Do today’s Democrats believe that ‘wealth’ is something distributed and not earned or created?

[BrokeLoser]

We often hear Lefties talk about “wealth distribution”....I don’t even know what that is...Do Dems believe ALL Americans are due some sort of distribution of wealth simply for being in America?

This is the kind of stuff I’ve read....
“In the USA, the top 20% get 80% of the wealth. This is the most lopsided distribution of wealth in the first world. The American middle class get's 11% of the nation's wealth, but pays more than half the taxes? How is that fair.”

“You clowns keep talking about what percentage of taxes the wealthy pay, without ever mentioning what percentage of the nation's income and wealth they receive in the first place. Republicans go to great lengths to obscure the income disparity in the USA and the real effects of their tax cuts.”

These people actually believe “THE NATION” owns the income and wealth...hahaha

 

[miketx]

We'll have to elect them first to find out.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Most lowly leftists can't and are incapable of creating wealth. They suck the government teat and expect to be taken care of.

The few who do succeed keep theirs and demand others take care of those that can't.

Hence the loser Great Society

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Robin in the Hood theory thinking they will steal from rich and give to the poor with higher taxation...

They believe they can turn the U.S. into the next China and the sad part is plenty will allow it to happen...

 

[BrokeLoser]

I’m hoping that America’s Greatest Money Man Mac1958 can help us out here.
Maybe Dragonlady will bless us with her opinion?

 

[Mac1958]

I’m hoping that America’s Greatest Money Man Mac1958 can help us out here.
Maybe Dragonlady will bless us with her opinion?

Just make something up as usual. I'll watch.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I’m hoping that America’s Greatest Money Man Mac1958 can help us out here.
Maybe Dragonlady will bless us with her opinion?

Just make something up as usual. I'll watch.

Come on man...these are your people....Where do they come up with such crazy anti American ideologies?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I’m hoping that America’s Greatest Money Man Mac1958 can help us out here.
Maybe Dragonlady will bless us with her opinion?

Couple of Clownshoes.

Neither have ever created wealth...bank that one

 

[Devils_Advocate]

I’m hoping that America’s Greatest Money Man Mac1958 can help us out here.
Maybe Dragonlady will bless us with her opinion?

Asking someone like Dragonlady will boil down to a flame war...

The fact is plenty of people believe the government can give them the life they want but do not deserve...

I am one that disagree with their view and will never support the form of society they want to thrust on to us...

 

[WEATHER53]

They do not know how it is earned and the privledges are achieved and don’t want to put in the work and responsibiliry to earn it so they decry it and those staunch people who do know and make it happen

 

[2aguy]

Robin in the Hood theory thinking they will steal from rich and give to the poor with higher taxation...

They believe they can turn the U.S. into the next China and the sad part is plenty will allow it to happen...

actually....Robin Hood stole back taxes confiscated by the crown and gave the money back to the people who had it taken from them......

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Robin in the Hood theory thinking they will steal from rich and give to the poor with higher taxation...

They believe they can turn the U.S. into the next China and the sad part is plenty will allow it to happen...

actually....Robin Hood stole back taxes confiscated by the crown and gave the money back to the people who had it taken from them......

True but these people should think they can use the Government to Steal from the Rich and Give to the Poor!!!

They think the Government can be used to do their bidding while forgetting that it has never worked that way...

 

[Dragonlady]

We often hear Lefties talk about “wealth distribution”....I don’t even know what that is...Do Dems believe ALL Americans are due some sort of distribution of wealth simply for being in America?

This is the kind of stuff I’ve read....
“In the USA, the top 20% get 80% of the wealth. This is the most lopsided distribution of wealth in the first world. The American middle class get's 11% of the nation's wealth, but pays more than half the taxes? How is that fair.”

“You clowns keep talking about what percentage of taxes the wealthy pay, without ever mentioning what percentage of the nation's income and wealth they receive in the first place. Republicans go to great lengths to obscure the income disparity in the USA and the real effects of their tax cuts.”

