Doctor Knows Best

You are ignoring the entire purpose of the EC.

The founders did not trust the people to chose.
the purpose was to have the states elect POTUS so that all states had a say and the smaller ones had equal power as the bigger ones per population,,

if they didnt trust the people they would have had congress elect them but thats not what they did,,,

once again you twist the facts just a little bit to distort the topic,,
 
the purpose was to have the states elect POTUS so that all states had a say and the smaller ones had equal power as the bigger ones per population,,

if they didnt trust the people they would have had congress elect them but thats not what they did,,,

once again you twist the facts just a little bit to distort the topic,,
They didn’t trust Congress to do it either!

They wanted people from outside government to pick the president. That’s why the electors exist in the first place.

You’re still ignoring the purpose of the electors.

Read Federalist Paper 68.
 
They didn’t trust Congress to do it either!

They wanted people from outside government to pick the president. That’s why the electors exist in the first place.

You’re still ignoring the purpose of the electors.

Read Federalist Paper 68.
do you ever not twist the facts???

youre a one page book thats been read many times,,
 
"Well we just tried a amateur politician who knew nothing about government, Mr. Trump,...."

Yet produced a miraculous economy and foreign policy.
You mean he inherited a miraculous economy like he inherited a real estate business. I'm happy to give him some credit for not screwing up the economy, his business I'm not sure about.

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It sure isn’t your daddy’s Democrat Party.



1.America was created as a place where citizens select other citizens to rule. That is not the view of Progressives from Woodrow Wilson on, that government should be run by unelected bureaucrats who will do a better job than the deplorables.

“Rather than the people being governed by elected representatives, the three branches, “Woodrow Wilson gave the administrative state its rationale: he held that government by nonpartisan, public-spirited, Ivy League–trained experts making rules in such agencies as the Federal Trade Commission or the Interstate Commerce Commission would be infinitely wiser, more efficient, and more responsive to changing conditions and the evolving spirit of the age than the Framers’ government of limited and separated powers, a clockwork relic in the electricity age.”
The Court Moves Right


We were never meant to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats, doctors, judges, etc. and certainly not by foreign entities like the WHO.
We were meant to self-govern.


2. This is the idea of the ‘administrative state.’
" ... there’s a tendency among bureaucrats, politicians, academics, and other members of the New Class to convince the people to hand over the major decisions of their lives to the “experts.” These experts aren’t all in the government, but they all collude with government to convince people that the experts have all the answers and that the people need to hand the reins over to them. They will tell us what to eat, what to drive, what to think.
It’s an approach that puts politics before medicine or economics. Because it is an attempt to politicize peoples’ lives.”
Nazis: Still Socialists, by Jonah Goldberg, National Review




It is the doctrine of the administrative state, one run by unelected experts, bureaucrats, scientists, technocrats who know what is best for everyone else. These ‘special’ individuals would never make choices designed for their own aggrandizement.
You buyin’ that?

‘Cause if your are, get ready for mask mandates, lockdowns, legalized injections….with lots of boosters.

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Keep want to prolong the restrictions...
Anti Mask is Pro Lockdown
Anti Vaccine is Pro Lockdown

Lets all be clear being Anti Mask or Anti Vaccine is promoting more restrictions which means more Government control...
 
It’s a fact that you’re really bad at making an argument.

Maybe if you wouldn’t chose such shitty arguments to make.
calling out your lies isnt making an argument,,

maybe if you told the whole truth and not spin the facts we might get somewhere,,

but at least you didnt say the EC was to protect slavery like the other drones are doing,,
 
You mean he inherited a miraculous economy like he inherited a real estate business. I'm happy to give him some credit for not screwing up the economy, his business I'm not sure about.

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No, actually, you're lying again.

Watch me prove it.


A Tale of Two Economies

Trump’s policies are helping workers more than Obama’s did.



Time to wake up from the Barack Obama economy, folks, and admit how many more Americans are prospering from the faster economic growth and tighter labor market after the policy changes of 2017. Opinion | A Tale of Two Economies


“Writing in the Wall Street Journal, former CEO Andy Puzder claims that Trump easily wins over Obama when you look at the numbers:

For eight years under President Obama, the growing burden of government suppressed the economic recovery that should have followed the recession of 2008-09. Mr. Obama nonetheless has claimed responsibility for today’s boom, asking Americans in September to “remember when this recovery started.” Yet it wasn’t until President Trump took office that the economy surged. …The result is a rising tide that is lifting boats across every class and region of the country. …Today unemployment rests at 3.7%, near a 50-year low. Since the government began reporting the data, unemployment has never been as low as it is today for African-Americans, Latinos, Asians and people with only a high-school education.

