Do you agree with Obama?

[Ame®icano]

He wont say it???

Make him say it.

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[AntonToo]

People who believe women cannot be allowed to go to school or drive a car are Islamic Extremists, some maybe even violent. But that doesn't mean they had something to do with killing people or that we are at war with them.

I don't think there is anything to demands that the shootings be explicitly broad-brushed to Islam than basic bigotry. Middle east is socially and economically backward and how they practice religion is a reflection, not a cause of it. Just as Christianity and Judaism as they are practiced are not causes, but reflections of societies.

anton----you know virtually nothing. I am a jew by virtue of having jewish parents---both born in the USA----and firmly liberal secular. ----so that's me-----I consider divulging that fact
VITAL to understanding my POV-----I grew up in a VERY VERY white bread town----protestant at its base-----a bit Nazi-----some of the local yokes boasted kinship to pre 1776
colonial patriots. ------VERY GOOD PEOPLE----not a single "colored" person in town----(the local yokels called 'em ----N^%%ahs) The biggest events in my childhood were ---MEMORIAL DAY, FOURTH OF JULY---thanks giving and Halloween ---of course Christmas and Easter but not something my relatives actually celebrated. Until I was twelve---firmly convinced that "the pilgrims invented democracy" But the fact that
my parents were firm LIBERALS took me off the path------I befriended the friendless-----which in my case were lots of persons from south east asia-----some from Africa ---etc etc. I read lots too-----before I reached 20 I had read the koran----at a time when the majority of people in my "neck of the woods"---never heard of that book. You know very little other than meaningless platitudes. POVERTY DOES IT? does what? I doubt that you know what poverty really is

I really have no idea what your ramblings have to do with what I said.

 

[G.T.]

Do you have any idea the numbers that believe just as the terrorists? They are more than happy to have the terrorist do the killing for them, yet proclaim horror upon their 'accomplishment' publicly, all the while behind doors they shout with glee. After all, it is permissible to lie to the infidel.

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

He is not right. No one is condemning Islam, only radical Islam. The fact that he can't/won't make that distinction is disturbing.

This is false, plenty of people are condemning Islam, and specifically the middle eastern people. Myself included... (to varying degrees).

So you know that there are ten countries, Islamic countries, where homosexuality is punishable by death? I hesitate to impugn an entire religion, but..... death for sexual orientation?

I wont hesitate to impugn an entire Religion.....and i hate islam and scientology the most.


But as a head of state with the fate of the free world at stake.....id prolly be like...."oh, what? islam? yea theres a few assholes but out of a billion so its like.0.000001%"

I dont care, Im not pro thought police.

Finding Terrorists who actually "do" ******* ANYTHING within the billion plus population is RARE AS FFFFFUCK(a scientific term)....PER CAPITA.

Reality matters when speaking on issues at a world wide scale.


Same as - crime in america.

Its steadily DECREASED year after year after year....since the early 90s.

gun crime...

peaked in 1993.

Its trended WAY DOWN, and thats with ownership WAY up.

Statistics matter.

No, we dont have some gun crime epidemic in this country. Lets everyone chill the ffffuckout(also a scientific term).

 

[Norman]

Yes I agree with him, global warming is the root cause of the terrorist act.

 

[irosie91]

No one thinks Islam is the enemy.. that s why we use the term radical Islam. That is the whole point.

it's a silly moniker------is there a RADICAL CHRISTIANITY that accounts for serial murderers and which ----BUILDS MONUMENTS TO THOSE SAINTS WHO MURDER BABIES FOR CHRIST?

When some "Christians" start bombing marathons, shooting up nightclubs, flying airliners into skyscrapers, etc I'll be more than happy and willing to call them radical Christians. In fact I think groups like Westboro are radical christians and I'm not afraid to label them as such...you shouldn't be afraid or unwilling to do the same for radical Islam

Its just a difference of opinion over whether doing so validates them as chistians at all.

What about calling them "not christians," as opposed to misguided (radical) ones?

