Do you agree with Obama?

[LoneLaugher]

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

Obama says,

"We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam,"

What part of that do you disagree with?

Why then can he not reference Islamic extremism, which sets it apart from other Muslims?

After all, he has no trouble saying right wing extremists, but then, he thinks that all those on the right are extremists.

That's awesome.

Non Mulsim ( primarily RW ) extremists have killed more Americans here than Muslim extremists have since 9-11.

How many times has Obama used the term RW extremist?

 

[LoneLaugher]

The point is not to be PC, the point is to take the excuse of using the banner of a Religion away from sick sadistic twits and leave them with just youre a sick sadistic twit.

And anyway, at the end of the day this is all arguing over minutia. It effects his Military Strategists ZERO.

So why the **** whine about it, is anyone's best guess.

Calm down, guy, didn't mean to make you so upset. When you are dodging who is responsible for the war, you aren't focused on the war, it clearly does reduce the effectiveness of the effort. It's totally important to specifically identify the enemy to defeat them. We aren't fighting all sick sadistic twits, we are fighting the Muslim ones. They are the ones killing people. And Obama has a clearly incoherent strategy to back that observation up

Are you meaning to say that the military is currently sitting on its hands waiting for obama to say "islam?"

you really dont think these things through, huh?

No, that isn't what I said. You're another sad product of our government school system that your reading comprehension is so low. Sad you want to inflict what was done to you on your children.

At least you admitted what a patsy rube you are that you think it's just the government's job to protect you

This is a nice attack and all, but it really doesnt address your disconnect.

Obama has said that no military advisor has told him its stopping them from implementing any of their strategies because he doesnt say "radical islam."


On what planet does internet poster "kaz" negate that logistical fact?

I think Obama actually believes that he can avert terrorism by not saying the words radical Islamic extremism.

That's because you are ridiculously shallow.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

Obama says,

"We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam,"

What part of that do you disagree with?

Why then can he not reference Islamic extremism, which sets it apart from other Muslims?

After all, he has no trouble saying right wing extremists, but then, he thinks that all those on the right are extremists.

That's awesome.

Non Mulsim ( primarily RW ) extremists have killed more Americans here than Muslim extremists have since 9-11.

How many times has Obama used the term RW extremist?

Really? Do tell.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Calm down, guy, didn't mean to make you so upset. When you are dodging who is responsible for the war, you aren't focused on the war, it clearly does reduce the effectiveness of the effort. It's totally important to specifically identify the enemy to defeat them. We aren't fighting all sick sadistic twits, we are fighting the Muslim ones. They are the ones killing people. And Obama has a clearly incoherent strategy to back that observation up

Are you meaning to say that the military is currently sitting on its hands waiting for obama to say "islam?"

you really dont think these things through, huh?

No, that isn't what I said. You're another sad product of our government school system that your reading comprehension is so low. Sad you want to inflict what was done to you on your children.

At least you admitted what a patsy rube you are that you think it's just the government's job to protect you

This is a nice attack and all, but it really doesnt address your disconnect.

Obama has said that no military advisor has told him its stopping them from implementing any of their strategies because he doesnt say "radical islam."


On what planet does internet poster "kaz" negate that logistical fact?

I think Obama actually believes that he can avert terrorism by not saying the words radical Islamic extremism.

I think Obama's just trying to deflect from that he has an incoherent, inconsistent, limited policy on terrorism. If he clearly identified the enemy, he would have to clearly fight it. And he doesn't want to

I think

We'll there's your problem.

 

[G.T.]

Sprinkle some weed over the middle east and throw a McDonalds, Burger King, Dunkin Donuts on every damn corner and boom. Problem solved.

Im being coy, of course....but theres actually a deeper strategy there if anyone cared to flesh it out.

The problem is not money, or resources.

The problem is communication.

Sounds gay, right? Its........not so far fetched.

Oh please.. communication? You can't be serious. You think that people that chop of heads, burn people alive, stone people, throws homosexuals off rooftops just need to be better communicated with?