It’s certainly good news that unemployment rates have dropped. But labor-force participation numbers still haven’t fully recovered—or even come close to fully recovering—so the data on jobs is not quite as impressive as it sounds.

That being said, Puzder has a compelling indictment of Obama’s performance:

During a typical recovery, the economy grows at a rate between 3% and 4%, and the Obama administration predicted such a surge in its 2010 midsession review. It never came. The “recovery” of those years often felt much like a recession.

Amen. This echoes my criticism of Obamanomics. He made the US a bit more like Europe, so it’s no surprise that growth was weak.

Let’s now look at Puzder’s evidence that Trump has done a better job. He compares the end of the Obama economy with the beginning of the Trump economy:

GDP growth staggered along at 1.5% in Mr. Obama’s final six full quarters in office. …growth doubled to 3% during Mr. Trump’s first six full quarters. …the increase in job openings over Mr. Trump’s first 21 months has averaged an impressive 75,000 a month. Over Mr. Obama’s last 21 months in office, the number of job openings increased an average of 900 a month. …During Mr. Obama’s last 21 months, the number of employed Americans increased an average of 157,000 a month. Under Mr. Trump, the increase has accelerated to 214,000 a month, a 36% improvement. …In Mr. Obama’s final 21 months, weekly earnings rose an average of $1.31 a month. Under Mr. Trump, weekly earnings have increased an average of $1.84 cents a month: a 40% improvement that’s come mostly since tax reform took effect in January. Over that period, weekly earnings have grown an average of $2.31 a month, a 76% increase over Mr. Obama’s last 21 months. …The unemployment rate declined 13% during Mr. Obama’s last 21 months, but from there it has dropped another 23% during Mr. Trump’s tenure.” The Obama Economy vs. the Trump Economy | Daniel J. Mitchell
“Trump's Economy Keeps Humming: Manufacturing Adding More Jobs Than Government, Reversing Obama Trend

Overall, comparing President Trump’s first 27 months of key employment data to the last 27 months under President Obama shows a continuation of employment growth, the kind often seen in the mature stages of a business cycle, with 5,860,000 nonfarm jobs added during Obama’s last 27 months compared to 5,373,000 under Trump’s first 27 months.

Private sector employment also compares similarly over the same period, with 5,453,000 jobs added to private sector payrolls in Obama’s last 27 months in office compared to 5,158,000 during a comparable period under Trump.

However, a substantial difference can be seen in the job gains in the manufacturing sector compared to the government employment sector (federal, state and local) under the two administrations, with government at all levels adding 407,000 jobs in Obama’s last 27 months compared to 215,000 jobs since Trump took office. Manufacturing employment was in stark contrast, with manufacturers adding only 129,000 jobs during Obama’s last 27 months compared to 466,000 jobs since Trump took office, implementing a series of deregulatory measures and tax cuts that have encouraged industrial production and investment.

Comparatively, during Trump’s watch, the economy has added two manufacturing jobs for each job added in government while under Obama’s last 27 months, about three government jobs were added for each manufacturing job.” Trump's Economy Keeps Humming: Manufacturing Adding More Jobs Than Government, Reversing Obama Trend
Sorry Obama, But It's Trump's Economic Boom, Not Yours

Barack Obama is on the road attempting to claim credit for the booming economy under President Trump. But the only thing Obama deserves credit for is making it easy for Trump to undo Obama's anti-growth policies.

For eight years, President Obama presided over the worst economic recovery in modern times. For six years, he blamed Republicans in Congress for thwarting his spending agenda and hampering growth. In his last two years in office, he claimed that 2% growth was the best we could hope for. And in his last year in office, while the economy was again stalling out, Obama claimed that Trump's tax cuts and deregulation would only make things worse.

But now that we're in the midst of a booming economy — which kicked in after Trump reversed almost all Obama's economic policies — we're supposed to believe that it's Obama who deserves all the credit.