Not saying I personally agree with that strategy, but I certainly understand it... and am adult enough not to bicker over it

She missed Eric Rudolph

He was a radical Christian....now it's your turn asshole, say the words

I broke down and read some of RUDOLPHS---writings-----My diagnosis---based on the very little evidence I have is that he is manic depressive---with some psychotic features----
in this case psychotic obsessions----which do have tenuous links to religion as they OFTEN DO. Psychotic elderly Christian ladies see and talk to angels------psychotic jews imagine themselves to be THE MESSIAH ---lots of nuts got their delusions, hallucinations and obsessions from RELIGION Lots of muslim terrorists emulate muhummad and are adulated by MILLIONS as SAINTS------a prime example is---the first bonafide muslimah SAINT ---adulated by millions of muslims for putting a bomb on her ass with intention to kill as many Israeli children as she could----not "radical muslim" SAINT WAFA IDRIS

 

[irosie91]

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

Obama says,

"We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam,"

What part of that do you disagree with?

I get that he doesn't want to use the word Islam, but I don't see why he can't refer to them as terrorists who pervert Islam.

That will not satisfy the Trumpeters who want to believe Islam itself is the enemy, but ... who cares.

No one thinks Islam is the enemy.. that s why we use the term radical Islam. That is the whole point.

it's a silly moniker------is there a RADICAL CHRISTIANITY that accounts for serial murderers and which ----BUILDS MONUMENTS TO THOSE SAINTS WHO MURDER BABIES FOR CHRIST?

Yes.

really? a mainstream school of protestant theology advocates the worship of this nut
RUDOLPH?. I did not know----does this sect of Protestantism have a TITLE?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Now, now, Obama would not say "shit" if He had a mouthful.

Maybe that's why he won't say it.

Impolite to speak with one's mouth full.......

The derangement is heavy in this thread.[

He is not right. No one is condemning Islam, only radical Islam. The fact that he can't/won't make that distinction is disturbing.

This is false, plenty of people are condemning Islam, and specifically the middle eastern people. Myself included... (to varying degrees).

So you know that there are ten countries, Islamic countries, where homosexuality is punishable by death? I hesitate to impugn an entire religion, but..... death for sexual orientation?

As opposed to simply discriminating against them at every opportunity.

That's ridiculous. Nobody's discriminating against them at every opportunity. And even if so, you're equating that with executing them? My Gawd you people are pathetic.

Really? Should we review the history of conservatism's opposition to gay rights?

No.... there's nothing to review. There is nothing I can do that a gay person cannot do. You on the other hand, want to equate taking issue with gay marriage with throwing gays off of buildings. That's ******* sick.

 

[irosie91]

People who believe women cannot be allowed to go to school or drive a car are Islamic Extremists, some maybe even violent. But that doesn't mean they had something to do with killing people or that we are at war with them.

I don't think there is anything to demands that the shootings be explicitly broad-brushed to Islam than basic bigotry. Middle east is socially and economically backward and how they practice religion is a reflection, not a cause of it. Just as Christianity and Judaism as they are practiced are not causes, but reflections of societies.

anton----you know virtually nothing. I am a jew by virtue of having jewish parents---both born in the USA----and firmly liberal secular. ----so that's me-----I consider divulging that fact
VITAL to understanding my POV-----I grew up in a VERY VERY white bread town----protestant at its base-----a bit Nazi-----some of the local yokes boasted kinship to pre 1776
colonial patriots. ------VERY GOOD PEOPLE----not a single "colored" person in town----(the local yokels called 'em ----N^%%ahs) The biggest events in my childhood were ---MEMORIAL DAY, FOURTH OF JULY---thanks giving and Halloween ---of course Christmas and Easter but not something my relatives actually celebrated. Until I was twelve---firmly convinced that "the pilgrims invented democracy" But the fact that
my parents were firm LIBERALS took me off the path------I befriended the friendless-----which in my case were lots of persons from south east asia-----some from Africa ---etc etc. I read lots too-----before I reached 20 I had read the koran----at a time when the majority of people in my "neck of the woods"---never heard of that book. You know very little other than meaningless platitudes. POVERTY DOES IT? does what? I doubt that you know what poverty really is

I really have no idea what your ramblings have to do with what I said.

I introduced myself and included my background "culture". My statement is
clear ------I added that your statement
"POVERTY" does it is a platitude and suggests that you have a less than adequate
education &/or cultural basis for any insight at all into what "DOES IT..."

