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There Is As Much Energy Left As Would Be Produced If Everything That Grows in the Soil Burned Continously for a Thousand Years/——/ Fossil fuels were supposed to run out in 1975. Still waitingIt's never too late. It's been 11 years since a major recession because they know another one could go very badly for them.I suspect it’s too late. They control most of our institutions.We've fucked up and allowed an aristocracy to form in America. The battle we had with the robber barons to wrest back control of the nation's economy has passed from living memory. Looks like we are going to have to do it again./—-/Yeah, lets get poor people to run things. What could possibly go wrong?
I agree it is never too late to try because giving up is pointless.
But as fossil fuel runs out, the whole pie is getting smaller, so likely it will come to blows.
There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
The Whiteys Hating Whitey Party Will Also Forgive Student-Loans Only for MinoritiesThere's that but the word "socialism" lost most of it's stigma in the years after the 2008 crash. We started talking about the 1% and their golden parachutes. The American left gained in popularity and it looks like the democratic party may have to actually stand for what democratic voters always thought they did.I don’t think they are concerned about recessions. They know they have an uncle that will always take good care of them.It's never too late. It's been 11 years since a major recession because they know another one could go very badly for them.I suspect it’s too late. They control most of our institutions.We've fucked up and allowed an aristocracy to form in America. The battle we had with the robber barons to wrest back control of the nation's economy has passed from living memory. Looks like we are going to have to do it again./—-/Yeah, lets get poor people to run things. What could possibly go wrong?
The Carefully Hidden Cancer That Destroys All CivilizationsThere is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
Both sides are ignoring the unearned wealth from inheritance. So both twin sides love and protect Preppy moochers. That includes all white-collar jobs, not just the owners'. We have become a Juniorocracy, a terminal stage.
Inherited power, property, and position destroy Capitalism. Someone who starts a company and gets it producing popular jobs and products makes the system look good, but then his heirs, who rarely inherit that talent, wreck it, causing a depression.
To illustrate, imagine if pro athletes could pass on their positions to their sons. Year by year, sports would get worse and more unwatchable. Within a decade, they would go out of business.
There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
Look stupid.
My original comment had no insult to anyone in it so I'll just say eat a bag of dicks to make up for it.There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
Look stupid.
Putting an insult in the beginning of a TLDR reply is an awesome way to make sure I disregard your bullshit.
You've been living in a corrupt plutocracy so long you think that's how it's supposed to be.
Then get off the forum, if you are too pathetic to handle having dished back at you, all the insults you yourself have spewed out.
Besides everyone smart enough, already read and agreed with what I said. I don't need you to respond to anything, because I already know you can't.
So don't. Spare us all your lies.
Pass that memo along to Bill Gates, Tim Cook, David Geffen, Michael Bloomberg, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Sundar Pinchai, George Soros.....There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
The thing is and you’ll never comprehend it, the wealthy are doing a good job of destroying the country and you are paying for it.Bernie is doing well because many Americans are sick of the extreme wealthy getting socialism. However many middle class Americans still don’t see the fraud being committed against them. They think any government programs to help the poor and middle class is unacceptable. It’s communism. They go against their own self interest, while the 1% continue to enrich themselves on the government dole.There's that but the word "socialism" lost most of it's stigma in the years after the 2008 crash. We started talking about the 1% and their golden parachutes. The American left gained in popularity and it looks like the democratic party may have to actually stand for what democratic voters always thought they did.I don’t think they are concerned about recessions. They know they have an uncle that will always take good care of them.It's never too late. It's been 11 years since a major recession because they know another one could go very badly for them.
Yeah, because it's in my self interest to destroy the entire country.
Brilliant. You people are fools. You look around the world at Socialism destroying country after country, and then say we're voting against our self interest, to stop you people.
Did you learn nothing from France? The high cost of social programs, makes hard working people, into peasants working for the benefit of government. The whole yellow vest protest, is a protest against your ideology.
My original comment had no insult to anyone in it so I'll just say eat a bag of dicks to make up for it.There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
Look stupid.
Putting an insult in the beginning of a TLDR reply is an awesome way to make sure I disregard your bullshit.
You've been living in a corrupt plutocracy so long you think that's how it's supposed to be.
Then get off the forum, if you are too pathetic to handle having dished back at you, all the insults you yourself have spewed out.
Besides everyone smart enough, already read and agreed with what I said. I don't need you to respond to anything, because I already know you can't.
So don't. Spare us all your lies.