There's more. The rate of GDP growth was decelerating in Obama's last year. It went from 2.3% in Q2, to 1.9% in Q3 to 1.8% in Q4 of 2016. Under Trump, GDP growth has averaged 2.9%. It was 4.2% last quarter and might be higher in the current one.

The stock market also was stuck in neutral the year before the November 2016 elections. The Dow is up by some 45% since then.

Real median family income didn't budge from August 2015 to November 2016, according to Sentier Research. It's up more than 4% since Trump came into office. Wages are on the upswing.

In Obama's last year, unemployment rate remained basically unchanged — it was 4.9% in Jan 2016, and 4.8% when Trump took office in Jan. 2017. Now it's down to 3.9%

The New York Times itself described Obama's economy this way in August 2016: "For three quarters in a row, the growth rate of the economy has hovered around a mere 1%. In the last quarter of 2015 and the first quarter of 2016, the economy expanded at feeble annual rates of 0.9% and 0.8%, respectively. The initial reading for the second quarter of this year, released on Friday, was a disappointing 1.2%."

And on January 27, 2017, after the government reported that GDP growth for all 2016 was a mere 1.6% — the weakest in five years — the Times announced that "President Trump's target for economic growth just got a little more distant."

That same month, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office forecast growth this year would be just 1.9%.

There were other signs of stagnation as well. Stocks had flatlined in 2016, with major indexes down slightly. Real median household income dropped that year, according to Sentier Research.

Growth had been so worrisomely slow throughout Obama's two terms in office that journalists started warning about "secular stagnation." They said the country was in a period of long, sustained, slow growth resulting from slow population and productivity growth.

In August 2016, the Times declared that "the underlying reality of low growth will haunt whoever wins the White House."

The next month, CBS News reported that "with U.S. economic growth stuck in low gear for several years, it's leading many economists to worry that the country has entered a prolonged period where any expansion will be weaker than it has been in the past."

In short, there was no upward trajectory to the economy on anyone's radar when Trump took office.

Now that the economy is outperforming everyone's expectations, Trump's critics want to pretend that the current boom was already baked in the cake.” Economic Boom: Media Rewrite History To Credit Obama Instead Of Trump
Over 8 years President Obama’s economy produced $6.4 trillion less GDP than was projected when he took office in January 2009. That initial projection already incorporated the recession that began in 2007.

Since President Trump took office in January 2017, CBO has raised its projection of the cumulative 2017-2024 GDP by $3.3 trillion. https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/trump-vs-obama-economy-who-performed-better-11474.html


Trump rescued America from the economic oblivion under Obama

Even in the midst of the economic boom America is enjoying under the stewardship of Donald Trump, Democratic candidates are suggesting we return to the failed policies of Barack Obama. Since President Trump took office two years ago, the national economic engine has been roaring, generating widespread prosperity across every corner of the country.

In 2016, the final year under President Obama, real gross domestic product grew by just 1.6 percent, which was also the average growth rate during all of his eight years in office. Under President Trump, growth increased to 2.2 percent in 2017, jumped again to 2.9 percent in 2018, and rose to an incredible 3.2 percent earlier this year.

By adopting policies that put our nation first, such as cutting taxes to make businesses more competitive and allow workers to keep more of their paychecks, eliminating wasteful regulations, and protecting our workers from unfair foreign competition by renegotiating outdated trade deals, President Trump has been the polar opposite of his predecessor. President Obama heavily regulated the financial industry in an attempt to reduce economic risk, but this strategy of punishing bankers only ended up dragging down growth. He also championed poorly negotiated trade deals that put our workers at a disadvantage, such as the Trans Pacific Partnership that President Trump wisely scrapped after taking office.

The results of these wildly different approaches speak for themselves.

…the free market policies of President Trump are what rescued us from the economic calamity brought on by the big government liberalism that the Democrats are still pushing to this day. Trump rescued America from the economic oblivion under Obama

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Daily Pro Lockdown Thread

Keep want to prolong the restrictions...
Anti Mask is Pro Lockdown
Anti Vaccine is Pro Lockdown

Lets all be clear being Anti Mask or Anti Vaccine is promoting more restrictions which means more Government control...



Articulate a point here.....unless, of course, you are a government school grad and lack the ability.


But I would like to see it.




