Does Loving Your Country Mean That You Have to Love Trump?

I still have mixed feelings and doubts about Trump right now, but I'm just a little confused why an awful lot of MAGAS seem to think that if you're not on the Trump train your an American hating left-wing leftist.


The reason why I bring this up is not just because of reactions I've had on the message board that I actually have things that I dislike about Trump now (although I still have likes) and that I'm uncertain of, but because of the dirty looks when I wear my hat. I mean it's not even saying whether I support Trump or not, so why do people have such a problem with it? Do they automatically tie it to being pro-Trump anyways?


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The primary political divide in this country is between the Right and the Left.

The LEFT has become anti-American.

The Right remains loyal to AMERICA and AMERICAN traditions and ideals.


Most of the people that are anti-trump, if you are able to get them to engage in discussion and you drill down,


you will find that the crux of the conflict is not HOW to best advance AMERIACAN interests, but that the person attacking trump or maga, are on the side AGAINST American interests.

A clear example is the illegal immigration issue. Note the way that nearly ALL those that attack Trump, on some level, do not believe that America has a moral right to refuse to let people in.


That is not a difference in HOW to best serve American interests, but a HOSTILITY to America.
 
1: Did loving your country mean you loved Obama?
2. Did loving your country mean you loved Biden?
No, despised them both. Clinton and Carter also.

But I was happy that the economy was good under Clinton, and I did not rejoice at the many failures of Obama and Biden, thinking it would help the GOP in the midterms.
 
His lock her up crap that he dropped as soon as he got elected... Promising to release the Epstein files and get people arrested, confessing to be a Bible reading Christian one moment and thinking highly equal to Jesus and praising Allah the next, promising to lower grocery and gas prices and get our country out of debt,... Those are just the ones that come to mind at the moment though.

He also promised us no new wars but I can see why he attacked Iran now since they were getting ready to use Nukes. I think that I got all of those unkept promises and lies right though. Anyways, I'm getting off topic.
well to his credit he DID lower gas prices in his first tewrm,its just now in his second term he has shown his TRUE colors and has inflated them serving the elite,i think he lowered them in his first twerm to get people to thinking he was for us then in his second term he planned all along to esculate the prices.
 
well to his credit he DID lower gas prices in his first tewrm,its just now in his second term he has shown his TRUE colors and has inflated them serving the elite,i think he lowered them in his first twerm to get people to thinking he was for us then in his second term he planned all along to esculate the prices.
What is his motivation to "serve the elite?"
 
His lock her up crap that he dropped as soon as he got elected... Promising to release the Epstein files and get people arrested, confessing to be a Bible reading Christian one moment and thinking highly equal to Jesus and praising Allah the next, promising to lower grocery and gas prices and get our country out of debt,... Those are just the ones that come to mind at the moment though.

He also promised us no new wars but I can see why he attacked Iran now since they were getting ready to use Nukes. I think that I got all of those unkept promises and lies right though. Anyways, I'm getting off topic.
I won't accuse you of that.
I was eager for Hillary to be locked up since it was her that started the birther issue. Actually, it was her campaign manager to be honest. However, her role in overthrowing our government is what I want her locked up for along with Obama and Biden. Trump also annoys me. But all in all, I am pretty resilient and know he says things that I personally would never say. I checked the other day on things presidents promise. I found that they have long records of making promises that they do not keep. So, I choose not to pick on Trump since it is very widely spread out.
Trump signed the order to release all Epstein files. Those really should be called police files accumulated to prosecute Epstein. Trump never would have told them to release them had he feared any problems.

I am not familiar with your statement about Allah. Bear this in mind. The Media we use lies to us. I wish this was not true. But they get caught lying and we should all raise hell over it.

Remember when Biden pardoned his son. Politico wrote an article talking as if the conviction was not fair at all. And he said based on that he pardoned his criminal son.

Now, his son's crimes, though wrong, I understand a dad saving his kid. But the media acted as if his son was innocent.

Lowering prices in the middle of war, or in this case, attacks against Iran would really be a miracle since it has not happened in other wars. I am not clear why citizens expect prices to fall when conflicts this massive happen. We will see prices lower after this ends.
 
No, despised them both. Clinton and Carter also.

