Do you support a 1% Federal Wealth Tax to pay down the $39T National Debt? (Poll)

[Nostra]

You have same problem many libs have

You want to ride on the backs of others who you are jealous of because they have more money than you

I say tax everyone and every dollar of income with no exemptions

That would put most tax consultants out of business along with most IRS agrnts

The percentage of taxation would be very low, single digits for sure

But you could not put the bite on your betters without hurting yourself also

Then reduce spending to equal income

In Libtard Land treating everyone the same isn’t fair.


That’s how far gone the Lunatic Cult is.

 

[Nostra]

If there is NO FEDERAL MONEY involved its off the Federal Budget.

Lets cut $1-TRILLION off the Federal Budget and send Welfare back to the states to fund.

We can't micromanage every state expenditure.

Where in the Constitution can we find the clause authorizing the govt to pay people to not work?

 

[Nostra]

Go ahead and run on that!

I’m not running for anything, Gilligan

But I’ll put you down for being OK with the way the govt shits on the Constitution.

 

[Nostra]

Oooooh…..you really got him good that time, Skippy.

Here’s your gold star for the day……now go sit down and finish eating your boogers.

 

[Couchpotato]

My father was a teenager when SS came into being. My mother was a child and never contributed to SS as she was a stay-at-home mother. He drew SS for 10 years until he died. My mother drew off his SS for another 20 years as a survivor because she never qualified for SS. It served their generation well.

Past history from the 1930s does not illustrate what SS became. People now live longer and have other means for living during retirement. That is the difference, in that SS evolved over time. I have no problem with discussing alternatives, but I don't like people like you using propaganda, hyperbole and outright bullshit to try to make your point. To do that, you must be a closet liberal. Use facts, not hyperbole.

Thanks for the anecdote. None of that speaks to what SS is or why the Government created it.

 

[Couchpotato]

When you cant make an argument point out a typo....

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Thanks for the anecdote. None of that speaks to what SS is or why the Government created it.

We all know the ******* history. You aren't telling anyone anything new. Don't you realize that? SS has evolved in the last 90 ******* years! If it was not for SS, my wife and I have our savings and a $500 a month retirement. She would also have no Medicare coverage.

What part of that are you missing? You can't just do away with something because it hasn't performed to your expectations.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

When you cant make an argument point out a typo....

I just wanted you to correct yourself. You didn't notice it, did you? Kiss off!

I noticed you never went back to correct it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I’m not running for anything, Gilligan

But I’ll put you down for being OK with the way the govt shits on the Constitution.

Well, I would if that was the case, which you and no one else has made or the courts would have ruled as such.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

We all know the ******* history. You aren't telling anyone anything new. Don't you realize that? SS has evolved in the last 90 ******* years! If it was not for SS, my wife and I have our savings and a $500 a month retirement. She would also have no Medicare coverage.

What part of that are you missing? You can't just do away with something because it hasn't performed to your expectations.

Sounds like your planning for the future was pretty lame. Bet you thought you were going to be secure until the 2020 election was stolen and Biden and Democrats passed the Green New Scam causing massive inflation and very high gas prices, while allowing 10s of millions of illegals to come into the country getting free shit, while you could barely make it. Next time you see a democrat you might want to tell them they arent wanted here anymore.

 

[kyzr]

Where in the Constitution can we find the clause authorizing the govt to pay people to not work?

So we agree that Welfare should go back to the states? States should put the deadbeats to work or no $$$.

That would cut $1T off the Federal budget.

 

[Couchpotato]

We all know the ******* history. You aren't telling anyone anything new. Don't you realize that? SS has evolved in the last 90 ******* years! If it was not for SS, my wife and I have our savings and a $500 a month retirement. She would also have no Medicare coverage.

Someone making 25k a year from 18-65 who never gets a raise in 47 years who invests just what SS takes out of their paycheck employee and employer in an S&P index fund at 8% (normal S&P is 10% annually) would retire with 1.7 million in their retirement fund. The return on that money would allow them to retire on 126k a year without touching the principle. If you and your wife would only have 500$ a month retirement without SS you might be retarded.