These people actually believe “THE NATION” owns the income and wealth...hahaha

Since you asked, politely, I'll give you a quick answer. It's 3:00 p.m. on Thanksgiving day, and I'm about to shower, change and head out to tonight's turkey feast and celebration.

You talk about the income, as if it's the wealthy who create the income. They don't. The executives and the shareholders at McDonalds, aren't generating the income they receive. The kids making, flipping and selling the burgers, and serving the customers are the ones generating the income. The shareholders are providing the capital to build the store, and the executives are managing the advertizing and the corporate strategies, but the money coming in the front door of the business comes fromo the sales of hamburgers and french frieds and soft drinks, and that's the work done by the low wage workers.

The franchise agreement dictates the distribution of that money. Posters here have said franchise fees are only 4%, so head office isn't getting that much. Law clerks, unlike legal secretaries, don't work for one lawyer. We work for Departments, and we work with all of the lawyers in those department, and we're more specialized. One of "my lawyers" was a franchise lawyer, so I've worked on the McDonald's franchise agreement, and my comment was "No wonder the store owners make no money".

Franchise fee - 4% of gross sales. Not that much really, but we're just getting started. Advertizing fee - 4%. There is also a printing fee - menus, placemats, napkins, burger wrappers, anything with the Logo. I don't remember the rest of the percentages because it was 20 years ago, and there was more. In, in all, more than 10% of gross sales was going to head office in fees and costs. All of these fees and costs being paid from the sales of the burgers and fries being produced by minimum wage workers.

The store owner is also required to purchase all inventory and food from Corporate. They can't shop around for the best deals from local suppliers. And if corporate decides your store needs to be reburished, they will order you to redecorate. All furniture and fixtures in this redecoration must be purchased through corporate to maintain the signature McDonald's look. Again everything is paid paid for from the sale of the burgers and fries.

Bear in mind that net profits - after expenses, before taxes, ranges between 5 and 15%, in the restaurant business. Even with a 15% profit margin, if you have to send 10% of your gross sales to head office, there's not much left over for the store owner. And they also sell you all of your food and supplies to operate. Very little of money coming into your store stays in your pockets or your community. Communities benefit when workers are well paid, and have disposable income to spend in the stores. Or the restaurant patronizes local suppliers for food, supplies or services. Corporate doesn't allow any of that.

McDonald's offers store owners a "turn key operation". They build the store, hand them a check, and open tomorrow. Every week a truck pulls up from head office to with every you need for your store. No sourcing, purchasing or thought goes into it. It's ideal for someone who goes in knowing nothing about the restaurant business, but they own your ass.

But all of the money earned by McDonald's corporation, comes from the sale of burgers paid by minimum wage workers. If corporate stopped bleeding the stores white, and stopped taking all of the money they can out of the stores, both the staff and the store owners would get a better shake.

Of course the President of McDonalds wouldn't be making more than $20 million per year, and the shareholders wouldn't be getting record dividends. You have to feel for the shareholder class - they get 50% of the income, even though fewer than 40% of them actually work or have jobs. Sitting on their asses, collecting dividend checks, living off the income generated by the kids.

80% of the people in the bottom 20% work full time - and they have to get government subsidies to keep body and soul together. Republicans call these workers "takers". But 60% of the wealthy, sit on their asses, living off their income generated by these people, and you say they're entitled to everything they get, because they create jobs.

Demand creates jobs. If you cease to have product to sell because you have no workers, you'll have to go out business in a heart beat. If the American workers are creating all of this wealth for people sitting on their asses at home, shouldn't they get a fairer share of that money?

Shouldn't the kids who are making all of these people so very rich be paid at least enough money to keep a roof over their heads?

 

[Harry Dresden]

We often hear Lefties talk about “wealth distribution”....I don’t even know what that is...Do Dems believe ALL Americans are due some sort of distribution of wealth simply for being in America?