Necrocracy: Letting Dead People Determine Our FutureWell yes Lakhota .
The only way to get rid of billionaires would be to seize their assets, and if they resisted, to send in a SWAT team and murder them.
Is that your plan Lakhota , to send out SWAT teams around the US to seize all the assets of billionaires?
People have to commit a crime to suffer asset forfeiture!
Even if you pass a law banning billionaires, it would be ex-post-facto and NOT apply to those already beyond the limit, and thus they would be grandfathered in.
Have Fun Comrade.
There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
Elitist dictatorial / self-appointed ruling class politicians declaring voters can not be trusted to vote, setting up and running federal law-violating Sanctuary cities, declaring people should only be allowed to keep a percentage of THEIR own money, who violate both Constitution and law to overturn elections that do not favor them, lecturing others and demonizing other's wealth have no reason to exist, or at least be tolerated.There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
Think of all the good Bernie could do with those billions!
We've fucked up and allowed an aristocracy to form in America. The battle we had with the robber barons to wrest back control of the nation's economy has passed from living memory. Looks like we are going to have to do it again./—-/Yeah, lets get poor people to run things. What could possibly go wrong?There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
I suspect it’s too late. They control most of our institutions.We've fucked up and allowed an aristocracy to form in America. The battle we had with the robber barons to wrest back control of the nation's economy has passed from living memory. Looks like we are going to have to do it again./—-/Yeah, lets get poor people to run things. What could possibly go wrong?
Good thread, but now the answer to why higher rates on the wealthy do not work.
Before it gets to deep in this thread, watch this short video on psychology. While it has to do with tax returns, it also explains succinctly why without a large return for taking a chance, everybody is going to shy away FROM THAT CHANCE! Humans are just HARD WIRED that way, plain and simple, so you must allow more ability to make profit than some of us would like, or you will get no risk takers!
But something like a 30% tax rate is not too high.
And the wealthy are only paying 15% or less now, because they use loopholes like the capital gains rate, exemptions for their mansion mortgage, etc.
We need to fix the tax system to remove loopholes, and a flat tax with a large flat individual exemption would do that, while keeping taxes 0 for those making the amount of the exemption or less.
Why tax the living when we can tax the dead? Are Americans afraid of ghosts? 100% inheritance tax will eliminate the need for any income or corporate taxes.
Only those who have been manipulated into hating their Daddies for not getting rich and spoiling them, or being able to pay for their college education, support the unearned privileges of HeirHead moochers. Such slavish peasants and unAmerican nobility should go back to the crumbling castles of Europe where they belong. Continuously ignoring all that proves that this whole thread is soaked in blueblood propaganda.
No need to eliminate them. Just eliminate their ability to attain political power.Lakhota
Come and tell us you're plan to eliminate billionaires. How many armed federal thugs are you going to send nationwide to seize their assets?
Socialism has nothing against people earning all the money they wants.
Socialism just means that people pay reasonable taxes on what they make, because it was expenditures by government that allowed them to make those profits in the first place.
In the US, wealthy are taxed at the 15% capital gains rate, which is too low.
In Europe, they are taxed more like 50%, and that seems to high to me, because there hardly is any incentive to make anything then.
The ceiling likely should be more like 35%?
I barter my skills and labor for paper script notes because FRNs have no intrinsic value (HJR-192).....why do YOU believe that this corporate entity that lamely disguises itself as a legitimate governmental body (owned by the IMF) is entitled to benefit from MY labor by stealing a percentage of it? Income taxes are collected by a Puerto Rican Trust #62 aka "the IRS". Stupid fucks like you believe that by confiscating the earnings at a higher rate that all problems would be magically solved.
So, here is today's lesson......so STFU, turn around and face the black board.
Since every Federal Reserve note is "borrowed" into existence with interest attached to every note? Where do the FRNs come from to pay the interest? You can't pull eleven marbles out of a bag that only contains ten.
Emphasis on "note", like a Promissory note, house note, car note.....Black's Law dictionary defines "note" as debt owed....an I.O.U.
All ventures or human activities grow.
They all cost some investment, but you always end up with more than you started, whether it is hunting, gathering, planting, manufacturing, information, etc.
It is not a big deal for someone to charge a small amount for maintaining currency, so that trade is facilitated.
Everyone who uses currency owes a little bit for that convenience.
Everyone who uses roads, fire protection, crime protection, invasion protection, etc., owes a little bit for that convenience.
