible. So we say, God bless all of the people that have gone through so much, and God bless the state of Texas. This incredible place,” he continued."

Basically saying that Mr "I do the best floods in history" God should bless all the people.... I'm sure that'll help too.

Then you have "Former presidents share prayers"

I can basically find NOTHING that talks about what went wrong in the first place. It's just talking about God and prayer and criticizing the left wing for talking about what went wrong in the first place.

I wonder why Fox "News" doesn't want to report about what went wrong in the first place.
You weren't paying attention. I tuned into Fox for only a few minutes and I clearly heard mention of the limited cell phone communications in the area and more could have been done and more will be done. You just won't be happy until you can lay all the blame at Trump's feet. How about a little compassion for those grieving parents whose lives will never be the same. Or maybe you think they deserved it because they must be MAGA.
 

Dems try blaming Trump for Texas flood death toll

but weather-alert timeline and even experts critical of prez debunk claims

7 Jul 2025 ~~ By Chris Nesi

The finger-pointing has already begun after the Texas floods, with some Dems blaming Trump budget cuts aimed at the National Weather Service for the catastrophic death toll — yet even experts who are administration critics saying they weren’t a factor.
Foes of President Trump are claiming budget cuts by the White House hampered the federal weather agency’s ability to issue life-saving warnings in time.
But reviews by experts, the NWS’ own timeline of the steadily escalating warnings the federal agency issued before the flooding disaster hit — and the fact that the budget cuts aren’t supposed to take effect until Oct. 1 — have debunked the assertion.
More than 100 people have been officially confirmed to have died in the flash flooding in Texas Hill Country, which saw the Guadalupe River rise more than 26 feet in just 45 minutes after a freak summer rainstorm.
~Snip~
enate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) echoed his colleague’s sentiment, demanding an investigation into whether “staffing shortages” at the agency resulted in a higher death toll in a letter to Acting Inspector General Roderick Anderson.
The White House shot back that any such claims that agency cuts initiated by the Department of Government Efficiency — which aren’t slated to take effect until Oct. 1, were “disgusting.”
On the morning of July 3, NWS Austin/San Antonio held briefings with emergency management officials during which discussions were had about imminent flash flooding risks. That same morning, the National Water Center issued a Flood Hazard Outlook, flagging Kerrville and surrounding areas as potentially under threat for flash flooding.
The first flood watch was issued by NWS Austin/San Antonio at 1:18 p.m. CT on Thursday, July 3, to remain in effect in Kerr County through Friday morning.
~Snip~
CBS Austin Meteorologist Avery Tomasco wrote on X, “All I’ll say is this.
“The National Weather Service issued a flood watch for Kerr County more than 12 hours ahead of the catastrophic flood. A flash flood warning was issued for Hunt & Ingram 3 HOURS before the Guadalupe started to climb. They did their job and they did it well.”
As for claims running rampant online that staffing cuts impacted NWS’ ability to put out timely warnings, Tom Fahy, legislative director for the National Weather Service, told NBC News that wasn’t the case.
“The WFOs [weather forecasting offices] had adequate staffing and resources as they issued timely forecasts and warnings leading up to the storm,” he said.


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The fact that kids were still missing and the dead unburied as DSA Marxist Democrats hurried to cast blame is what disturbed me most. Many X posts saying Texas and her voters deserved it. They are less than scum.
Schumer and his fellow travelers purposely disregard facts, focusing instead on attacking Trump and trying to make him look bad regardless of the truth. The Democrats depend on emotions, fear mongering and lies rather than facts, which are seldom in their favor.
Natural catastrophes especially flashfloods happen without warning... That’s why they're called ‘flashfloods’... If you knew about it before hand... It would be called is a ‘flood’. Period!
The following the A.I. response to the History of flash flooding of the Guadalupe River.
The Guadalupe River in Texas has a long history of devastating flash floods, particularly in the Texas Hill Country, often referred to as "Flash Flood Alley." Major flooding events have occurred nearly every decade, with notable tragedies including the 1987 flood that killed 10 campers and the recent floods in July 2025 that resulted in numerous fatalities and extensive damage.​

Overview of Flash Flooding in the Guadalupe River​

The Guadalupe River in Texas has a long history of devastating flash floods, particularly in the Texas Hill Country, an area often referred to as "Flash Flood Alley." This region is known for its steep terrain, shallow soil, and high rainfall, making it highly susceptible to rapid flooding events.​

