Do You Believe We Came From Monkeys?

[sealybobo]

If humans are so important how come we only appeared on the last day of the cosmic calendar? Not only the last day but the last hour of the last day. Don't give me that crap about how 1 billion years is like a day to god. That's a joke. What were the trilobites and dinosaurs all about then? Why did they disappear? Did they sin?

 

[SixFoot]

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How about life on other planets? Do Christians believe we are alone in the universe? This would be another reason to doubt religions. No way we are all there is.

'Are We Alone?' Churchill Concludes It's Likely Life Circles Other Suns

"I am not sufficiently conceited to think that my sun is the only one with a family of planets," he wrote. "With hundreds of thousands of nebulae, each containing thousands of millions of suns, the odds are enormous that there must be immense numbers which possess planets whose circumstances would not render life impossible."

But in 1939 Winston Churchill wrote, "I, for one, am not so immensely impressed by the success we are making of our civilization here that I am prepared to think we are the only spot in this immense universe which contains living, thinking creatures, or that we are the highest type of mental and physical development which has ever appeared in the vast compass of space and time."

But this is another thing that religion will get over. They'll say, "of course god made more life besides ours".

Well, this Christian absolutely believes that not only is there life elsewhere, but that the Bible also speaks to the idea.

I'm also willing to bet there are other lifeforms (much more advanced than we) who also believe in a One God.

Then the bible speaks to everything. It must be the greatest collections of ramblings if it actually covers this too. LOL. Where does it cover this? And I love it how the bible covers both arguments for everything too. Some Christians can show you where it says you shouldn't marry someone from another race, and I'm sure the book has a passage somewhere that says it's ok.

I would like to see a Christian who believes like you do argue with Christians who believe we are all there is.

I believe that there are other lifeforms that believe in gods. Why not? If it's something we can imagine why not them? And since it is an unknowable thing I bet those societies also have atheists.

Today I was listening to a woman on NPR talk about life elsewhere. She said something I've been saying. It is very unlikely we will look around us and see life. There may have been life there a few billion years ago and there might be life there a few billion years after we are gone. But the likelihood of life like us being close to us, is slim.

The Bible does not speak of aliens who live on other planets, but it does speak of a Spirit Being who “inhabits eternity”(Isaiah 57:15).

Extraterrestrial Life: What Does the Bible Say?

Here's a great scientific explanation for the global flood and fire catastrophe that all but annihilated humanity about 12,000-13,000 years ago, which is also what much of the most ancient writings found on most continents speak of.

Ancient stone carvings confirm how comet struck Earth in 10,950BC, sparking the rise of civilisations

This explains Noah's flood quite satisfactorily for me. It also vindicates my belief that Noah's was in fact, not the only surviving family on Earth, but merely of their local region (I also don't believe that Adam and Eve were the only, just the first).

Genesis 6:4 (first book)

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown."

Well, I don't believe in fairies either, so, this sounds more like a metaphor for someone else coming from somewhere else. Fine by me.

Revelation 21 (last book)

"Then I saw "a new heaven and a new earth," for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away"

A "new Earth" after another global catastrophe that all but wipes out humanity. I don't think any planets are just gonna meander on in at our convenience into a perfectly habitable orbit, so, sounds like a metaphor for colonizing another world to me. Sounds great, actually.


My mind is open and free. I am inclined to my faith in the All-Knowing, and perfectly comfortable with what ever age the Universe is, how we came to be here, or what the mechanics were in effecting the process. My heart and soul are not troubled but trifling and petty conflicts of opinions. The discovery is everything, and I'm just here to speak on it in my own way.

 

[sealybobo]

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How about life on other planets? Do Christians believe we are alone in the universe? This would be another reason to doubt religions. No way we are all there is.

'Are We Alone?' Churchill Concludes It's Likely Life Circles Other Suns

"I am not sufficiently conceited to think that my sun is the only one with a family of planets," he wrote. "With hundreds of thousands of nebulae, each containing thousands of millions of suns, the odds are enormous that there must be immense numbers which possess planets whose circumstances would not render life impossible."

But in 1939 Winston Churchill wrote, "I, for one, am not so immensely impressed by the success we are making of our civilization here that I am prepared to think we are the only spot in this immense universe which contains living, thinking creatures, or that we are the highest type of mental and physical development which has ever appeared in the vast compass of space and time."