Life is not a zero sum game.
Populations and productivity of each individual is constantly increasing.
So effectively when you put 10 marbles into the bag, you do pull out 12 or 13 eventually.
That is as long as you put the marbles into the bag called "growth".
You only lose marbles if you put them into the bag called "waste", "decadence", "corruption", "greed", etc.
Necrocracy: Letting Dead People Determine Our FutureWell yes Lakhota .
The only way to get rid of billionaires would be to seize their assets, and if they resisted, to send in a SWAT team and murder them.
Is that your plan Lakhota , to send out SWAT teams around the US to seize all the assets of billionaires?
People have to commit a crime to suffer asset forfeiture!
Even if you pass a law banning billionaires, it would be ex-post-facto and NOT apply to those already beyond the limit, and thus they would be grandfathered in.
Have Fun Comrade.
There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
Elitist dictatorial / self-appointed ruling class politicians declaring voters can not be trusted to vote, setting up and running federal law-violating Sanctuary cities, declaring people should only be allowed to keep a percentage of THEIR own money, who violate both Constitution and law to overturn elections that do not favor them, lecturing others and demonizing other's wealth have no reason to exist, or at least be tolerated.There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
Think of all the good Bernie could do with those billions!
We've fucked up and allowed an aristocracy to form in America. The battle we had with the robber barons to wrest back control of the nation's economy has passed from living memory. Looks like we are going to have to do it again./—-/Yeah, lets get poor people to run things. What could possibly go wrong?
I suspect it’s too late. They control most of our institutions.We've fucked up and allowed an aristocracy to form in America. The battle we had with the robber barons to wrest back control of the nation's economy has passed from living memory. Looks like we are going to have to do it again.
Good thread, but now the answer to why higher rates on the wealthy do not work.
Before it gets to deep in this thread, watch this short video on psychology. While it has to do with tax returns, it also explains succinctly why without a large return for taking a chance, everybody is going to shy away FROM THAT CHANCE! Humans are just HARD WIRED that way, plain and simple, so you must allow more ability to make profit than some of us would like, or you will get no risk takers!
But something like a 30% tax rate is not too high.
And the wealthy are only paying 15% or less now, because they use loopholes like the capital gains rate, exemptions for their mansion mortgage, etc.
We need to fix the tax system to remove loopholes, and a flat tax with a large flat individual exemption would do that, while keeping taxes 0 for those making the amount of the exemption or less.
Why tax the living when we can tax the dead? Are Americans afraid of ghosts? 100% inheritance tax will eliminate the need for any income or corporate taxes.
Only those who have been manipulated into hating their Daddies for not getting rich and spoiling them, or being able to pay for their college education, support the unearned privileges of HeirHead moochers. Such slavish peasants and unAmerican nobility should go back to the crumbling castles of Europe where they belong. Continuously ignoring all that proves that this whole thread is soaked in blueblood propaganda.
That's ridiculous. If you setup a 100% inheritance tax... why would I ever build an inheritance? And if I never build an inheritance... then what you are you going to tax?
Now to clarify, I will build an inheritance.... just not in the US, and not taxable under US law.
I would invest in Canada, and keep my wealth there, to pass onto my decadence.
Of course that means no jobs or corporations creating wealth in the US.... but that's what left-wing ideology does... keep the poor poor, and the rich leave.
Socialism has nothing against people earning all the money they wants.
Socialism just means that people pay reasonable taxes on what they make, because it was expenditures by government that allowed them to make those profits in the first place.
In the US, wealthy are taxed at the 15% capital gains rate, which is too low.
In Europe, they are taxed more like 50%, and that seems to high to me, because there hardly is any incentive to make anything then.
The ceiling likely should be more like 35%?
I barter my skills and labor for paper script notes because FRNs have no intrinsic value (HJR-192).....why do YOU believe that this corporate entity that lamely disguises itself as a legitimate governmental body (owned by the IMF) is entitled to benefit from MY labor by stealing a percentage of it? Income taxes are collected by a Puerto Rican Trust #62 aka "the IRS". Stupid fucks like you believe that by confiscating the earnings at a higher rate that all problems would be magically solved.
So, here is today's lesson......so STFU, turn around and face the black board.
Since every Federal Reserve note is "borrowed" into existence with interest attached to every note? Where do the FRNs come from to pay the interest? You can't pull eleven marbles out of a bag that only contains ten.
Emphasis on "note", like a Promissory note, house note, car note.....Black's Law dictionary defines "note" as debt owed....an I.O.U.
