CDZ Do you want to protect schoolchildren right now or not?

[flan327]

Yeah, GJ to you and all of your sob sisters.

Please get HELP

 

[flan327]

Clean Debate Zone.

Yeah?

I’ll just grab my Windex

 

[flan327]

3. Troubled kid grows up to be a mass shooter somewhere.

All I'm thinking is to identify a troubled kid early on and help him deal with his issues.

What if the kid refuses to take his meds?

 

[flan327]

Let's see:

1. Remove troubled kid from classroom

2. Leave troubled/potentially dangerous kid in classroom

Please ANSWER MY QUESTION

 

[2aguy]

I honestly don’t think they care. You are looking at people so messed up they aren’t going to think about consequences and might even want to be killed in the process.

Actually, these killers plan their attacks in advance.....some upwards of 6 months to two years.....and they target the elementary schools because in most cases, they don't have police resource officers on site.....those police officers are at the middle and high schools because of other crimes and drug related issues.

Parkland had a resource officer assigned, but the campus has over 10 buildings...one officer couldn't cover all those buildings.....

The Sandy Hook shooter attended all 3 schools....the elementary, middle and high school.....he knew that the only school without a police resource officer was the elementary school, and he also knew that the smallest children wouldn't be able to escape...

 

[2aguy]

What if the kid refuses to take his meds?

You put him in a mental hospital.............

 

[2aguy]

You mean all of that isn't already being used at schools, yet they talk of banning firearms to all in lieu of these simple measures?


Maybe Chuck Schumer will propose underground tunnels between the school and each kid's home.


Half of all teens are "troubled." Kinda what being a teen is all about.


Great. So if you make fun of a kid, pick on him or hurt his feelings now, you'll be under a federal terrorist watch list 24/7. If that doesn't drive kids to shoot others, I don't know what will.


This isn't rocket science.

1. You train some of the staff to carry concealed, switch folks around every week or so.
2. You give students and staff RFID cards to access the building through designated entries.
3. You put a metal detector inside with security to ensure no one enters with guns or knives.

ITMT, you go back to making schools happy, healthy, helpful places to learn again like they used to be where students making mistakes are corrected with love and compassion instead of strict zero tolerance authoritarianism where students don't live in fear with 101 different reasons why they might get suspended, banned, threatened or arrested just for being kids.

And the one I like.......a local school district installed police call boxes...like fire alarm boxes...where you pull a lever to set off alarms and signal the fire department....

The police box sets off an alarm, different from the fire department alarm, I think it is even a voice warning of an intruder on campus, but the most important part?

The box goes directly to the local police department....and they immediately send all staff to the school...bypassing the delay of calling 911.......so you have a building full of cops on the way behind the squad cars already in the town....cuts down on response time amazingly well....

I think it also releases the magnets on the doors so that hallways are locked down.....this may not be the best because unless the police have keys, it keeps them out of certain places where the killer might be...

 

[flan327]

You put him in a mental hospital.............

What if he REFUSES to take his meds?

Lobotomize him?

 

[2aguy]

What if he REFUSES to take his meds?

Lobotomize him?

Keep him committed if he is a violent mental patient.......

Keep in mind......out of 330 million Americans...52.9 million of them have some sort of mental health issue....

Last year 6 of them committed mass public shootings,

2019..... 2 of them did

 

[flan327]

Keep him committed if he is a violent mental patient.......

Keep in mind......out of 330 million Americans...52.9 million of them have some sort of mental health issue....

Last year 6 of them committed mass public shootings,

2019..... 2 of them did

Link?

 

[2aguy]

Link?

Here...

Mental illnesses are common in the United States. Nearly one in five U.S. adults live with a mental illness (52.9 million in 2020).

Mental Illness

An overview of statistics for mental illnesses. Mental illnesses are common in the United States. One in six U.S. adults lives with a mental illness (43.4 million in 2015). Mental illnesses include many different conditions that vary in degree of severity, ranging from mild to moderate to severe.

www.nimh.nih.gov

 

[flan327]

Here...