This is the kind of stuff I’ve read....
“In the USA, the top 20% get 80% of the wealth. This is the most lopsided distribution of wealth in the first world. The American middle class get's 11% of the nation's wealth, but pays more than half the taxes? How is that fair.”

“You clowns keep talking about what percentage of taxes the wealthy pay, without ever mentioning what percentage of the nation's income and wealth they receive in the first place. Republicans go to great lengths to obscure the income disparity in the USA and the real effects of their tax cuts.”

These people actually believe “THE NATION” owns the income and wealth...hahaha

Since you asked, politely, I'll give you a quick answer. It's 3:00 p.m. on Thanksgiving day, and I'm about to shower, change and head out to tonight's turkey feast and celebration.

You talk about the income, as if it's the wealthy who create the income. They don't. The executives and the shareholders at McDonalds, aren't generating the income they receive. The kids making, flipping and selling the burgers, and serving the customers are the ones generating the income. The shareholders are providing the capital to build the store, and the executives are managing the advertizing and the corporate strategies, but the money coming in the front door of the business comes fromo the sales of hamburgers and french frieds and soft drinks, and that's the work done by the low wage workers.

The franchise agreement dictates the distribution of that money. Posters here have said franchise fees are only 4%, so head office isn't getting that much. Law clerks, unlike legal secretaries, don't work for one lawyer. We work for Departments, and we work with all of the lawyers in those department, and we're more specialized. One of "my lawyers" was a franchise lawyer, so I've worked on the McDonald's franchise agreement, and my comment was "No wonder the store owners make no money".

Franchise fee - 4% of gross sales. Not that much really, but we're just getting started. Advertizing fee - 4%. There is also a printing fee - menus, placemats, napkins, burger wrappers, anything with the Logo. I don't remember the rest of the percentages because it was 20 years ago, and there was more. In, in all, more than 10% of gross sales was going to head office in fees and costs. All of these fees and costs being paid from the sales of the burgers and fries being produced by minimum wage workers.

The store owner is also required to purchase all inventory and food from Corporate. They can't shop around for the best deals from local suppliers. And if corporate decides your store needs to be reburished, they will order you to redecorate. All furniture and fixtures in this redecoration must be purchased through corporate to maintain the signature McDonald's look. Again everything is paid paid for from the sale of the burgers and fries.

Bear in mind that net profits - after expenses, before taxes, ranges between 5 and 15%, in the restaurant business. Even with a 15% profit margin, if you have to send 10% of your gross sales to head office, there's not much left over for the store owner. And they also sell you all of your food and supplies to operate. Very little of money coming into your store stays in your pockets or your community.

McDonald's offers store owners a "turn key operation". They build the store, hand them a check, and open tomorrow. Every week a truck pulls up from head office to with every you need for your store. No sourcing, purchasing or thought goes into it. It's ideal for someone who goes in knowing nothing about the restaurant business, but they own your ass.

But all of the money earned by McDonald's corporation, comes from the sale of burgers paid by minimum wage workers. If corporate stopped bleeding the stores white, and stopped taking all of the money they can out of the stores, both the staff and the store owners would get a better shake.

Of course the President of McDonalds wouldn't be making more than $20 million per year, and the shareholders wouldn't be getting record dividends. You have to feel for the shareholder class - they get 50% of the income, even though fewer than 40% of them actually work or have jobs. Sitting on their asses, collecting dividend checks, living off the income generated by the kids.

80% of the people in the bottom 20% work full time - and they have to get government subsidies to keep body and soul together. Republicans call these workers "takers". But 60% of the wealthy, sit on their asses, living off their income generated by these people, and you say they're entitled to everything they get, because they create jobs.

Demand creates jobs. If you cease to have product to sell because you have no workers, you'll have to go out business in a heart beat. If the American workers are creating all of this wealth for people sitting on their asses at home, shouldn't they get a fairer share of that money?

Shouldn't the kids who are making all of these people so very rich be paid at least enough money to keep a roof over their heads?