But I was happy that the economy was good under Clinton, and I did not rejoice at the many failures of Obama and Biden, thinking it would help the GOP in the midterms.

I celebrated the way that Bill Clinton sabotaged the idiotic Land Mine Treaty.

It did not get a lot of news coverage, and I think that without political input, Bill Clinton, instictively played to win, ie as AMERICAN PRESIDENT, he reflexively played to advance AMERICAN interests.

And did so very well. I gave him credit for that, and I still do. Good call on his part.
 
I still have mixed feelings and doubts about Trump right now, but I'm just a little confused why an awful lot of MAGAS seem to think that if you're not on the Trump train your an American hating left-wing leftist.


The reason why I bring this up is not just because of reactions I've had on the message board that I actually have things that I dislike about Trump now (although I still have likes) and that I'm uncertain of, but because of the dirty looks when I wear my hat. I mean it's not even saying whether I support Trump or not, so why do people have such a problem with it? Do they automatically tie it to being pro-Trump anyways?


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Starving for attention?
 
His lock her up crap that he dropped as soon as he got elected... Promising to release the Epstein files and get people arrested, confessing to be a Bible reading Christian one moment and thinking highly equal to Jesus and praising Allah the next, promising to lower grocery and gas prices and get our country out of debt,... Those are just the ones that come to mind at the moment though.

He also promised us no new wars but I can see why he attacked Iran now since they were getting ready to use Nukes. I think that I got all of those unkept promises and lies right though. Anyways, I'm getting off topic.
Yeah, he said 'for what she's done, they should lock her up and yes, he backtracked on that because he said he wanted the country to heal and did not wish to hurt the Clintons. Besides Trump did not literally say the three words 'lock her up' chant that his supporters screamed. That is not a deal breaker for me though, I'd just as soon see him closing the border, getting illegal alien criminals, stopping drugs and going after the 'death to America' Mullahs that were about to get Nukes and inter continental ballistic missiles.

Trumpo signed a law that required the DOJ to release the Epstein files. Starting in late 2025 to 2026, millions of pages of records have been made public. The DOJ actually released the files in stages. That was not good enough for the Democrats who claim there are files that were not released or overly redacted.

Trump never praised Allah. Trump did lower gas and grocery prices but, the war In Iran caused them to go up. Please note, that gas prices today are going down and not as high during Biden where we had no war, just bad economic policies and a promise to end fossil fuels.

As far as 'no new wars' I have to ask if I would rather have higher gas prices or a nuclear armed Iran.
 
The primary political divide in this country is between the Right and the Left.

The LEFT has become anti-American.

The Right remains loyal to AMERICA and AMERICAN traditions and ideals.


Most of the people that are anti-trump, if you are able to get them to engage in discussion and you drill down,


you will find that the crux of the conflict is not HOW to best advance AMERIACAN interests, but that the person attacking trump or maga, are on the side AGAINST American interests.

A clear example is the illegal immigration issue. Note the way that nearly ALL those that attack Trump, on some level, do not believe that America has a moral right to refuse to let people in.


That is not a difference in HOW to best serve American interests, but a HOSTILITY to America.



Well whatever political party you're from you should detest illegals being allowed to be in it.


I won't accuse you of that.
I was eager for Hillary to be locked up since it was her that started the birther issue. Actually, it was her campaign manager to be honest. However, her role in overthrowing our government is what I want her locked up for along with Obama and Biden. Trump also annoys me. But all in all, I am pretty resilient and know he says things that I personally would never say. I checked the other day on things presidents promise. I found that they have long records of making promises that they do not keep. So, I choose not to pick on Trump since it is very widely spread out.
Trump signed the order to release all Epstein files. Those really should be called police files accumulated to prosecute Epstein. Trump never would have told them to release them had he feared any problems.

I am not familiar with your statement about Allah. Bear this in mind. The Media we use lies to us. I wish this was not true. But they get caught lying and we should all raise hell over it.

Remember when Biden pardoned his son. Politico wrote an article talking as if the conviction was not fair at all. And he said based on that he pardoned his criminal son.

Now, his son's crimes, though wrong, I understand a dad saving his kid. But the media acted as if his son was innocent.