Mental illnesses are common in the United States. Nearly one in five U.S. adults live with a mental illness (52.9 million in 2020).

Mental Illness

An overview of statistics for mental illnesses. Mental illnesses are common in the United States. One in six U.S. adults lives with a mental illness (43.4 million in 2015). Mental illnesses include many different conditions that vary in degree of severity, ranging from mild to moderate to severe.

www.nimh.nih.gov

My stepdaughter suffers from mania
She is 41 now
Lived at home with Mommy
Never had a iob
Three kids
Two baby daddies

My husband tried to get her help when she was 10 years old
His wife refused

 

[2aguy]

My stepdaughter suffers from mania
She is 41 now
Lived at home with Mommy
Never had a iob
Three kids
Two baby daddies

My husband tried to get her help when she was 10 years old
His wife refused

and so far she didn't shoot up a school......

Again...

330 million Americans

52 million with mental health issues of varying degrees....

in 2021.... 6 committed mass public shootings.

2020..... 2 committed mass public shootings.

 

[flan327]

and so far she didn't shoot up a school......

Again...

330 million Americans

52 million with mental health issues of varying degrees....

in 2021.... 6 committed mass public shootings.

2020..... 2 committed mass public shootings.

Do you have a point?

She drove drunk and crashed her car with her TWO BABIES in it

 

[2aguy]

Do you have a point?

She drove drunk and crashed her car with her TWO BABIES in it

Sad......and?

 

[Leo123]

The school year is basically over or about to be over across the country, and summer vacation is upon us and the kids. So what can we do between now and September to make our schools safer? Let's be honest, there is no way a ban on assault weapons, however they are defined, is going to happen between now and then. We may have some form of bipartisan national gun control legislation at some point, but IMHO it ain't likely and probably not until after the election. Maybe some states will take action of some sort, but before September? I kinda doubt that, so is it not the best thing to do to make our schools safer and more secure in the meantime?

As I see it, one requirement is surveillance outside the school, is somebody headed this way? That means cameras and somebody to monitor them during the school day until the kids have all left. It also means a few security people outside the buildings while the kids are out there coming to school or going home or at recess. You can make the school buildings harder to get into but you have to be watchful for somebody who tries to shoot as many kids as possible before they get into the building or while they're leaving.

It seems to me that we've got to be more attentive to the troubled school kids too. If a kid is acting aggressively or abusively then they need to be identified and watched. Who is being bullied and who is doing the bullying. We gotta do better at stopping that crap before it gets to be a bigger problem. That means more surveillance and a few more counselors to work with the troubled kids, both victims and abusers. Parents have to be notified as necessary.

No doubt there are a number of things that can be done to improve school security. For instance, you can't leave an external door propped open, and those doors shouldn't be opened by shooting the locks. It seems to me that if properly installed and with proper training that arming teachers might not really be necessary if the bad guys can't get into the building and the cops are called sooner when trouble looks like it's headed towards one of our schools. 100 false alarms is better than 99 false alarms and one mass shooting.

How about we start with actually locking the doors and have armed security on campus? Arm trained teachers as well. Also, just like fire drills, have active shooter drills so the everyone knows what to do and where to go in the event of an emergent situation. Door chocks for rooms with doors opening into the room. Little wedges, they could make them in wood shop. Even if the perp shoots the door lock the door chock would be another barrier providing a little more time for the people inside.

 

[flan327]

Sad......and?

She could have gotten HELP

 

[2aguy]

She could have gotten HELP

Yes.......and?

 

[2aguy]

Link?

I pointed out how rare it is for the mentally ill to commit murder, let alone mass murder, you start telling me the tragic story of your sister, who didn't commit a mass public shooting.........

 

[flan327]

I pointed out how rare it is for the mentally ill to commit murder, let alone mass murder, you start telling me the tragic story of your sister, who didn't commit a mass public shooting.........

My STEP DAUGHTER

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