But this is another thing that religion will get over. They'll say, "of course god made more life besides ours".

Well, this Christian absolutely believes that not only is there life elsewhere, but that the Bible also speaks to the idea.

I'm also willing to bet there are other lifeforms (much more advanced than we) who also believe in a One God.

Then the bible speaks to everything. It must be the greatest collections of ramblings if it actually covers this too. LOL. Where does it cover this? And I love it how the bible covers both arguments for everything too. Some Christians can show you where it says you shouldn't marry someone from another race, and I'm sure the book has a passage somewhere that says it's ok.

I would like to see a Christian who believes like you do argue with Christians who believe we are all there is.

I believe that there are other lifeforms that believe in gods. Why not? If it's something we can imagine why not them? And since it is an unknowable thing I bet those societies also have atheists.

Today I was listening to a woman on NPR talk about life elsewhere. She said something I've been saying. It is very unlikely we will look around us and see life. There may have been life there a few billion years ago and there might be life there a few billion years after we are gone. But the likelihood of life like us being close to us, is slim.

The Bible does not speak of aliens who live on other planets, but it does speak of a Spirit Being who “inhabits eternity”(Isaiah 57:15).

Extraterrestrial Life: What Does the Bible Say?

Here's a great scientific explanation for the global flood and fire catastrophe that all but annihilated humanity about 12,000-13,000 years ago, which is also what much of the most ancient writings found on most continents speak of.

Ancient stone carvings confirm how comet struck Earth in 10,950BC, sparking the rise of civilisations

This explains Noah's flood quite satisfactorily for me. It also vindicates my belief that Noah's was in fact, not the only surviving family on Earth, but merely of their local region (I also don't believe that Adam and Eve were the only, just the first).

Genesis 6:4 (first book)

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown."

Well, I don't believe in fairies either, so, this sounds more like a metaphor for someone else coming from somewhere else. Fine by me.

Revelation 21 (last book)

"Then I saw "a new heaven and a new earth," for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away"

A "new Earth" after another global catastrophe that all but wipes out humanity. I don't think any planets are just gonna meander on in at our convenience into a perfectly habitable orbit, so, sounds like a metaphor for colonizing another world to me. Sounds great, actually.


My mind is open and free. I am inclined to my faith in the All-Knowing, and perfectly comfortable with what ever age the Universe is, how we came to be here, or what the mechanics were in effecting the process. My heart and soul are not troubled but trifling and petty conflicts of opinions. The discovery is everything, and I'm just here to speak on it in my own way.

Noah was a fact? God told him to build a boat and put 2 of every kind on it? That's not just a story dude?

And I'm reading your link. Pretty interesting.

Before the strike, vast areas of wild wheat and barley had allowed nomadic hunters in the Middle East to establish permanent base camps. But the difficult climate conditions following the impact forced communities to come together and work out new ways of maintaining the crops, through watering and selective breeding. Thus farming began, allowing the rise of the first towns.

Edinburgh researchers said the carvings appear to have remained important to the people of Gobekli Tepe for millennia, suggesting that the event and cold climate that followed likely had a very serious impact.

What I'm reading is a story about how a comet hit, not about a great flood or how a god told one guy to make a boat and round up all the animals. You believe the Noah story literally?

 

[sealybobo]

Gobekli Tepe, is thought to be the world's oldest temple site, which dates from around 9,000BC, predating Stonehenge by around 6,000 years.

"If you consider that, according to astronomers, this giant comet probably arrived in the inner solar system some 20 to 30 thousand years ago, and it would have been a very visible and dominant feature of the night sky, it is hard to see how ancient people could have ignored this given the likely consequences."

So they had been seeing this comet coming for 20,000 years getting closer and closer and closer every year.

 

[SixFoot]

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How about life on other planets? Do Christians believe we are alone in the universe? This would be another reason to doubt religions. No way we are all there is.

'Are We Alone?' Churchill Concludes It's Likely Life Circles Other Suns

"I am not sufficiently conceited to think that my sun is the only one with a family of planets," he wrote. "With hundreds of thousands of nebulae, each containing thousands of millions of suns, the odds are enormous that there must be immense numbers which possess planets whose circumstances would not render life impossible."