All ventures or human activities grow.
They all cost some investment, but you always end up with more than you started, whether it is hunting, gathering, planting, manufacturing, information, etc.
It is not a big deal for someone to charge a small amount for maintaining currency, so that trade is facilitated.
Everyone who uses currency owes a little bit for that convenience.
Everyone who uses roads, fire protection, crime protection, invasion protection, etc., owes a little bit for that convenience.
Life is not a zero sum game.
Populations and productivity of each individual is constantly increasing.
So effectively when you put 10 marbles into the bag, you do pull out 12 or 13 eventually.
That is as long as you put the marbles into the bag called "growth".
You only lose marbles if you put them into the bag called "waste", "decadence", "corruption", "greed", etc.
That is has to be THE worst excuse for attempting to justify a central bank that extends credit from an empty vault and then charges interest on fiat currency created out of thin air. You are totally clueless...….
Socialism has nothing against people earning all the money they wants.
Socialism just means that people pay reasonable taxes on what they make, because it was expenditures by government that allowed them to make those profits in the first place.
In the US, wealthy are taxed at the 15% capital gains rate, which is too low.
In Europe, they are taxed more like 50%, and that seems to high to me, because there hardly is any incentive to make anything then.
The ceiling likely should be more like 35%?
I barter my skills and labor for paper script notes because FRNs have no intrinsic value (HJR-192).....why do YOU believe that this corporate entity that lamely disguises itself as a legitimate governmental body (owned by the IMF) is entitled to benefit from MY labor by stealing a percentage of it? Income taxes are collected by a Puerto Rican Trust #62 aka "the IRS". Stupid fucks like you believe that by confiscating the earnings at a higher rate that all problems would be magically solved.
So, here is today's lesson......so STFU, turn around and face the black board.
Since every Federal Reserve note is "borrowed" into existence with interest attached to every note? Where do the FRNs come from to pay the interest? You can't pull eleven marbles out of a bag that only contains ten.
Emphasis on "note", like a Promissory note, house note, car note.....Black's Law dictionary defines "note" as debt owed....an I.O.U.
All ventures or human activities grow.
They all cost some investment, but you always end up with more than you started, whether it is hunting, gathering, planting, manufacturing, information, etc.
It is not a big deal for someone to charge a small amount for maintaining currency, so that trade is facilitated.
Everyone who uses currency owes a little bit for that convenience.
Everyone who uses roads, fire protection, crime protection, invasion protection, etc., owes a little bit for that convenience.
Life is not a zero sum game.
Populations and productivity of each individual is constantly increasing.
So effectively when you put 10 marbles into the bag, you do pull out 12 or 13 eventually.
That is as long as you put the marbles into the bag called "growth".
You only lose marbles if you put them into the bag called "waste", "decadence", "corruption", "greed", etc.
That is has to be THE worst excuse for attempting to justify a central bank that extends credit from an empty vault and then charges interest on fiat currency created out of thin air. You are totally clueless...….
It not works, but is the most successful system anyone has ever tried.
Why do you think the US dollar is the world standard?
Necrocracy: Letting Dead People Determine Our FutureWell yes Lakhota .
The only way to get rid of billionaires would be to seize their assets, and if they resisted, to send in a SWAT team and murder them.
Is that your plan Lakhota , to send out SWAT teams around the US to seize all the assets of billionaires?
People have to commit a crime to suffer asset forfeiture!
Even if you pass a law banning billionaires, it would be ex-post-facto and NOT apply to those already beyond the limit, and thus they would be grandfathered in.
Have Fun Comrade.
There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
Elitist dictatorial / self-appointed ruling class politicians declaring voters can not be trusted to vote, setting up and running federal law-violating Sanctuary cities, declaring people should only be allowed to keep a percentage of THEIR own money, who violate both Constitution and law to overturn elections that do not favor them, lecturing others and demonizing other's wealth have no reason to exist, or at least be tolerated.
Think of all the good Bernie could do with those billions!
We've fucked up and allowed an aristocracy to form in America. The battle we had with the robber barons to wrest back control of the nation's economy has passed from living memory. Looks like we are going to have to do it again.
I suspect it’s too late. They control most of our institutions.
Good thread, but now the answer to why higher rates on the wealthy do not work.