No, you misunderstand.

If you can continue in a cordial way, fine and I will.

But if you feel a devolved state of insult hurling non conversation coming about..



id rather not

Perhaps I misunderstand then.... I'll concede that point.. maybe. I and I hurled no insults... that I am aware of?

Ok,

What I meant by communication was not that we can go and talk to or reason with the brainwashed ***** that are already so far gone that they cut heads off(funny sounding, if it werent eerily true).

But mental illness is rare, Ill begin there.....these folks are not all mentally ill or something, they are BRAINWASHED.

With an ideaology.


Typically, its easier to brainwash within a more ignorant society....AND, from a younger age.

Those ^ two things, are very solvable and very real solutions and what I had meant by "communication."

When theres pockets of these folks so scattered and in many cases, so lone wolf.....its time to start infiltrating these poor ideas themselves, before they continue to spread......at the same time as waging war on the existing radicals.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

Obama says,

"We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam,"

What part of that do you disagree with?

I get that he doesn't want to use the word Islam, but I don't see why he can't refer to them as terrorists who pervert Islam.

That will not satisfy the Trumpeters who want to believe Islam itself is the enemy, but ... who cares.

He does.

 

[kaz]

Obama is right... Our biggest ally in fighting racial Islam is moderate Islam...

Here's a clue. Any Muslim who is offended at identifying a Muslim who murders people as a "radical" ... is a radical ...

The point is not to be PC, the point is to take the excuse of using the banner of a Religion away from sick sadistic twits and leave them with just youre a sick sadistic twit.

And anyway, at the end of the day this is all arguing over minutia. It effects his Military Strategists ZERO.

So why the **** whine about it, is anyone's best guess.

Calm down, guy, didn't mean to make you so upset. When you are dodging who is responsible for the war, you aren't focused on the war, it clearly does reduce the effectiveness of the effort. It's totally important to specifically identify the enemy to defeat them. We aren't fighting all sick sadistic twits, we are fighting the Muslim ones. They are the ones killing people. And Obama has a clearly incoherent strategy to back that observation up

No one is dodging who is responsible for the war. The actors acting are responsible, not an entire religion. Why you didn't learn that lesson after we wrongly interned Japanese American citizens? What "muslims" should be targeted in your opinion?

Strawman. I keep saying it's not the religion, it's the radicals. Get my position right before you ask more questions based on your wrong statements of my view

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Sprinkle some weed over the middle east and throw a McDonalds, Burger King, Dunkin Donuts on every damn corner and boom. Problem solved.

Im being coy, of course....but theres actually a deeper strategy there if anyone cared to flesh it out.

The problem is not money, or resources.

The problem is communication.

Sounds gay, right? Its........not so far fetched.

Oh please.. communication? You can't be serious. You think that people that chop of heads, burn people alive, stone people, throws homosexuals off rooftops just need to be better communicated with?

No, you misunderstand.

If you can continue in a cordial way, fine and I will.

But if you feel a devolved state of insult hurling non conversation coming about..



id rather not

Perhaps I misunderstand then.... I'll concede that point.. maybe. I and I hurled no insults... that I am aware of?

Ok,

What I meant by communication was not that we can go and talk to or reason with the brainwashed ***** that are already so far gone that they cut heads off(funny sounding, if it werent eerily true).

But mental illness is rare, Ill begin there.....these folks are not all mentally ill or something, they are BRAINWASHED.

With an ideaology.


Typically, its easier to brainwash within a more ignorant society....AND, from a younger age.

Those ^ two things, are very solvable and very real solutions and what I had meant by "communication."

When theres pockets of these folks so scattered and in many cases, so lone wolf.....its time to start infiltrating these poor ideas themselves, before they continue to spread......at the same time as waging war on the existing radicals.

Good point.. I tend to agree. That whole part of the world is fucked up beyond belief. Despots, crazies, etc., etc. Winning over the hearts and minds... II just don't know how you do that when children from birth are taught this fucked up shit.

Geeze.. what a mess.