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

Obama is right... Our biggest ally in fighting racial Islam is moderate Islam...

Now your ilk have no clue about this since, Racial Islam (as you call it ) was on its knees during 911... It was the NeoCons and GOP which has brought them where they are today..

Just Maggie Thatcher made the IRA grow exponentially in size by her stance in Northern Ireland (She was described as the IRA's biggest recruitment tool), Bush Jr was the biggest recruitment tool for Radical Islam in the ME...

Trump is another clueless idiot in this...

The thing is, you keep on forgetting what ISIS want, so you keep on giving them their wish...

Trump is actually trying to surrender ground to ISIS, he is doing things that make them stronger, larger and bigger problem...
Well done surrender monkeys...

Lies.

 

[Deleted member 53821]

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

I don't agree because how should we differentiate between terrorist acts committed by islamic terrorism and people who bomb abortion clinics? They are both terrorism but they don't have the same causes since they are motivated by different causes and idealogies. People who bomb abortion clinics tend to be white christians while assholes in orlando tend to be young muslim males. Each are motivated by two seperate things and if you don't understand the motives you can't understand what causes them to do this so treating these as the same kind of acts makes it difficult to pinpoint their causes.

 

[irosie91]

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

I don't agree because how should we differentiate between terrorist acts committed by islamic terrorism and people who bomb abortion clinics? They are both terrorism but they don't have the same causes since they are motivated by different causes and idealogies. People who bomb abortion clinics tend to be white christians while assholes in orlando tend to be young muslim males. Each are motivated by two seperate things and if you don't understand the motives you can't understand what causes them to do this so treating these as the same kind of acts makes it difficult to pinpoint their causes.

I agree that the "causes" are different----but the fact is that both are equally heinous crimes. It IS important to understand "WHERE IT IS COMING FROM"----an illness cannot be treated without determining its cause

 

[G.T.]

Sprinkle some weed over the middle east and throw a McDonalds, Burger King, Dunkin Donuts on every damn corner and boom. Problem solved.

Im being coy, of course....but theres actually a deeper strategy there if anyone cared to flesh it out.

The problem is not money, or resources.

The problem is communication.

Sounds gay, right? Its........not so far fetched.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

I don't agree because how should we differentiate between terrorist acts committed by islamic terrorism and people who bomb abortion clinics? They are both terrorism but they don't have the same causes since they are motivated by different causes and idealogies. People who bomb abortion clinics tend to be white christians while assholes in orlando tend to be young muslim males. Each are motivated by two seperate things and if you don't understand the motives you can't understand what causes them to do this so treating these as the same kind of acts makes it difficult to pinpoint their causes.

I agree that the "causes" are different----but the fact is that both are equally heinous crimes. It IS important to understand "WHERE IT IS COMING FROM"----an illness cannot be treated without determining its cause

Did we dwell on understanding Nazism? The motives of Imperial Japan? Fascism?

Now, we dwelled on figuring out how to defeat them. This isn't a psychology experiment.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Sprinkle some weed over the middle east and throw a McDonalds, Burger King, Dunkin Donuts on every damn corner and boom. Problem solved.

Im being coy, of course....but theres actually a deeper strategy there if anyone cared to flesh it out.

The problem is not money, or resources.

The problem is communication.

Sounds gay, right? Its........not so far fetched.

Oh please.. communication? You can't be serious. You think that people that chop of heads, burn people alive, stone people, throws homosexuals off rooftops just need to be better communicated with?

 

[G.T.]

Obama explains why he doesn't use 'radical Islam'

President Obama recently answered criticisms from Trump that he never uses the words, "radical Islam", because he thinks it is a "distraction" that will create needless agitation towards those who practice Islam, even though that is what it is.

So is he right? Should we continue the PC charade of never saying "radical Islam"?

I don't agree because how should we differentiate between terrorist acts committed by islamic terrorism and people who bomb abortion clinics? They are both terrorism but they don't have the same causes since they are motivated by different causes and idealogies. People who bomb abortion clinics tend to be white christians while assholes in orlando tend to be young muslim males. Each are motivated by two seperate things and if you don't understand the motives you can't understand what causes them to do this so treating these as the same kind of acts makes it difficult to pinpoint their causes.