What part of that are you missing? You can't just do away with something because it hasn't performed to your expectations.

I want to do away with it because

A, it's not the Federal Governments job to fund your retirement

B, They are bad at it anyway

C, It's a massive wealth thief

D, It's not actually about funding a retirement and it's just another tax which the Government then mismanages.

I'm sorry that you are bad with money. There are tons of online resources you can access to get better. Also, you could have just given your money to a manager, and he would take care of it for you.

Here's a compromise. Those who need their Daddy (the US government ie you) to handle their financial future can opt into SS. Since according to you SS is just paying back what you're owed from paying in, the people who don't want to be involved with SS should be able to opt out without it affecting the program. All I want is what I've already paid in to be returned, actually you can keep it, if that's the price I have to pay to get out of it now. (BTW I'm 10 years from collecting so I would be losing a ton of money by doing that).

I don't know why you need the Government to force you to save some money for retirement. Your bank will ACH money to an investment account which would then be invested by your account manager. How is that any different than what the Government is doing minus the fact that if you die at 64 you just lose all that money you "paid in" for all those years and them getting to decide for you how much money you get to have from your account as well as when you can take it out.

 

[Couchpotato]

So we agree that Welfare should go back to the states? States should put the deadbeats to work or no $$$.

That would cut $1T off the Federal budget.

Welfare is managed by the states.... The states would just have to tax the populace of their state more to make up the delta the Fed is filling.

 

[Couchpotato]

I just wanted you to correct yourself. You didn't notice it, did you? Kiss off!

I noticed you never went back to correct it.

Because it's irrelevant to the post. You've yet to make an actual argument for SS. It's all whining, anecdotes and pedantic spelling corrections.

 

[kyzr]

Welfare is managed by the states.... The states would just have to tax the populace of their state more to make up the delta the Fed is filling.

Yep. Or put the deadbeats to work.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'm sorry that you are bad with money. There are tons of online resources you can access to get better. Also, you could have just given your money to a manager, and he would take care of it for you.

Here's a compromise. Those who need their Daddy (the US government ie you) to handle their financial future can opt into SS. Since according to you SS is just paying back what you're owed from paying in, the people who don't want to be involved with SS should be able to opt out without it affecting the program. All I want is what I've already paid in to be returned, actually you can keep it, if that's the price I have to pay to get out of it now. (BTW I'm 10 years from collecting so I would be losing a ton of money by doing that).

I don't know why you need the Government to force you to save some money for retirement. Your bank will ACH money to an investment account which would then be invested by your account manager. How is that any different than what the Government is doing minus the fact that if you die at 64 you just lose all that money you "paid in" for all those years and them getting to decide for you how much money you get to have from your account as well as when you can take it out.

You don't read very well do you? I said other than my savings! Why are you such a dumbass?

You can complain about past history all you want but that doesn't change the future. Propose a plan that is financially sound and convince your Congressman or someone else's to propose it. Nothings stopping you, but so far all I have seen is bitching with no solution.

 

[Dorian Mode]

And STOP sending Billions to cheating, Lying Minnesota Somalians.

Well actually I think they finally woke up and stopped sending $$$$$$$$$$$$$ to Minneapolis.

MN is a small state, and yet how many $billions goes to scams there? There are 49 other states to crack down on, and some are very large and incredibly corrupt, like CA and NY. If we shut down the dumocrap scams all over the country we could probably pay off the debt inside a decade, eliminate the federal income tax, and maybe even start fixing potholes.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

MN is a small state, and yet how many $billions goes to scams there? There are 49 other states to crack down on, and some are very large and incredibly corrupt, like CA and NY. If we shut down the dumocrap scams all over the country we could probably pay off the debt inside a decade, eliminate the federal income tax, and maybe even start fixing potholes.

By what measure?

 

[Dorian Mode]

By what measure?

Small sounded better and nicer than irrelevant and insignificant. I'll just call it what it really is: A Somalian Shithole. How's that?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Small sounded better and nicer than irrelevant and insignificant. I'll just call it what it really is: A Somalian Shithole. How's that?

Much better and more accurate, but only Minneapolis. From what I hear, the rest of the state is OK.