Major Flood Events​

Notable Floods​

July 1978​
Tropical Storm Amelia caused severe flooding, resulting in 33 deaths across several counties.​
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July 1987​
A flash flood during a youth camp evacuation led to 10 fatalities when a wall of water surged.​
10​
July 2002​
Kerrville recorded 19 inches of rain, leading to significant flooding and widespread damage.​
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July 4, 2025​
Recent flooding resulted in at least 13 deaths, highlighting the ongoing risk in the region.​
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Contributing Factors
  • Geography: The region's rocky topography and floodplain between hills funnel rainwater into rivers quickly.​
  • Soil Type: Clay-rich soil does not absorb water well, leading to high runoff during intense rainfall.​
  • Weather Patterns: The convergence of moist air from the Gulf and Pacific Oceans often results in extreme rainfall.​

Historical Context

The Guadalupe River has experienced major floods nearly every decade for the past century. River streamflow records indicate that significant flooding events have been common, with the region leading the nation in flood-related fatalities. The combination of natural geography and weather patterns continues to pose a serious risk to communities along the river.
 
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Leftists seem to believe weather prediction is perform manually and data are entered using pen and pencil. Because Trump cut some staff members, more people will die if natural disaster is their argument. Leftists won't say prediction and simulation are performed by AI or supercomputer running simulation.
 
Leftists seem to believe weather prediction is perform manually and data are entered using pen and pencil. Because Trump cut some staff members, more people will die if natural disaster is their argument. Leftists won't say prediction and simulation are performed by AI or supercomputer running simulation.
Actually, those cuts don't become effective until Oct 1, 2025..
 
Just like in LA, a perfect storm.
A rural area in a potential flood plain that had a once in a century flood as compared to a city that has these wildfires on a consistent basis. And that storm came from Mexico. Mexico is not practicing green energy policies. It's their fault.
 
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Mother Nature/God?
Leftists didn't blame Newsom for the massive fire in Santa Ana. They also didn't blame the leftist governor of HI and the leftist mayor of Maui for allowing the island to burn.
 
You're an asshole for turning a natural disaster into a political attack, Frigid!
**** you, you're an asshole for being the sort that say "it's better that kids die, than we have to pay to keep them safe".

Always the same, any time a disaster happens, we shouldn't talk about it. Just pray to the dude who had the biggest flood in fictional history. I know the tactic you're using, try and get those who give a different narrative to yours to shut up. Pretend it's disrespectful or something.

Well, I see life about the living. I see that the NEXT TIME this happens you'll do the same, and there will be a next time, because nobody will deal with it.

When they had the chance to have an early warning system, nobody want to pay for it, and still nobody wants to pay for it. I guess that's why people live in Texas, because they don't want to pay for things. Then when kids die, they can feel good about themselves by praying.
 
The best I can find is intimations the personal links between the weather service and community emergency response no longer exist.

Yeah, it seemed NOBODY made any calls.
 
In September 2024, Hurricane Helene caused massive flooding in North Carolina with an even higher death toll than this storm (107 deaths versus 81 in Texas). Where was the outrage then?

I'm seeing much speculation that these cuts resulted in the large death toll in Texas but I'm not seeing any solid links or evidence that this was the case. And even before any NOAA or NWS staff cuts, the death toll was higher in North Carolina anyway.

I also see a lot of doubt and criticism over the timing of issued warnings in this case but warnings were issued. Were they timely enough? Maybe, maybe not. But in North Carolina a tropical storm warning was issued and the governor declared a state of emergency two days before the storm hit. Yet they had a higher death toll.

Given the relatively similar results of these two tragedies in spite of the fact that North Carolina had earlier warnings, can we honestly and objectively claim that staff cuts and lack of an early warning system contributed to the death toll in this case?

The difference here was probably that a hurricane is well known about in advance. People knew it was coming. This flood in Texas, it was a case of the warning happening and then things needed to be done in a short time to let people know that something was happening. This is where that failure was.

In North Carolina, I'd say one issue is the upkeep of dams. In Helene there was a dam that could have collapsed. Yesterday there was a warning about a damn about to collapse too. They get big storms, dams need to be sorted out before the event, but penny pinching is a problem.
 

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