 

[irosie91]

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

Obama is right... Our biggest ally in fighting racial Islam is moderate Islam...

Now your ilk have no clue about this since, Racial Islam (as you call it ) was on its knees during 911... It was the NeoCons and GOP which has brought them where they are today..

Just Maggie Thatcher made the IRA grow exponentially in size by her stance in Northern Ireland (She was described as the IRA's biggest recruitment tool), Bush Jr was the biggest recruitment tool for Radical Islam in the ME...

Trump is another clueless idiot in this...

The thing is, you keep on forgetting what ISIS want, so you keep on giving them their wish...

Trump is actually trying to surrender ground to ISIS, he is doing things that make them stronger, larger and bigger problem...
Well done surrender monkeys...

Lies.

Cowboy ted------sorry PARDNER----but you know nothing about islam or the middle east or the fantasy thing called "radical islam"

 

[kaz]

Are you meaning to say that the military is currently sitting on its hands waiting for obama to say "islam?"

you really dont think these things through, huh?

No, that isn't what I said. You're another sad product of our government school system that your reading comprehension is so low. Sad you want to inflict what was done to you on your children.

At least you admitted what a patsy rube you are that you think it's just the government's job to protect you

This is a nice attack and all, but it really doesnt address your disconnect.

Obama has said that no military advisor has told him its stopping them from implementing any of their strategies because he doesnt say "radical islam."


On what planet does internet poster "kaz" negate that logistical fact?

I think Obama actually believes that he can avert terrorism by not saying the words radical Islamic extremism.

I think Obama's just trying to deflect from that he has an incoherent, inconsistent, limited policy on terrorism. If he clearly identified the enemy, he would have to clearly fight it. And he doesn't want to

I think

We'll there's your problem.

 

[G.T.]

Sprinkle some weed over the middle east and throw a McDonalds, Burger King, Dunkin Donuts on every damn corner and boom. Problem solved.

Im being coy, of course....but theres actually a deeper strategy there if anyone cared to flesh it out.

The problem is not money, or resources.

The problem is communication.

Sounds gay, right? Its........not so far fetched.

Oh please.. communication? You can't be serious. You think that people that chop of heads, burn people alive, stone people, throws homosexuals off rooftops just need to be better communicated with?

No, you misunderstand.

If you can continue in a cordial way, fine and I will.

But if you feel a devolved state of insult hurling non conversation coming about..



id rather not

Perhaps I misunderstand then.... I'll concede that point.. maybe. I and I hurled no insults... that I am aware of?

Ok,

What I meant by communication was not that we can go and talk to or reason with the brainwashed ***** that are already so far gone that they cut heads off(funny sounding, if it werent eerily true).

But mental illness is rare, Ill begin there.....these folks are not all mentally ill or something, they are BRAINWASHED.

With an ideaology.


Typically, its easier to brainwash within a more ignorant society....AND, from a younger age.

Those ^ two things, are very solvable and very real solutions and what I had meant by "communication."

When theres pockets of these folks so scattered and in many cases, so lone wolf.....its time to start infiltrating these poor ideas themselves, before they continue to spread......at the same time as waging war on the existing radicals.

Good point.. I tend to agree. That whole part of the world is fucked up beyond belief. Despots, crazies, etc., etc. Winning over the hearts and minds... II just don't know how you do that when children from birth are taught this fucked up shit.

Geeze.. what a mess.

Smoke them up.

Which is a solution masked as a joke.

Meaning, teach them how nice 1st world living can be (i.e. spread capitalism over there like a gypsie on steroids, YES starting with McDonalds).


This hilarity even happened in China.


Started seeing McDonalds' spread, followed by a multitude of American born businesses.....and boom, they begin engaging Capitalism and slightly veer off the strict communist path.


So, Im half kidding. lol

 

[irosie91]

Obama is right... Our biggest ally in fighting racial Islam is moderate Islam...

Here's a clue. Any Muslim who is offended at identifying a Muslim who murders people as a "radical" ... is a radical ...