BTW....do you know the recovery rate from the Wuhan Red Death?


I do.
 
"Well we just tried a amateur politician who knew nothing about government, Mr. Trump,...."


Yet produced a miraculous economy and foreign policy.



Reminder:



Trump achievements.


“Before the China Virus invaded our shores, we built the world’s most prosperous economy,” the statement begins, noting the administration achieved an “unprecedented economic boom.”

In addition to 7 million new jobs — “more than three times government experts’ projections” — the administration said that annual income for middle-class families grew by nearly $6,000, or “more than five times the gains during the entire previous administration.”

Weeks before state and local governments began shutting down their economies, the U.S. unemployment rate fell to 3.5 percent, “the lowest in a half-century,” the administration said.

In fact, in March 2019, CBS News reported that there were a million more jobs available in the U.S. than unemployed workers — a fact noted by the administration, which said it “achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job hirings.”

Nearly 160 million Americans were employed pre-pandemic, another record, as “jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low,” the White House said.

As incomes gained “in every single metro area” in the country for the first time in almost 30 years, the number of people “claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest on record,” the administration said.

The list of accomplishments also noted an oft-repeated point — that during Trump’s term, blacks and Hispanics, as well as Asian-Americans and Native Americans all achieved record low unemployment rates. So, too, did Americans with disabilities and workers without a high school diploma, the administration said.

“The bottom 50 percent of American households saw a 40 percent increase in net worth,” said the administration, adding: “Wages rose fastest for low-income and blue collar workers – a 16 percent pay increase.”

Meanwhile, “African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4 percent,” the White House noted.

More than 1.2 million factory and construction jobs were created, as the president enacted “policies to bring back supply chains from overseas,” the list notes.

The administration also touted the meteoric growth in the various U.S. stock indices, which have been good for businesses as well as average Americans’ retirement accounts tied to the markets.

One of President Trump’s 2016 campaign pledges that went unfulfilled was the passage of a massive infrastructure rebuilding project to repair and replace aging, crumbling bridges, roads, sewers, and water systems. But the administration did manage to invest “over $1.3 billion through the Agriculture Department’s ReConnect Program to bring high-speed broadband infrastructure to rural America,” the list notes.

The administration also touted the president’s COVID-19 policies that included a rejection of “blanket lockdowns” as vital to the economic rebound seen in recent months.

“During the third quarter of 2020,” the White House said, “the economy grew at a rate of 33.1 percent — the most rapid GDP growth ever recorded.”

“Since coronavirus lockdowns ended, the economy has added back over 12 million jobs, more than half the jobs lost,” says the White House. “Jobs have been recovered 23 times faster than the previous administration’s recovery.”

The White House said that under President Barack Obama, “it took 49 months for the unemployment rate to fall from 10 percent” following the Great Recession” to under 7 percent compared to just 3 months for the Trump Administration” following the mass joblessness created by mandated business closures and the pandemic.

At the same time, “80 percent of small businesses are now up, up from just 53 percent in April.”

Additional accomplishments noted by the administration include:

— The creation of more than 9,000 “Opportunity Zones” to attract business investment and create jobs;

— Tax relief for corporations, businesses, and the vast majority of American workers;

— The elimination of reams of regulations, which has added to the country’s economic growth;

— Pursued “fair and reciprocal trade” agreements that put the United States first, including withdrawal “from the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership” and replacing the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA);

— “Historic support for American farmers”;

— Making the U.S. “a net energy exporter” for the first time in seven decades;

— Approved the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines;

— Increased access to the country’s “abundant natural resource in order to achieve energy independence”;

— Built more than 450 miles of new border wall and secured agreements with countries to house migrants there instead of in the U.S.;

— “Fully enforced the immigration laws” of the country;

— Got NATO countries to significantly increase their contributions to the alliance, as per their initial agreement;

— Strengthened and rebuilt the U.S. military;

— Reduced U.S. troop presence in war zones overseas;

— Brokered several historic peace deals between long-time enemies in eastern Europe and the Middle East;

— Moved the U.S. embassy in Israel to the capital of Jerusalem, though the three previous presidents pledged to do so;

— Defeated ISIS

— Sped development of two new vaccines for the COVID-19 pandemic in record time.
www.bizpacreview.com


'Unprecedented': White House releases exhaustive list of achievements for Trump presidency

The Trump Administration has released an exhaustive list of accomplishments achieved over the past four years, many of which have largely gone unreported
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Now, let's see what Democrats voted for.