The kids making, flipping and selling the burgers, and serving the customers are the ones generating the income.

you sure its not the people walking in and buying what is being sold who are generating the income?....the kids can flip all the burgers they can.....if no one buys them....no income...

 

[Dragonlady]

I’m hoping that America’s Greatest Money Man Mac1958 can help us out here.
Maybe Dragonlady will bless us with her opinion?

Couple of Clownshoes.

Neither have ever created wealth...bank that one

Says the day trader who does nothing to create wealth at all.

I have helped create a lot of wealth in my career. I helped construct the Village of the Blue Mountain, casino Rama, infrastructure, condominiums, and office towers. I helped build the Windsor/Detroit truck tunnel. The Brampton Youth Detention Centre, and the London Court House.

I did the patent application for the wireless handheld POS credit/debit machine used worldwide by restaurants and retailers, and the Loblaws Greenbox system.

 

[BrokeLoser]

We often hear Lefties talk about “wealth distribution”....I don’t even know what that is...Do Dems believe ALL Americans are due some sort of distribution of wealth simply for being in America?

This is the kind of stuff I’ve read....
“In the USA, the top 20% get 80% of the wealth. This is the most lopsided distribution of wealth in the first world. The American middle class get's 11% of the nation's wealth, but pays more than half the taxes? How is that fair.”

“You clowns keep talking about what percentage of taxes the wealthy pay, without ever mentioning what percentage of the nation's income and wealth they receive in the first place. Republicans go to great lengths to obscure the income disparity in the USA and the real effects of their tax cuts.”

These people actually believe “THE NATION” owns the income and wealth...hahaha

Since you asked, politely, I'll give you a quick answer. It's 3:00 p.m. on Thanksgiving day, and I'm about to shower, change and head out to tonight's turkey feast and celebration.

You talk about the income, as if it's the wealthy who create the income. They don't. The executives and the shareholders at McDonalds, aren't generating the income they receive. The kids making, flipping and selling the burgers, and serving the customers are the ones generating the income. The shareholders are providing the capital to build the store, and the executives are managing the advertizing and the corporate strategies, but the money coming in the front door of the business comes fromo the sales of hamburgers and french frieds and soft drinks, and that's the work done by the low wage workers.

The franchise agreement dictates the distribution of that money. Posters here have said franchise fees are only 4%, so head office isn't getting that much. Law clerks, unlike legal secretaries, don't work for one lawyer. We work for Departments, and we work with all of the lawyers in those department, and we're more specialized. One of "my lawyers" was a franchise lawyer, so I've worked on the McDonald's franchise agreement, and my comment was "No wonder the store owners make no money".

Franchise fee - 4% of gross sales. Not that much really, but we're just getting started. Advertizing fee - 4%. There is also a printing fee - menus, placemats, napkins, burger wrappers, anything with the Logo. I don't remember the rest of the percentages because it was 20 years ago, and there was more. In, in all, more than 10% of gross sales was going to head office in fees and costs. All of these fees and costs being paid from the sales of the burgers and fries being produced by minimum wage workers.

The store owner is also required to purchase all inventory and food from Corporate. They can't shop around for the best deals from local suppliers. And if corporate decides your store needs to be reburished, they will order you to redecorate. All furniture and fixtures in this redecoration must be purchased through corporate to maintain the signature McDonald's look. Again everything is paid paid for from the sale of the burgers and fries.

Bear in mind that net profits - after expenses, before taxes, ranges between 5 and 15%, in the restaurant business. Even with a 15% profit margin, if you have to send 10% of your gross sales to head office, there's not much left over for the store owner. And they also sell you all of your food and supplies to operate. Very little of money coming into your store stays in your pockets or your community. Communities benefit when workers are well paid, and have disposable income to spend in the stores. Or the restaurant patronizes local suppliers for food, supplies or services. Corporate doesn't allow any of that.

