Doge reduced warning and response time for the Texas flood.

[frigidweirdo]

Is Biden responsible for the deaths of flood victims in North Carolina during Helene?

Not sure I've blamed Trump here at all. Not sure I've even spoken about Trump. As far as I can tell this is a local issue, at state level at most.

 

[Man With A Plan]

**** you, you're an asshole for being the sort that say "it's better that kids die, than we have to pay to keep them safe".

Always the same, any time a disaster happens, we shouldn't talk about it. Just pray to the dude who had the biggest flood in fictional history. I know the tactic you're using, try and get those who give a different narrative to yours to shut up. Pretend it's disrespectful or something.

Well, I see life about the living. I see that the NEXT TIME this happens you'll do the same, and there will be a next time, because nobody will deal with it.

When they had the chance to have an early warning system, nobody want to pay for it, and still nobody wants to pay for it. I guess that's why people live in Texas, because they don't want to pay for things. Then when kids die, they can feel good about themselves by praying.

Hate to break this to you, Frigid but I'm an Agnostic. I don't pray.

You are the asshole because you don't REALLY care about kids...you just use them as "human shields" to hide behind when your liberal policies don't work and people demand change! You could care less about the kids who were killed in Texas. You see the whole tragedy as a political talking point...claiming cuts to a bloated Federal Government caused kids to be killed which is utter and complete BULLSHIT! That makes you an ASSHOLE of monumental proportions!

 

[frigidweirdo]

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In the case of the recent tragic flooding in Texas. Please note the following since you claim you're so astute in research..
The Guadalupe River area, particularly in the Texas Hill Country, is highly prone to flash flooding. This region has experienced some of the most devastating floods in Texas history, with significant events occurring in July.

Notable Flood Events​

1978	Tropical Storm Amelia caused severe flooding, resulting in 8 deaths.	One of the worst floods in Texas history.
1987	Up to 15 inches of rain fell, leading to 10 fatalities during a youth camp evacuation.	Deadliest weather event in Guadalupe history.
2002	Kerrville recorded 19 inches of rain, causing extensive flooding.	Significant damage across multiple counties.
2025	Recent floods resulted in at least 12 deaths in the Austin region due to heavy rains.	Ongoing rescue efforts and road closures.

Yep, noted this, spoken about this already. If you have an area that is prone to flooding, and prone to flash floods, you need a system of communication to keep people safe. When weather warnings happen, you need to take note.

 

[Rambunctious]

Doge taking a chain saw to our weather monitoring and warning systems and to FEMA has made the tragedy of the Texas flood even worse than it had to be. Those agencies were in place for a reason, and should have never been degraded by someone who didn't even understand why we need those agencies.


Yes, it's quite possible that victims of the recent Texas flood could have received earlier or more effective warnings if not for cuts and policy shifts tied to the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and former President Donald Trump's administration.


What Happened in Texas?


On July 4, 2025, catastrophic flash flooding struck areas along the Guadalupe River, leading to fatalities and widespread emergency rescues. Local authorities issued urgent warnings, but the scale and speed of the flooding overwhelmed many systems.


How DOGE and Trump’s Policies May Have Affected This


According to investigative reporting from the Texas Observer and San Antonio Current, the Trump administration’s DOGE initiative significantly impacted federal disaster preparedness and response:

• FEMA Cuts: DOGE slashed FEMA’s workforce by about 20% and froze parts of its funding.
• Disaster Aid Shift: Trump announced plans to phase out FEMA and shift disaster response responsibilities to individual states, arguing governors should handle emergencies independently.
• Climate Risk Data Degradation: DOGE reportedly dismantled or degraded federal resources that track and model climate-augmented weather risks, such as flood forecasting and early warning systems.
• Infrastructure Investment Delays: Federal support for flood prevention projects—like levees and drainage upgrades—was reduced or delayed, leaving vulnerable areas more exposed.

Could Earlier Warnings Have Been Possible?


While local agencies like the Harris County Flood Control District did issue warnings, the broader federal infrastructure that supports early detection, modeling, and communication of extreme weather risks may have been weakened. This could have:

• Reduced the lead time for warnings
• Limited the accuracy of flood forecasts
• Slowed coordination between federal and local responders

So while it's speculative to say definitively that lives would have been saved, the evidence strongly suggests that federal cuts and policy shifts under DOGE and Trump made Texas—and its residents—more vulnerable to disasters like this one.