Lowering prices in the middle of war, or in this case, attacks against Iran would really be a miracle since it has not happened in other wars. I am not clear why citizens expect prices to fall when conflicts this massive happen. We will see prices lower after this ends.

I agree with you, but this is the praise Allah thing.


Starving for attention?

Well if I am you just contributed to it. 😁

Yeah, he said 'for what she's done, they should lock her up and yes, he backtracked on that because he said he wanted the country to heal and did not wish to hurt the Clintons. Besides Trump did not literally say the three words 'lock her up' chant that his supporters screamed. That is not a deal breaker for me though, I'd just as soon see him closing the border, getting illegal alien criminals, stopping drugs and going after the 'death to America' Mullahs that were about to get Nukes and inter continental ballistic missiles.

Trumpo signed a law that required the DOJ to release the Epstein files. Starting in late 2025 to 2026, millions of pages of records have been made public. The DOJ actually released the files in stages. That was not good enough for the Democrats who claim there are files that were not released or overly redacted.

Trump never praised Allah. Trump did lower gas and grocery prices but, the war In Iran caused them to go up. Please note, that gas prices today are going down and not as high during Biden where we had no war, just bad economic policies and a promise to end fossil fuels.

As far as 'no new wars' I have to ask if I would rather have higher gas prices or a nuclear armed Iran.

I backtracked about the war thing and the grocery prices.
 
What is his motivation to "serve the elite?"
Why hasn’t he released the Epstein Files? Why is he fighting yet another war for Israel? Do you know how much money Zionist billionaires have given him? They don’t do that unless they get what they want.

Don is being blackmailed by the elite.

Do you have any idea what is going on in this country?
 
Why hasn’t he released the Epstein Files? Why is he fighting yet another war for Israel? Do you know how much money Zionist billionaires have given him? They don’t do that unless they get what they want.

Don is being blackmailed by the elite.

Do you have any idea what is going on in this country?
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Heck no and you're actually one of the people who hasn't attacked me due to some criticism that I've given towards Trump so thank you for that. I just don't know why I get all of the dirty looks for showing patriotism today though, so that's the point of this topic. I just wanted to acknowledge that part.
You have to kill the Christians to find your roto router route without any gum ups.
 
Why hasn’t he released the Epstein Files? Why is he fighting yet another war for Israel? Do you know how much money Zionist billionaires have given him? They don’t do that unless they get what they want.

Don is being blackmailed by the elite.

Do you have any idea what is going on in this country?
Blackmailed with what?

:laughing0301:

Because the Dems have accused him of everything in the book - all things that Democrats keep turning out to be guilty of - he is themost blackmail-proof human being in the history of ever.
 
Why hasn’t he released the Epstein Files? Why is he fighting yet another war for Israel? Do you know how much money Zionist billionaires have given him? They don’t do that unless they get what they want.

Don is being blackmailed by the elite.

Do you have any idea what is going on in this country?


Maybe you're not as bad as I thought.
 
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Why hasn’t he released the Epstein Files? Why is he fighting yet another war for Israel? Do you know how much money Zionist billionaires have given him? They don’t do that unless they get what they want.

Don is being blackmailed by the elite.

Do you have any idea what is going on in this country?
What is your opinion on two men. Obama first then Biden. Do you admire them both? Do you wonder why both supported Israel? Do you wonder why they did not release the Epstein files? Were they blackmailed by the elite?
 
I celebrated the way that Bill Clinton sabotaged the idiotic Land Mine Treaty.

It did not get a lot of news coverage, and I think that without political input, Bill Clinton, instictively played to win, ie as AMERICAN PRESIDENT, he reflexively played to advance AMERICAN interests.

And did so very well. I gave him credit for that, and I still do. Good call on his part.
Yes, I had never thought of it that way, but yes. Clinton was the last Democrat whose ego was wrapped up in improving the lives of Americans - as Trump's is. The last MAGA Democrat in that respect, though he would have not been caught dead using that slogan.

Obama disdained America and American patriotism. The media loved and idolized him for it. Biden was an Obama protege, with handlers carefully selected to make sure he carried out the America last, socialist agenda. He did not hate America, he just didn't care about it, especially of it got in the way of his hand-over-fist corruption profits.
 
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