I agree that the "causes" are different----but the fact is that both are equally heinous crimes. It IS important to understand "WHERE IT IS COMING FROM"----an illness cannot be treated without determining its cause

Did we dwell on understanding Nazism? The motives of Imperial Japan? Fascism?

Now, we dwelled on figuring out how to defeat them. This isn't a psychology experiment.

Thats a good point - but theres something to be said for a defined standing army.......and a vaguely defined, loosely organized and hidden in pockets/cells across the world....


needing slightly altered strategies. At least....slightly different.

 

[G.T.]

Sprinkle some weed over the middle east and throw a McDonalds, Burger King, Dunkin Donuts on every damn corner and boom. Problem solved.

Im being coy, of course....but theres actually a deeper strategy there if anyone cared to flesh it out.

The problem is not money, or resources.

The problem is communication.

Sounds gay, right? Its........not so far fetched.

Oh please.. communication? You can't be serious. You think that people that chop of heads, burn people alive, stone people, throws homosexuals off rooftops just need to be better communicated with?

No, you misunderstand.

If you can continue in a cordial way, fine and I will.

But if you feel a devolved state of insult hurling non conversation coming about..



id rather not

 

[AntonToo]

I introduced myself and included my background "culture". My statement is
clear ------I added that your statement
"POVERTY" does it is a platitude and suggests that you have a less than adequate
education &/or cultural basis for any insight at all into what "DOES IT..."

Again I don't know what you are talking about, I never mentioned poverty in this thread

 

[LoneLaugher]

Obama is right... Our biggest ally in fighting racial Islam is moderate Islam...

Here's a clue. Any Muslim who is offended at identifying a Muslim who murders people as a "radical" ... is a radical ...

The point is not to be PC, the point is to take the excuse of using the banner of a Religion away from sick sadistic twits and leave them with just youre a sick sadistic twit.

And anyway, at the end of the day this is all arguing over minutia. It effects his Military Strategists ZERO.

So why the **** whine about it, is anyone's best guess.

Calm down, guy, didn't mean to make you so upset. When you are dodging who is responsible for the war, you aren't focused on the war, it clearly does reduce the effectiveness of the effort. It's totally important to specifically identify the enemy to defeat them. We aren't fighting all sick sadistic twits, we are fighting the Muslim ones. They are the ones killing people. And Obama has a clearly incoherent strategy to back that observation up

All bullshit.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Sprinkle some weed over the middle east and throw a McDonalds, Burger King, Dunkin Donuts on every damn corner and boom. Problem solved.

Im being coy, of course....but theres actually a deeper strategy there if anyone cared to flesh it out.

The problem is not money, or resources.

The problem is communication.

Sounds gay, right? Its........not so far fetched.

Oh please.. communication? You can't be serious. You think that people that chop of heads, burn people alive, stone people, throws homosexuals off rooftops just need to be better communicated with?

No, you misunderstand.

If you can continue in a cordial way, fine and I will.

But if you feel a devolved state of insult hurling non conversation coming about..



id rather not

Perhaps I misunderstand then.... I'll concede that point.. maybe. I and I hurled no insults... that I am aware of?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Obama is right... Our biggest ally in fighting racial Islam is moderate Islam...

Here's a clue. Any Muslim who is offended at identifying a Muslim who murders people as a "radical" ... is a radical ...

The point is not to be PC, the point is to take the excuse of using the banner of a Religion away from sick sadistic twits and leave them with just youre a sick sadistic twit.

And anyway, at the end of the day this is all arguing over minutia. It effects his Military Strategists ZERO.

So why the **** whine about it, is anyone's best guess.

Calm down, guy, didn't mean to make you so upset. When you are dodging who is responsible for the war, you aren't focused on the war, it clearly does reduce the effectiveness of the effort. It's totally important to specifically identify the enemy to defeat them. We aren't fighting all sick sadistic twits, we are fighting the Muslim ones. They are the ones killing people. And Obama has a clearly incoherent strategy to back that observation up

No one is dodging who is responsible for the war. The actors acting are responsible, not an entire religion. Why you didn't learn that lesson after we wrongly interned Japanese American citizens? What "muslims" should be targeted in your opinion?