The point is not to be PC, the point is to take the excuse of using the banner of a Religion away from sick sadistic twits and leave them with just youre a sick sadistic twit.

And anyway, at the end of the day this is all arguing over minutia. It effects his Military Strategists ZERO.

So why the **** whine about it, is anyone's best guess.

Calm down, guy, didn't mean to make you so upset. When you are dodging who is responsible for the war, you aren't focused on the war, it clearly does reduce the effectiveness of the effort. It's totally important to specifically identify the enemy to defeat them. We aren't fighting all sick sadistic twits, we are fighting the Muslim ones. They are the ones killing people. And Obama has a clearly incoherent strategy to back that observation up

No one is dodging who is responsible for the war. The actors acting are responsible, not an entire religion. Why you didn't learn that lesson after we wrongly interned Japanese American citizens? What "muslims" should be targeted in your opinion?

Strawman. I keep saying it's not the religion, it's the radicals. Get my position right before you ask more questions based on your wrong statements of my view

I got a statement------yours is something like saying ----lets say in the year 1500------which is important-----shortly before the CONQUEST of the NEW WORLD------THE INQUISITION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CATHOLICISM ----IT IS "RADICAL CATHOLICISM"

 

[irosie91]

I introduced myself and included my background "culture". My statement is
clear ------I added that your statement
"POVERTY" does it is a platitude and suggests that you have a less than adequate
education &/or cultural basis for any insight at all into what "DOES IT..."

Again I don't know what you are talking about, I never mentioned poverty in this thread

oh----I thought you did----I will have to search back-----I hate having to do that. I though you implied that social issues that lead to "terrorism" are the product of POVERTY

 

[LoneLaugher]

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

Obama says,

"We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam,"

What part of that do you disagree with?

Why then can he not reference Islamic extremism, which sets it apart from other Muslims?

After all, he has no trouble saying right wing extremists, but then, he thinks that all those on the right are extremists.

That's awesome.

Non Mulsim ( primarily RW ) extremists have killed more Americans here than Muslim extremists have since 9-11.

How many times has Obama used the term RW extremist?

Really? Do tell.

Do tell? You need some links to this common knowledge?

Maybe later....

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Oh please.. communication? You can't be serious. You think that people that chop of heads, burn people alive, stone people, throws homosexuals off rooftops just need to be better communicated with?

No, you misunderstand.

If you can continue in a cordial way, fine and I will.

But if you feel a devolved state of insult hurling non conversation coming about..



id rather not

Perhaps I misunderstand then.... I'll concede that point.. maybe. I and I hurled no insults... that I am aware of?

Ok,

What I meant by communication was not that we can go and talk to or reason with the brainwashed ***** that are already so far gone that they cut heads off(funny sounding, if it werent eerily true).

But mental illness is rare, Ill begin there.....these folks are not all mentally ill or something, they are BRAINWASHED.

With an ideaology.


Typically, its easier to brainwash within a more ignorant society....AND, from a younger age.

Those ^ two things, are very solvable and very real solutions and what I had meant by "communication."

When theres pockets of these folks so scattered and in many cases, so lone wolf.....its time to start infiltrating these poor ideas themselves, before they continue to spread......at the same time as waging war on the existing radicals.

Good point.. I tend to agree. That whole part of the world is fucked up beyond belief. Despots, crazies, etc., etc. Winning over the hearts and minds... II just don't know how you do that when children from birth are taught this fucked up shit.

Geeze.. what a mess.

Smoke them up.

Which is a solution masked as a joke.

Meaning, teach them how nice 1st world living can be (i.e. spread capitalism over there like a gypsie on steroids, YES starting with McDonalds).


This hilarity even happened in China.


Started seeing McDonalds' spread, followed by a multitude of American born businesses.....and boom, they begin engaging Capitalism and slightly veer off the strict communist path.


So, Im half kidding. lol

That was the ultimate goal of going into Iraq.

 

[G.T.]

No, you misunderstand.

If you can continue in a cordial way, fine and I will.