McDonald's offers store owners a "turn key operation". They build the store, hand them a check, and open tomorrow. Every week a truck pulls up from head office to with every you need for your store. No sourcing, purchasing or thought goes into it. It's ideal for someone who goes in knowing nothing about the restaurant business, but they own your ass.

But all of the money earned by McDonald's corporation, comes from the sale of burgers paid by minimum wage workers. If corporate stopped bleeding the stores white, and stopped taking all of the money they can out of the stores, both the staff and the store owners would get a better shake.

Of course the President of McDonalds wouldn't be making more than $20 million per year, and the shareholders wouldn't be getting record dividends. You have to feel for the shareholder class - they get 50% of the income, even though fewer than 40% of them actually work or have jobs. Sitting on their asses, collecting dividend checks, living off the income generated by the kids.

80% of the people in the bottom 20% work full time - and they have to get government subsidies to keep body and soul together. Republicans call these workers "takers". But 60% of the wealthy, sit on their asses, living off their income generated by these people, and you say they're entitled to everything they get, because they create jobs.

Demand creates jobs. If you cease to have product to sell because you have no workers, you'll have to go out business in a heart beat. If the American workers are creating all of this wealth for people sitting on their asses at home, shouldn't they get a fairer share of that money?

Shouldn't the kids who are making all of these people so very rich be paid at least enough money to keep a roof over their heads?

I don’t even know how to respond to such hilarity...it’s like I’m exchanging dialogue with some foreigner from a country that believes people should be paid to stay home and smoke weed while others go to work.
Mac1958 is she right, could America have been built on the principle she describes?

 

[Mac1958]

We often hear Lefties talk about “wealth distribution”....I don’t even know what that is...Do Dems believe ALL Americans are due some sort of distribution of wealth simply for being in America?

This is the kind of stuff I’ve read....
“In the USA, the top 20% get 80% of the wealth. This is the most lopsided distribution of wealth in the first world. The American middle class get's 11% of the nation's wealth, but pays more than half the taxes? How is that fair.”

“You clowns keep talking about what percentage of taxes the wealthy pay, without ever mentioning what percentage of the nation's income and wealth they receive in the first place. Republicans go to great lengths to obscure the income disparity in the USA and the real effects of their tax cuts.”

These people actually believe “THE NATION” owns the income and wealth...hahaha

Since you asked, politely, I'll give you a quick answer. It's 3:00 p.m. on Thanksgiving day, and I'm about to shower, change and head out to tonight's turkey feast and celebration.

You talk about the income, as if it's the wealthy who create the income. They don't. The executives and the shareholders at McDonalds, aren't generating the income they receive. The kids making, flipping and selling the burgers, and serving the customers are the ones generating the income. The shareholders are providing the capital to build the store, and the executives are managing the advertizing and the corporate strategies, but the money coming in the front door of the business comes fromo the sales of hamburgers and french frieds and soft drinks, and that's the work done by the low wage workers.

The franchise agreement dictates the distribution of that money. Posters here have said franchise fees are only 4%, so head office isn't getting that much. Law clerks, unlike legal secretaries, don't work for one lawyer. We work for Departments, and we work with all of the lawyers in those department, and we're more specialized. One of "my lawyers" was a franchise lawyer, so I've worked on the McDonald's franchise agreement, and my comment was "No wonder the store owners make no money".

Franchise fee - 4% of gross sales. Not that much really, but we're just getting started. Advertizing fee - 4%. There is also a printing fee - menus, placemats, napkins, burger wrappers, anything with the Logo. I don't remember the rest of the percentages because it was 20 years ago, and there was more. In, in all, more than 10% of gross sales was going to head office in fees and costs. All of these fees and costs being paid from the sales of the burgers and fries being produced by minimum wage workers.

The store owner is also required to purchase all inventory and food from Corporate. They can't shop around for the best deals from local suppliers. And if corporate decides your store needs to be reburished, they will order you to redecorate. All furniture and fixtures in this redecoration must be purchased through corporate to maintain the signature McDonald's look. Again everything is paid paid for from the sale of the burgers and fries.