But in 1939 Winston Churchill wrote, "I, for one, am not so immensely impressed by the success we are making of our civilization here that I am prepared to think we are the only spot in this immense universe which contains living, thinking creatures, or that we are the highest type of mental and physical development which has ever appeared in the vast compass of space and time."

But this is another thing that religion will get over. They'll say, "of course god made more life besides ours".

Well, this Christian absolutely believes that not only is there life elsewhere, but that the Bible also speaks to the idea.

I'm also willing to bet there are other lifeforms (much more advanced than we) who also believe in a One God.

Then the bible speaks to everything. It must be the greatest collections of ramblings if it actually covers this too. LOL. Where does it cover this? And I love it how the bible covers both arguments for everything too. Some Christians can show you where it says you shouldn't marry someone from another race, and I'm sure the book has a passage somewhere that says it's ok.

I would like to see a Christian who believes like you do argue with Christians who believe we are all there is.

I believe that there are other lifeforms that believe in gods. Why not? If it's something we can imagine why not them? And since it is an unknowable thing I bet those societies also have atheists.

Today I was listening to a woman on NPR talk about life elsewhere. She said something I've been saying. It is very unlikely we will look around us and see life. There may have been life there a few billion years ago and there might be life there a few billion years after we are gone. But the likelihood of life like us being close to us, is slim.

The Bible does not speak of aliens who live on other planets, but it does speak of a Spirit Being who “inhabits eternity”(Isaiah 57:15).

Extraterrestrial Life: What Does the Bible Say?

Here's a great scientific explanation for the global flood and fire catastrophe that all but annihilated humanity about 12,000-13,000 years ago, which is also what much of the most ancient writings found on most continents speak of.

Ancient stone carvings confirm how comet struck Earth in 10,950BC, sparking the rise of civilisations

This explains Noah's flood quite satisfactorily for me. It also vindicates my belief that Noah's was in fact, not the only surviving family on Earth, but merely of their local region (I also don't believe that Adam and Eve were the only, just the first).

Genesis 6:4 (first book)

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown."

Well, I don't believe in fairies either, so, this sounds more like a metaphor for someone else coming from somewhere else. Fine by me.

Revelation 21 (last book)

"Then I saw "a new heaven and a new earth," for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away"

A "new Earth" after another global catastrophe that all but wipes out humanity. I don't think any planets are just gonna meander on in at our convenience into a perfectly habitable orbit, so, sounds like a metaphor for colonizing another world to me. Sounds great, actually.


My mind is open and free. I am inclined to my faith in the All-Knowing, and perfectly comfortable with what ever age the Universe is, how we came to be here, or what the mechanics were in effecting the process. My heart and soul are not troubled but trifling and petty conflicts of opinions. The discovery is everything, and I'm just here to speak on it in my own way.

Noah was a fact? God told him to build a boat and put 2 of every kind on it? That's not just a story dude?

And I'm reading your link. Pretty interesting.

Before the strike, vast areas of wild wheat and barley had allowed nomadic hunters in the Middle East to establish permanent base camps. But the difficult climate conditions following the impact forced communities to come together and work out new ways of maintaining the crops, through watering and selective breeding. Thus farming began, allowing the rise of the first towns.

Edinburgh researchers said the carvings appear to have remained important to the people of Gobekli Tepe for millennia, suggesting that the event and cold climate that followed likely had a very serious impact.

What I'm reading is a story about how a comet hit, not about a great flood or how a god told one guy to make a boat and round up all the animals. You believe the Noah story literally?

Not a "comet" strike, but many strikes due to its fragmentation upon contact with the atmosphere. The evidence for the event is found not only in all the ancient writings, but also all across North America, where many of (also according to the ancient Hopi Natives) the comet fragments rained down.

Widespread platinum anomaly documented at the Younger Dryas onset in North American sedimentary sequences.

The reason this is directly related to the flood is the fact that the comet fragments likely caused the end of the last ice age, melting the vast ice sheets, causing global sea levels to rise by dozens and dozens of feet within a very short geologic time, endangering everyone and everything.

Noah is but one example (the most well known in this case, in this group) of ancient writings found everywhere on Earth that allude to the exact same extinction event during the exact same time (if he took two of every animal, it was either two of each from his local region, or he had access to a DNA bank and cloned them all after he got off the ship. Again, I don't believe in fairies either.).