Trump’s DOGE Cuts Are a Texas-Sized Disaster

Reckless agency layoffs and the dismantling of federal relief programs could leave the Lone Star State in peril.

go.skimresources.com

AP... not a right wing news site... says you are full of shit... in fact staff was increased before the storm.... and DOGE had no effect on the weather alert system...

 

[frigidweirdo]

You weren't paying attention. I tuned into Fox for only a few minutes and I clearly heard mention of the limited cell phone communications in the area and more could have been done and more will be done. You just won't be happy until you can lay all the blame at Trump's feet. How about a little compassion for those grieving parents whose lives will never be the same. Or maybe you think they deserved it because they must be MAGA.

Well, I went through their website and found nothing. You heard mention of something.... and how much of their coverage did that take up? Certainly they seemed to be putting more effort into talking about God than they did about what could be done to stop this happening again.

Looking at it now, I see a GOP member of the House's granddaughters were there, survived, but a cousin of these kids died.

A Democrat attacks Trump for his new bill that may make such events worse in the future.

Nothing else there about what could have been done.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Hate to break this to you, Frigid but I'm an Agnostic. I don't pray.

You are the asshole because you don't REALLY care about kids...you just use them as "human shields" to hide behind when your liberal policies don't work and people demand change! You could care less about the kids who were killed in Texas. You see the whole tragedy as a political talking point...claiming cuts to a bloated Federal Government caused kids to be killed which is utter and complete BULLSHIT! That makes you an ASSHOLE of monumental proportions!

Nope. I follow soccer. A player called Diogo Jota died the other day, he played for Liverpool, one of the biggest clubs in the world.

I've been criticizing him because either he or his brother was driving super fast when the tire of their expensive sports car exploded and they both died.

I get the same response as I'm getting from you. "Don't talk about the reasons why this happened".

You can try and attack me all you like, claiming I don't care about kids.

Okay, so where did I say federal cuts caused these kids to be killed? Literally I think the last post before this one was the first time I spoke about that, and that was because that popped up on the Fox "News" page.

A lot of what I've been talking about has been a a local level and a state level.

But you attack me pretending I'm saying the same as everyone else.

 

[HikerGuy83]

MSN

Democrats from all backgrounds began blaming President Donald Trump over the weekend for the recent Texas floods, citing budgetary cuts that haven't even gone into effect yet.

Even progressive Democrat and former State Senator Nina Turner had to point out that the financial cuts liberals are slamming, have not yet been implemented.

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Yeah....not political at all.

 

[Nostra]

The National Weather Service (NWS) offices involved in forecasting the recent catastrophic Texas floods were not fully staffed, and this has become a point of serious concern and debate.

Key vacancies existed in the NWS offices closest to the flooding, including the Austin/San Antonio office, which was missing a Warning Coordination Meteorologist—a critical role for communicating with emergency managers.

The NWS office responsible for Kerr County, where most fatalities occurred, had six of 27 positions vacant, including leadership roles essential for coordination.

There was extra NWS staff there for the storm, stupid.

 

[HikerGuy83]

And there it is. You will make excuses for anything that might not show trump as perfect.

What excuses.

You are the one making all the insunuations.

We are simply (as usual) telling you where you are wrong.

Stop lying.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Your problem is this flood had absolutely nothing to do with Trump or His cuts.........as endlessly reported with facts in this thread.

You just can't let it go.

And he won't. It's how he rolls.

In dog crap.

 

[IM2]

You're wrong.

 

[Nostra]

Can't get over how people like BULLDOG are willing to politicize deaths to make themselves feel justified in their huge losses in 2024.

Dims gonna scum.

 

[Nostra]

Nobody said they could prevent it. They were understaffed, which always causes delays.

Lies.

 

[Nostra]

Was before the modern era of Trump Derangement Syndrome......get a grip.


560 total......500 took buyouts or retirement. They didn't have to leave.

So they're hiring 125 or so and not 560...............sounds like severely over staffed.


NWS staffing was spot on for the emergency..............deaths were from local government and citizens not wanting to install flood warning in the area.

I see the TDS has gripped your soul................you need help, look what TDS has done to some of your com-padres:

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TDS makes ugly women uglier.

 

[Doc7505]

Yep, noted this, spoken about this already. If you have an area that is prone to flooding, and prone to flash floods, you need a system of communication to keep people safe. When weather warnings happen, you need to take note.

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Indeed, Since when has it become a Federal responsibility to to this when the Government has already provided States, cities and towns with meteorological information on an hourly basis.