Bear in mind that net profits - after expenses, before taxes, ranges between 5 and 15%, in the restaurant business. Even with a 15% profit margin, if you have to send 10% of your gross sales to head office, there's not much left over for the store owner. And they also sell you all of your food and supplies to operate. Very little of money coming into your store stays in your pockets or your community. Communities benefit when workers are well paid, and have disposable income to spend in the stores. Or the restaurant patronizes local suppliers for food, supplies or services. Corporate doesn't allow any of that.

McDonald's offers store owners a "turn key operation". They build the store, hand them a check, and open tomorrow. Every week a truck pulls up from head office to with every you need for your store. No sourcing, purchasing or thought goes into it. It's ideal for someone who goes in knowing nothing about the restaurant business, but they own your ass.

But all of the money earned by McDonald's corporation, comes from the sale of burgers paid by minimum wage workers. If corporate stopped bleeding the stores white, and stopped taking all of the money they can out of the stores, both the staff and the store owners would get a better shake.

Of course the President of McDonalds wouldn't be making more than $20 million per year, and the shareholders wouldn't be getting record dividends. You have to feel for the shareholder class - they get 50% of the income, even though fewer than 40% of them actually work or have jobs. Sitting on their asses, collecting dividend checks, living off the income generated by the kids.

80% of the people in the bottom 20% work full time - and they have to get government subsidies to keep body and soul together. Republicans call these workers "takers". But 60% of the wealthy, sit on their asses, living off their income generated by these people, and you say they're entitled to everything they get, because they create jobs.

Demand creates jobs. If you cease to have product to sell because you have no workers, you'll have to go out business in a heart beat. If the American workers are creating all of this wealth for people sitting on their asses at home, shouldn't they get a fairer share of that money?

Shouldn't the kids who are making all of these people so very rich be paid at least enough money to keep a roof over their heads?

I don’t even know how to respond to such hilarity...it’s like I’m exchanging dialogue with some foreigner from a country that believes people should be paid to stay home a smoke weed while others go to work.
Mac1958 is she right, could America have been built on the principle she describes?

Double cheeseburger!

 

[BrokeLoser]

We often hear Lefties talk about “wealth distribution”....I don’t even know what that is...Do Dems believe ALL Americans are due some sort of distribution of wealth simply for being in America?

This is the kind of stuff I’ve read....
“In the USA, the top 20% get 80% of the wealth. This is the most lopsided distribution of wealth in the first world. The American middle class get's 11% of the nation's wealth, but pays more than half the taxes? How is that fair.”

“You clowns keep talking about what percentage of taxes the wealthy pay, without ever mentioning what percentage of the nation's income and wealth they receive in the first place. Republicans go to great lengths to obscure the income disparity in the USA and the real effects of their tax cuts.”

These people actually believe “THE NATION” owns the income and wealth...hahaha

Since you asked, politely, I'll give you a quick answer. It's 3:00 p.m. on Thanksgiving day, and I'm about to shower, change and head out to tonight's turkey feast and celebration.

You talk about the income, as if it's the wealthy who create the income. They don't. The executives and the shareholders at McDonalds, aren't generating the income they receive. The kids making, flipping and selling the burgers, and serving the customers are the ones generating the income. The shareholders are providing the capital to build the store, and the executives are managing the advertizing and the corporate strategies, but the money coming in the front door of the business comes fromo the sales of hamburgers and french frieds and soft drinks, and that's the work done by the low wage workers.

The franchise agreement dictates the distribution of that money. Posters here have said franchise fees are only 4%, so head office isn't getting that much. Law clerks, unlike legal secretaries, don't work for one lawyer. We work for Departments, and we work with all of the lawyers in those department, and we're more specialized. One of "my lawyers" was a franchise lawyer, so I've worked on the McDonald's franchise agreement, and my comment was "No wonder the store owners make no money".

