Do republicans have a limit on their philosophy of gun-owning freedom?

[Billy000]

Okay and no problems whatsoever have arisen because of those laws?

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.

Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?

The 2nd amendment duh. Who are you to decide what's best for me and my family when it comes to defending ourselves against murderous rapist criminal scum? Go ahead walk through the Chicago ghettos wearing a bunch of gold jewelry unarmed see what that gets you.

So fully automatics should be legal to open carry anywhere, anytime? How about RPG launchers? Should those be legal to own and open carry whereever, whenever?

I'm fine with automatic weapons, the current scheme is unconstitutional....

RPGs are not guns....

Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?

 

[owebo]

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.

Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?

The 2nd amendment duh. Who are you to decide what's best for me and my family when it comes to defending ourselves against murderous rapist criminal scum? Go ahead walk through the Chicago ghettos wearing a bunch of gold jewelry unarmed see what that gets you.

So fully automatics should be legal to open carry anywhere, anytime? How about RPG launchers? Should those be legal to own and open carry whereever, whenever?

I'm fine with automatic weapons, the current scheme is unconstitutional....

RPGs are not guns....

Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?

your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....

 

[yiostheoy]

...How does that simple philosophy translate into gun laws?

Looks like you are still here Billy000 and you still have an enquiring mind. But I can tell if you just like to argue or if you want someone to explain to you philosophically why people today should be allowed to keep guns in their homes and carry them on their person in public?

The answers to all these questions are contained within a very long U.S. Supreme Court decision linked below:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

However if you are not a good reader and/or you do not have any basic legal skills it won't make much sense to you.

In a nutshell, the late Justice Scalia explains that the Constitution via the 2nd Amendment gives everyone the right to own acceptable firearms in their homes for home protection. He then leaves to the various States the power to determine whether or not these people may have the additional right to bear their arms in public either openly or concealed or not at all. He also defines acceptable guns as those which have militia application. He disqualifies sawed off shotguns as unfit for militia duty and therefore calls them "destructive devices" not subject to private ownership.

This is the answer to all of your questions. But I am sure you probably won't get it.

In a nutshell, anything that is more like a "destructive device" is not appropriate for civilian ownership. Ergo, sawed off shotguns, rocket launchers, flame throwers, grenade launchers, hand grenades -- these items are all destructive devices.

Don't argue with me (or anyone else) about assault weapons. That is simply a legislative matter, same as submachine guns, belt fed machine guns, fully auto firearms, etc.

 

[Billy000]

Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?

The 2nd amendment duh. Who are you to decide what's best for me and my family when it comes to defending ourselves against murderous rapist criminal scum? Go ahead walk through the Chicago ghettos wearing a bunch of gold jewelry unarmed see what that gets you.

So fully automatics should be legal to open carry anywhere, anytime? How about RPG launchers? Should those be legal to own and open carry whereever, whenever?

I'm fine with automatic weapons, the current scheme is unconstitutional....

RPGs are not guns....

Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?

your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....

I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.

 

[yiostheoy]

The 2nd amendment duh. Who are you to decide what's best for me and my family when it comes to defending ourselves against murderous rapist criminal scum? Go ahead walk through the Chicago ghettos wearing a bunch of gold jewelry unarmed see what that gets you.

So fully automatics should be legal to open carry anywhere, anytime? How about RPG launchers? Should those be legal to own and open carry whereever, whenever?

I'm fine with automatic weapons, the current scheme is unconstitutional....

RPGs are not guns....

Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?

your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....

I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.

Your question has been answered by Scalia.

I know that you probably cannot read too good so you will likely never find the answer yourself in the Court's published decision, Pumpkin.

That's why I gave you nutshell explanations.

 

[Billy000]

So fully automatics should be legal to open carry anywhere, anytime? How about RPG launchers? Should those be legal to own and open carry whereever, whenever?

I'm fine with automatic weapons, the current scheme is unconstitutional....

RPGs are not guns....

Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?

your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....

I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.