What the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Does

NOAA efforts range from daily weather forecasts and storm warnings to climate monitoring, fisheries management, and marine conservation.

govfacts.org

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https://www.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/2021-10/What-is-NOAA-2011.pdf

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AI says:
"NOAA provides essential services such as weather forecasts, emergency alerts for severe weather, and climate data that help states, cities, and towns prepare for and respond to natural hazards. Their work supports community safety, economic planning, and environmental management, ensuring sustainable use of marine resources and protection of coastal areas."
As been proven, NOAA fulfilled their responsibilities to alert the areas of Texas that would or could be affected by the storm and flooding that would follow.
the Democrats and your attempts to blame Trump are spurious and unfound and blatant lies..

 

[Old Rocks]

There are people whose timing is just awful.
"Ted Cruz has had quite a week. On Tuesday, the Texas senator ensured the Republican spending bill slashed funding for weather forecasting, only to then go on vacation to Greece while his state was hit by deadly flooding, a disaster critics say was worsened by cuts to forecasting."

MSN

There were plentiful warnings about the dangers of cutting an already understaffed Weather Service. So now it takes over 100 dead Americans to demonstrate that those warnings were not baseless. That area does not need thoughts and prayers, it needs an river monitoring and warning system.

 

[MagicMike]

Yes, there was a Warning Coordination Meteorologist on duty at the National Weather Service office in Austin/San Antonio the night of the Texas flood.

Reading not your strong suit?

Actually Simp I read just fine. It would appear though that maybe YOU should spend as much time in the future reading EVERYTHING in the shit you post as you do selecting goofy emoticons to go with your cherry-picked snippets.
Take this part of your post that you conveniently left out for instance:

While the office was fully staffed with five employees that night, a permanent Warning Coordination Meteorologist (WCM) was not present. The position was vacant due to an early retirement offer accepted by Paul Yura, who had previously held the role. The WCM acts as a crucial link between forecasters and emergency managers.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Nope. I follow soccer. A player called Diogo Jota died the other day, he played for Liverpool, one of the biggest clubs in the world.

I've been criticizing him because either he or his brother was driving super fast when the tire of their expensive sports car exploded and they both died.

I get the same response as I'm getting from you. "Don't talk about the reasons why this happened".

You can try and attack me all you like, claiming I don't care about kids.

Okay, so where did I say federal cuts caused these kids to be killed? Literally I think the last post before this one was the first time I spoke about that, and that was because that popped up on the Fox "News" page.

A lot of what I've been talking about has been a a local level and a state level.

But you attack me pretending I'm saying the same as everyone else.

It's not an "attack"! It's simply pointing out what it is that you DO here!

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

The difference here was probably that a hurricane is well known about in advance. People knew it was coming. This flood in Texas, it was a case of the warning happening and then things needed to be done in a short time to let people know that something was happening. This is where that failure was.

In North Carolina, I'd say one issue is the upkeep of dams. In Helene there was a dam that could have collapsed. Yesterday there was a warning about a damn about to collapse too. They get big storms, dams need to be sorted out before the event, but penny pinching is a problem.

You misunderstood my point. The point is, measures were taken two days before the North Carolina storm hit and more people still died than in this one. But there was no outrage.

I'm sorry, but all this rhetoric about staff cuts and whatnot just smacks of Trump bashing. Besides all that, there is no direct evidence to suggest the staff cuts made any difference. The warnings were issued just as they were supposed to be as data presented itself. However, given the intensity of the storm and how fast the waters rose, I'm not sure that earlier warnings would have made a difference. I think it caught everyone off guard.

Speaking for myself, I am not laying the deaths of little girls at anyone's feet unless they find evidence to suggest the staff cuts and/or lack of an early warning system were contributing factors.

 

[Concerned American]

There are people whose timing is just awful.
"Ted Cruz has had quite a week. On Tuesday, the Texas senator ensured the Republican spending bill slashed funding for weather forecasting, only to then go on vacation to Greece while his state was hit by deadly flooding, a disaster critics say was worsened by cuts to forecasting."

MSN

There were plentiful warnings about the dangers of cutting an already understaffed Weather Service. So now it takes over 100 dead Americans to demonstrate that those warnings were not baseless. That area does not need thoughts and prayers, it needs an river monitoring and warning system.

There were three separate warnings as far ahead of the event as 12 hours. Alarms have been suggested many times over the past 12 years under three administrations and nothing was done. So much for the cuts in funding to an incompetent department, eh? Try again.