Before it gets to deep in this thread, watch this short video on psychology. While it has to do with tax returns, it also explains succinctly why without a large return for taking a chance, everybody is going to shy away FROM THAT CHANCE! Humans are just HARD WIRED that way, plain and simple, so you must allow more ability to make profit than some of us would like, or you will get no risk takers!
But something like a 30% tax rate is not too high.
And the wealthy are only paying 15% or less now, because they use loopholes like the capital gains rate, exemptions for their mansion mortgage, etc.
We need to fix the tax system to remove loopholes, and a flat tax with a large flat individual exemption would do that, while keeping taxes 0 for those making the amount of the exemption or less.
Why tax the living when we can tax the dead? Are Americans afraid of ghosts? 100% inheritance tax will eliminate the need for any income or corporate taxes.
Only those who have been manipulated into hating their Daddies for not getting rich and spoiling them, or being able to pay for their college education, support the unearned privileges of HeirHead moochers. Such slavish peasants and unAmerican nobility should go back to the crumbling castles of Europe where they belong. Continuously ignoring all that proves that this whole thread is soaked in blueblood propaganda.
That's ridiculous. If you setup a 100% inheritance tax... why would I ever build an inheritance? And if I never build an inheritance... then what you are you going to tax?
Now to clarify, I will build an inheritance.... just not in the US, and not taxable under US law.
I would invest in Canada, and keep my wealth there, to pass onto my decadence.
Of course that means no jobs or corporations creating wealth in the US.... but that's what left-wing ideology does... keep the poor poor, and the rich leave.
No, many countries have very high inheritance tax, and investing in Canada does nothing to change the tax on US citizens even if invested in another country.
Sure a high inheritance tax takes the incentive out of building up a large estate, but the point is inheritance is inherently unfair. It is undemocratic for some to inherit and advantage over others.
It is immoral.
Necrocracy: Letting Dead People Determine Our FutureWell yes Lakhota .
The only way to get rid of billionaires would be to seize their assets, and if they resisted, to send in a SWAT team and murder them.
Is that your plan Lakhota , to send out SWAT teams around the US to seize all the assets of billionaires?
People have to commit a crime to suffer asset forfeiture!
Even if you pass a law banning billionaires, it would be ex-post-facto and NOT apply to those already beyond the limit, and thus they would be grandfathered in.
Have Fun Comrade.
There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
Elitist dictatorial / self-appointed ruling class politicians declaring voters can not be trusted to vote, setting up and running federal law-violating Sanctuary cities, declaring people should only be allowed to keep a percentage of THEIR own money, who violate both Constitution and law to overturn elections that do not favor them, lecturing others and demonizing other's wealth have no reason to exist, or at least be tolerated.There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
Think of all the good Bernie could do with those billions!
We've fucked up and allowed an aristocracy to form in America. The battle we had with the robber barons to wrest back control of the nation's economy has passed from living memory. Looks like we are going to have to do it again./—-/Yeah, lets get poor people to run things. What could possibly go wrong?There is no specific requirement that a capitalist economy be dominated by a super-wealthy class of plutocrats with enormous unaccountable political power.
I suspect it’s too late. They control most of our institutions.We've fucked up and allowed an aristocracy to form in America. The battle we had with the robber barons to wrest back control of the nation's economy has passed from living memory. Looks like we are going to have to do it again./—-/Yeah, lets get poor people to run things. What could possibly go wrong?
Good thread, but now the answer to why higher rates on the wealthy do not work.
Before it gets to deep in this thread, watch this short video on psychology. While it has to do with tax returns, it also explains succinctly why without a large return for taking a chance, everybody is going to shy away FROM THAT CHANCE! Humans are just HARD WIRED that way, plain and simple, so you must allow more ability to make profit than some of us would like, or you will get no risk takers!
But something like a 30% tax rate is not too high.
And the wealthy are only paying 15% or less now, because they use loopholes like the capital gains rate, exemptions for their mansion mortgage, etc.
We need to fix the tax system to remove loopholes, and a flat tax with a large flat individual exemption would do that, while keeping taxes 0 for those making the amount of the exemption or less.
Why tax the living when we can tax the dead? Are Americans afraid of ghosts? 100% inheritance tax will eliminate the need for any income or corporate taxes.
Only those who have been manipulated into hating their Daddies for not getting rich and spoiling them, or being able to pay for their college education, support the unearned privileges of HeirHead moochers. Such slavish peasants and unAmerican nobility should go back to the crumbling castles of Europe where they belong. Continuously ignoring all that proves that this whole thread is soaked in blueblood propaganda.