Franchise fee - 4% of gross sales. Not that much really, but we're just getting started. Advertizing fee - 4%. There is also a printing fee - menus, placemats, napkins, burger wrappers, anything with the Logo. I don't remember the rest of the percentages because it was 20 years ago, and there was more. In, in all, more than 10% of gross sales was going to head office in fees and costs. All of these fees and costs being paid from the sales of the burgers and fries being produced by minimum wage workers.

The store owner is also required to purchase all inventory and food from Corporate. They can't shop around for the best deals from local suppliers. And if corporate decides your store needs to be reburished, they will order you to redecorate. All furniture and fixtures in this redecoration must be purchased through corporate to maintain the signature McDonald's look. Again everything is paid paid for from the sale of the burgers and fries.

Bear in mind that net profits - after expenses, before taxes, ranges between 5 and 15%, in the restaurant business. Even with a 15% profit margin, if you have to send 10% of your gross sales to head office, there's not much left over for the store owner. And they also sell you all of your food and supplies to operate. Very little of money coming into your store stays in your pockets or your community. Communities benefit when workers are well paid, and have disposable income to spend in the stores. Or the restaurant patronizes local suppliers for food, supplies or services. Corporate doesn't allow any of that.

McDonald's offers store owners a "turn key operation". They build the store, hand them a check, and open tomorrow. Every week a truck pulls up from head office to with every you need for your store. No sourcing, purchasing or thought goes into it. It's ideal for someone who goes in knowing nothing about the restaurant business, but they own your ass.

But all of the money earned by McDonald's corporation, comes from the sale of burgers paid by minimum wage workers. If corporate stopped bleeding the stores white, and stopped taking all of the money they can out of the stores, both the staff and the store owners would get a better shake.

Of course the President of McDonalds wouldn't be making more than $20 million per year, and the shareholders wouldn't be getting record dividends. You have to feel for the shareholder class - they get 50% of the income, even though fewer than 40% of them actually work or have jobs. Sitting on their asses, collecting dividend checks, living off the income generated by the kids.

80% of the people in the bottom 20% work full time - and they have to get government subsidies to keep body and soul together. Republicans call these workers "takers". But 60% of the wealthy, sit on their asses, living off their income generated by these people, and you say they're entitled to everything they get, because they create jobs.

Demand creates jobs. If you cease to have product to sell because you have no workers, you'll have to go out business in a heart beat. If the American workers are creating all of this wealth for people sitting on their asses at home, shouldn't they get a fairer share of that money?

Shouldn't the kids who are making all of these people so very rich be paid at least enough money to keep a roof over their heads?

I don’t even know how to respond to such hilarity...it’s like I’m exchanging dialogue with some foreigner from a country that believes people should be paid to stay home a smoke weed while others go to work.
Mac1958 is she right, could America have been built on the principle she describes?

Double cheeseburger!

Scared to unveil your position aren’t you?
Hahaha..

 

[Mac1958]

We often hear Lefties talk about “wealth distribution”....I don’t even know what that is...Do Dems believe ALL Americans are due some sort of distribution of wealth simply for being in America?

This is the kind of stuff I’ve read....
“In the USA, the top 20% get 80% of the wealth. This is the most lopsided distribution of wealth in the first world. The American middle class get's 11% of the nation's wealth, but pays more than half the taxes? How is that fair.”

“You clowns keep talking about what percentage of taxes the wealthy pay, without ever mentioning what percentage of the nation's income and wealth they receive in the first place. Republicans go to great lengths to obscure the income disparity in the USA and the real effects of their tax cuts.”

These people actually believe “THE NATION” owns the income and wealth...hahaha

Since you asked, politely, I'll give you a quick answer. It's 3:00 p.m. on Thanksgiving day, and I'm about to shower, change and head out to tonight's turkey feast and celebration.