The flood absolutely happened if you ask me. Some Christians might not like the finer details that go in to the full spectrum of the event, but they likely believe the Earth is only 6,000 years old anyway, and I'm not in the least bit damaged by their personal beliefs.

 

[danielpalos]

We're primates that developed from a common ancestor 5-7 million years ago that yes was an ape.

That is a fact....The evidence is very strong.

Not a fact, it is a theory, big difference. And if we descended from an ape, why are there still apes?

We are Apes; we merely need to be, Great.

 

[SixFoot]

We're primates that developed from a common ancestor 5-7 million years ago that yes was an ape.

That is a fact....The evidence is very strong.

Not a fact, it is a theory, big difference. And if we descended from an ape, why are there still apes?

We are Apes; we merely need to be, Great.

I'd rather be Grape.

 

[ScienceRocks]

We're primates that developed from a common ancestor 5-7 million years ago that yes was an ape.

That is a fact....The evidence is very strong.

Not a fact, it is a theory, big difference. And if we descended from an ape, why are there still apes?

We are Apes; we merely need to be, Great.

I'd rather be Grape.

That right there is about as far as an religious fascist ability to consider the evidence goes...Truly inferior human beings and why I support some form of intelligence based(Gene therapy) eugenics.

 

[peaceful warrior]

We're primates that developed from a common ancestor 5-7 million years ago that yes was an ape.

That is a fact....The evidence is very strong.

Not a fact, it is a theory, big difference. And if we descended from an ape, why are there still apes?

We are Apes; we merely need to be, Great.

I would take it even a step further. We come from the same common ancestor. And I mean all of us ( bees, snakes, extinct dinos, birds, your fluffy dog, tomatos, palm trees, ants...)
There's a scientific evidence that we have a lot of genes in common with all other living things on the planet, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together and come to the simple and yet astounding conclusion: we are basically one species who originated from the same common biological ancestor eons ago.

Just think about it, my fellow earthlings (plants, beasts and humans) we are all related by our genes. Personally, the idea of humans being realted to all living things roaming across our "pale blue dot" is mind-boggling, but it's true and it greatly increases my appreciation for life.

What about you, Democrats and Republicans? In the great scheme of things your little games seem so insignificant (petty fights over nothing), dont they?

from Russia with love

 

[SixFoot]

We're primates that developed from a common ancestor 5-7 million years ago that yes was an ape.

That is a fact....The evidence is very strong.

Not a fact, it is a theory, big difference. And if we descended from an ape, why are there still apes?

We are Apes; we merely need to be, Great.

 

[peaceful warrior]

Here's a great scientific explanation for the global flood and fire catastrophe that all but annihilated humanity about 12,000-13,000 years ago, which is also what much of the most ancient writings found on most continents speak of.

Check this out, a truly fascinating story about our past:

 

[SixFoot]

Here's a great scientific explanation for the global flood and fire catastrophe that all but annihilated humanity about 12,000-13,000 years ago, which is also what much of the most ancient writings found on most continents speak of.

Check this out, a truly fascinating story about our past:

Well, I'm not watching 3 hours of Rogan, so.... lol just lemme know if this is the one where he says we all came from 'shroom-eating primates?

 

[sealybobo]

We're primates that developed from a common ancestor 5-7 million years ago that yes was an ape.

That is a fact....The evidence is very strong.

Not a fact, it is a theory, big difference. And if we descended from an ape, why are there still apes?

We are Apes; we merely need to be, Great.

I would take it even a step further. We come from the same common ancestor. And I mean all of us ( bees, snakes, extinct dinos, birds, your fluffy dog, tomatos, palm trees, ants...)
There's a scientific evidence that we have a lot of genes in common with all other living things on the planet, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together and come to the simple and yet astounding conclusion: we are basically one species who originated from the same common biological ancestor eons ago.

Just think about it, my fellow earthlings (plants, beasts and humans) we are all related by our genes. Personally, the idea of humans being realted to all living things roaming across our "pale blue dot" is mind-boggling, but it's true and it greatly increases my appreciation for life.

What about you, Democrats and Republicans? In the great scheme of things your little games seem so insignificant (petty fights over nothing), dont they?

from Russia with love

This is how they keep us down. They divide us with nonsense. Us Democrats agree with you 100% and it's the Republicans who doubt that solid science because it doesn't jive with their religion. They want to keep us dumb and proof is how their sheeple deny global warming and evolution.