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Trump left the economy in the dumpster....

He had a net loss in jobs

HE borrowed money like a drunken sailor....

Trump served for four years... The don't award rings to guys at half time in the super bowl...

Trump rode Obama coats tails and economy, borrow more money for a tax cut which they admitted was never going to be paid for...

Then watched it all blow up through incompetent preparation for a pandemic...
 
calling out your lies isnt making an argument,,

maybe if you told the whole truth and not spin the facts we might get somewhere,,

but at least you didnt say the EC was to protect slavery like the other drones are doing,,
You half-assed an argument, ran out of bullshit and now are whining like a child.

We arent getting anywhere because you’re a moron who is unable to have a discussion.
 
Trump left the economy in the dumpster....

He had a net loss in jobs

HE borrowed money like a drunken sailor....

Trump served for four years... The don't award rings to guys at half time in the super bowl...

Trump rode Obama coats tails and economy, borrow more money for a tax cut which they admitted was never going to be paid for...

Then watched it all blow up through incompetent preparation for a pandemic...



Actually the Democrats made certain that the riots that they authorized, and the lock-downs, destroyed a miraculous economy.

I have posited that, as Trump's greatest asset in the campaign has been his miraculous economy, after Hussein 'masterminded' the slowest recovery in history, and the answer to this by the party of evil is to organize a nationwide shutdown of the economy through lock-downs, riots, and closing schools to keep parents from going back to work.

And, it appears to have been successful.

And now look what your party managed to do:

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Happy you stole the election????
 
You half-assed an argument, ran out of bullshit and now are whining like a child.

We arent getting anywhere because you’re a moron who is unable to have a discussion.
we arent getting anywhere because you always twist the facts just a little bit to distort the topic,,,

sorry but your reputation precedes you,,
 
we arent getting anywhere because you always twist the facts just a little bit to distort the topic,,,

sorry but your reputation precedes you,,
If you weren’t a moron, you’d make an argument that shows I’m twisting facts.

But you don’t because you are indeed such a moron.

Ciao, troll.
 
4. Lots of folks find it easier just to follow the orders of ‘experts’ rather than their own experience or research.
And lots of miscalculations, missteps, dangers…..are out there.


Lots of stories appear to weigh heavily against the Democrat tendency to mandate, force, order, coerce, and oppress.



“Teens 50X More Likely to Have Heart Disease After COVID Shots than All Other FDA Approved Vaccines in 2021 Combined – CDC Admits True but Still Recommends It”
Teens 50X More Likely to Have Heart Disease After COVID Shots than All Other FDA Approved Vaccines in 2021 Combined – CDC Admits True but Still Recommends It - Medical Kidnap




“Healthy Student Athlete Develops Myocarditis Days After Second Jab, Warns America About Biden’s Medical Dictatorship”
Healthy Student Athlete Develops Myocarditis Days After Second Jab, Warns America About Biden’s Medical Dictatorship




“Inventor Of mRNA Vaccine: ‘Hospitalization Risk Of Vaccine Higher Than Virus For Young Men’”
 
You are ignoring the entire purpose of the EC.
The founders did not trust the people to chose.
Liar. It was a compromise.
Among the many thorny questions debated by the delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention, one of the hardest to resolve was how to elect the president. The Founding Fathers debated for months, with some arguing that Congress should pick the president and others insistent on a democratic popular vote.

Their compromise is known as the Electoral College.
 
Liar. It was a compromise.
Among the many thorny questions debated by the delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention, one of the hardest to resolve was how to elect the president. The Founding Fathers debated for months, with some arguing that Congress should pick the president and others insistent on a democratic popular vote.

Their compromise is known as the Electoral College.

It was a compromise that resulted in the American people not choosing the president.

Either way, I’m right.
 
You made a half assed attempt and then just stopped on post 23 because you couldn’t understand the purpose of the electoral college.

Or at least refused to disabuse yourself of the American myths.
youre the one that claimed all of the founding fathers didnt trust the people yet they put all the power in the people through the states,,

save it spanky we know you will never tell the whole truth,,,
 

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