You talk about the income, as if it's the wealthy who create the income. They don't. The executives and the shareholders at McDonalds, aren't generating the income they receive. The kids making, flipping and selling the burgers, and serving the customers are the ones generating the income. The shareholders are providing the capital to build the store, and the executives are managing the advertizing and the corporate strategies, but the money coming in the front door of the business comes fromo the sales of hamburgers and french frieds and soft drinks, and that's the work done by the low wage workers.

The franchise agreement dictates the distribution of that money. Posters here have said franchise fees are only 4%, so head office isn't getting that much. Law clerks, unlike legal secretaries, don't work for one lawyer. We work for Departments, and we work with all of the lawyers in those department, and we're more specialized. One of "my lawyers" was a franchise lawyer, so I've worked on the McDonald's franchise agreement, and my comment was "No wonder the store owners make no money".

Franchise fee - 4% of gross sales. Not that much really, but we're just getting started. Advertizing fee - 4%. There is also a printing fee - menus, placemats, napkins, burger wrappers, anything with the Logo. I don't remember the rest of the percentages because it was 20 years ago, and there was more. In, in all, more than 10% of gross sales was going to head office in fees and costs. All of these fees and costs being paid from the sales of the burgers and fries being produced by minimum wage workers.

The store owner is also required to purchase all inventory and food from Corporate. They can't shop around for the best deals from local suppliers. And if corporate decides your store needs to be reburished, they will order you to redecorate. All furniture and fixtures in this redecoration must be purchased through corporate to maintain the signature McDonald's look. Again everything is paid paid for from the sale of the burgers and fries.

Bear in mind that net profits - after expenses, before taxes, ranges between 5 and 15%, in the restaurant business. Even with a 15% profit margin, if you have to send 10% of your gross sales to head office, there's not much left over for the store owner. And they also sell you all of your food and supplies to operate. Very little of money coming into your store stays in your pockets or your community. Communities benefit when workers are well paid, and have disposable income to spend in the stores. Or the restaurant patronizes local suppliers for food, supplies or services. Corporate doesn't allow any of that.

McDonald's offers store owners a "turn key operation". They build the store, hand them a check, and open tomorrow. Every week a truck pulls up from head office to with every you need for your store. No sourcing, purchasing or thought goes into it. It's ideal for someone who goes in knowing nothing about the restaurant business, but they own your ass.

But all of the money earned by McDonald's corporation, comes from the sale of burgers paid by minimum wage workers. If corporate stopped bleeding the stores white, and stopped taking all of the money they can out of the stores, both the staff and the store owners would get a better shake.

Of course the President of McDonalds wouldn't be making more than $20 million per year, and the shareholders wouldn't be getting record dividends. You have to feel for the shareholder class - they get 50% of the income, even though fewer than 40% of them actually work or have jobs. Sitting on their asses, collecting dividend checks, living off the income generated by the kids.

80% of the people in the bottom 20% work full time - and they have to get government subsidies to keep body and soul together. Republicans call these workers "takers". But 60% of the wealthy, sit on their asses, living off their income generated by these people, and you say they're entitled to everything they get, because they create jobs.

Demand creates jobs. If you cease to have product to sell because you have no workers, you'll have to go out business in a heart beat. If the American workers are creating all of this wealth for people sitting on their asses at home, shouldn't they get a fairer share of that money?

Shouldn't the kids who are making all of these people so very rich be paid at least enough money to keep a roof over their heads?

I don’t even know how to respond to such hilarity...it’s like I’m exchanging dialogue with some foreigner from a country that believes people should be paid to stay home a smoke weed while others go to work.
Mac1958 is she right, could America have been built on the principle she describes?

Double cheeseburger!

Scared to unveil your position aren’t you?
Hahaha..

Could be, if I had actually read any of that!

So, yeah, you bet!

 

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I made it through the first several pages of my voters pamphlet today here in my flaming liberal controlled state. $100M tax increase. $100M tax increase. $1.2B tax increase. $100M tax increase. Dems don't even take a break from raising taxes during an economy killing pandemic shutdown.