And our "games" are about quality of life. The Republican way is every man for himself survival of the fittest and democrats understand we are all in this together and we understand the value in numbers, like with healthcare. And the value in government. A good government regulates healthcare giants from letting people who can't pay die.

The game Republicans are playing is going to leave you penniless when you die. Are you ready to play the game called cut your social security and medicare 30%?

 

[SixFoot]

We're primates that developed from a common ancestor 5-7 million years ago that yes was an ape.

That is a fact....The evidence is very strong.

Not a fact, it is a theory, big difference. And if we descended from an ape, why are there still apes?

We are Apes; we merely need to be, Great.

I would take it even a step further. We come from the same common ancestor. And I mean all of us ( bees, snakes, extinct dinos, birds, your fluffy dog, tomatos, palm trees, ants...)
There's a scientific evidence that we have a lot of genes in common with all other living things on the planet, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together and come to the simple and yet astounding conclusion: we are basically one species who originated from the same common biological ancestor eons ago.

Just think about it, my fellow earthlings (plants, beasts and humans) we are all related by our genes. Personally, the idea of humans being realted to all living things roaming across our "pale blue dot" is mind-boggling, but it's true and it greatly increases my appreciation for life.

What about you, Democrats and Republicans? In the great scheme of things your little games seem so insignificant (petty fights over nothing), dont they?

from Russia with love

This is how they keep us down. They divide us with nonsense. Us Democrats agree with you 100% and it's the Republicans who doubt that solid science because it doesn't jive with their religion. They want to keep us dumb and proof is how their sheeple deny global warming and evolution.

And our "games" are about quality of life. The Republican way is every man for himself survival of the fittest and democrats understand we are all in this together and we understand the value in numbers, like with healthcare. And the value in government. A good government regulates healthcare giants from letting people who can't pay die.

The game Republicans are playing is going to leave you penniless when you die. Are you ready to play the game called cut your social security and medicare 30%?

 

[sealybobo]

I know there are similarities but I think they are coincidental, like cats and seals both have whiskers. But cats didn't come from seals or vice a versa.

Scientists estimate that the hominid lineage diverged from the ape lineage 5 to 8 million years ago. Homo sapiens, the species to which we belong, has existed for about 100,000 years.

 

[sealybobo]

I know there are similarities but I think they are coincidental, like cats and seals both have whiskers. But cats didn't come from seals or vice a versa.

Scientists estimate that the hominid lineage diverged from the ape lineage 5 to 8 million years ago. Homo sapiens, the species to which we belong, has existed for about 100,000 years.

Dogs have whiskers too you know.

Seals and the rather incorrectly named “sea lions” are carnivores, very similar to land predators. These animals are not in any way closely related to whales, but they do have a surprisingly close link to modern bears, dogs, and weasels. Cats compose an entirely different sub-order of the carnivore group known as Feliformes, which are not represented in water.

When you see one of these flipper-equipped aquatic animals, you should remember you are basically looking at a very specifically evolved, fish-eating water canine. When examined, the flippers of some pinnipeds will show remaining hind claws that rather resemble human nails. Maybe it’s time to start calling sea lions “sea bears” or “water dogs.”

 

[there4eyeM]

Humans did not come from monkeys, all life evolved together. Humans may have shared stages with current species of monkeys and apes, but of what animal is that not true? We're all just hangin' out on the tree (of life).

 

[MikeK]

No chance. Evolution may account for the differences within a species, but it does not account for new species.

Humans are not a new species. Humans are official, card-carrying members of the primate species. Our closest lower-level primate relative is the chimpanzee.

Humans are a highly advanced primate sub-species.

 

[sealybobo]

Humans did not come from monkeys, all life evolved together. Humans may have shared stages with current species of monkeys and apes, but of what animal is that not true? We're all just hangin' out on the tree (of life).

Scientists now believe between 5-8 million years ago, we were ******* monkeys. Then something went horribly wrong or incredibly right depending on how you look at things.

I think the planet would be better off had we stayed monkeys. Every other animal would be happier except dogs and cats of course.

 

[harmonica]

if not evolution, then you must believe a fully formed human just ''appeared''....??