But if you feel a devolved state of insult hurling non conversation coming about..



id rather not

Perhaps I misunderstand then.... I'll concede that point.. maybe. I and I hurled no insults... that I am aware of?

Ok,

What I meant by communication was not that we can go and talk to or reason with the brainwashed ***** that are already so far gone that they cut heads off(funny sounding, if it werent eerily true).

But mental illness is rare, Ill begin there.....these folks are not all mentally ill or something, they are BRAINWASHED.

With an ideaology.


Typically, its easier to brainwash within a more ignorant society....AND, from a younger age.

Those ^ two things, are very solvable and very real solutions and what I had meant by "communication."

When theres pockets of these folks so scattered and in many cases, so lone wolf.....its time to start infiltrating these poor ideas themselves, before they continue to spread......at the same time as waging war on the existing radicals.

Good point.. I tend to agree. That whole part of the world is fucked up beyond belief. Despots, crazies, etc., etc. Winning over the hearts and minds... II just don't know how you do that when children from birth are taught this fucked up shit.

Geeze.. what a mess.

Smoke them up.

Which is a solution masked as a joke.

Meaning, teach them how nice 1st world living can be (i.e. spread capitalism over there like a gypsie on steroids, YES starting with McDonalds).


This hilarity even happened in China.


Started seeing McDonalds' spread, followed by a multitude of American born businesses.....and boom, they begin engaging Capitalism and slightly veer off the strict communist path.


So, Im half kidding. lol

That was the ultimate goal of going into Iraq.

A worthy goal, if properly implemented.

 

[irosie91]

new term? EXTREMIST MUSLIM? -----can someone provide a definition?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

Obama says,

"We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam,"

What part of that do you disagree with?

Why then can he not reference Islamic extremism, which sets it apart from other Muslims?

After all, he has no trouble saying right wing extremists, but then, he thinks that all those on the right are extremists.

That's awesome.

Non Mulsim ( primarily RW ) extremists have killed more Americans here than Muslim extremists have since 9-11.

How many times has Obama used the term RW extremist?

Really? Do tell.

Do tell? You need some links to this common knowledge?

Maybe later....

Typical non response. You say something, no backup, when asked, politely, to back it up, you hurl an insult. It is so because everyone knows it is not an answer.. it isn't like I'm asking for proof that water is wet.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Perhaps I misunderstand then.... I'll concede that point.. maybe. I and I hurled no insults... that I am aware of?

Ok,

What I meant by communication was not that we can go and talk to or reason with the brainwashed ***** that are already so far gone that they cut heads off(funny sounding, if it werent eerily true).

But mental illness is rare, Ill begin there.....these folks are not all mentally ill or something, they are BRAINWASHED.

With an ideaology.


Typically, its easier to brainwash within a more ignorant society....AND, from a younger age.

Those ^ two things, are very solvable and very real solutions and what I had meant by "communication."

When theres pockets of these folks so scattered and in many cases, so lone wolf.....its time to start infiltrating these poor ideas themselves, before they continue to spread......at the same time as waging war on the existing radicals.

Good point.. I tend to agree. That whole part of the world is fucked up beyond belief. Despots, crazies, etc., etc. Winning over the hearts and minds... II just don't know how you do that when children from birth are taught this fucked up shit.

Geeze.. what a mess.

Smoke them up.

Which is a solution masked as a joke.

Meaning, teach them how nice 1st world living can be (i.e. spread capitalism over there like a gypsie on steroids, YES starting with McDonalds).


This hilarity even happened in China.


Started seeing McDonalds' spread, followed by a multitude of American born businesses.....and boom, they begin engaging Capitalism and slightly veer off the strict communist path.


So, Im half kidding. lol

That was the ultimate goal of going into Iraq.

A worthy goal, if properly implemented.

Agreed.... the mission was noble, the execution left a lot to be desired.

 

[G.T.]

how many of these fuzzy bearded franzz are gunna lose their religion faster than bill cosby can slip a roofy.....once we show them what julia roberts' tits looked like in pretty woman