Your question has been answered by Scalia.

I know that you probably cannot read too good so you will likely never find the answer yourself in the Court's published decision, Pumpkin.

That's why I gave you nutshell explanations.

Why is this thread such a struggle with you people? I'm asking for personal opinions on the limits of gun freedom.

 

[owebo]

The 2nd amendment duh. Who are you to decide what's best for me and my family when it comes to defending ourselves against murderous rapist criminal scum? Go ahead walk through the Chicago ghettos wearing a bunch of gold jewelry unarmed see what that gets you.

So fully automatics should be legal to open carry anywhere, anytime? How about RPG launchers? Should those be legal to own and open carry whereever, whenever?

I'm fine with automatic weapons, the current scheme is unconstitutional....

RPGs are not guns....

Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?

your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....

I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.

Start a new thread.....it's what we do here....

 

[owebo]

I'm fine with automatic weapons, the current scheme is unconstitutional....

RPGs are not guns....

Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?

your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....

I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.

Your question has been answered by Scalia.

I know that you probably cannot read too good so you will likely never find the answer yourself in the Court's published decision, Pumpkin.

That's why I gave you nutshell explanations.

Why is this thread such a struggle with you people? I'm asking for personal opinions on the limits of gun freedom.

No, you're trying to apply the liberal agenda, and are getting your ass handed to you.....

 

[Billy000]

Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?

your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....

I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.

Your question has been answered by Scalia.

I know that you probably cannot read too good so you will likely never find the answer yourself in the Court's published decision, Pumpkin.

That's why I gave you nutshell explanations.

Why is this thread such a struggle with you people? I'm asking for personal opinions on the limits of gun freedom.

No, you're trying to apply the liberal agenda, and are getting your ass handed to you.....

We both know that isn't true.

 

[Billy000]

So fully automatics should be legal to open carry anywhere, anytime? How about RPG launchers? Should those be legal to own and open carry whereever, whenever?

I'm fine with automatic weapons, the current scheme is unconstitutional....

RPGs are not guns....

Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?

your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....

I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.

Start a new thread.....it's what we do here....

I don't need to. You'd still be too much of a ***** to answer the question.

 

[NoNukes]

It makes cowards feel safer.

Tell that to the 2 million people a year that use them for defense of their lives and property. You must be on a respirator because you're obviously to stupid to breathe.

When you call someone stupid, you should use correct English. My point is that you do not need a gun to defend your life and property. Americans are living in the safest time and place in history.

Yeah, the cops have plenty of crime scene tape and chalk, right? That's all the protection we need according to idiots such as yourself. Crime is going down as gun ownership increases, that should tell you something.

Crime going down has nothing to do with gun ownership.

CDC Study: Use of Firearms for Self-Defense is ‘Important Crime Deterrent’

Has gun ownership in Chicago brought down crime?

 

[owebo]

Tell that to the 2 million people a year that use them for defense of their lives and property. You must be on a respirator because you're obviously to stupid to breathe.

When you call someone stupid, you should use correct English. My point is that you do not need a gun to defend your life and property. Americans are living in the safest time and place in history.

Yeah, the cops have plenty of crime scene tape and chalk, right? That's all the protection we need according to idiots such as yourself. Crime is going down as gun ownership increases, that should tell you something.

Crime going down has nothing to do with gun ownership.

CDC Study: Use of Firearms for Self-Defense is ‘Important Crime Deterrent’

Has gun ownership in Chicago brought down crime?

Citizens rights are oppressed by democrats in Chicago.....

 

[miketx]

Like is it in their fantasy for it to one day be legal for anyone to open-carry automatic rifles whenever and where ever?

My question is where do gun nuts draw the line? Like when it comes to open carry, what rules should it have? Should it have no rules? Like some dumb redneck carrying a gun into a bar til 2 AM is okay? Anyone should be allowed to do that?

As usual republicans struggle with nuance when it comes to political issues they are obsessed with. For example, cons will likely reply to this thread and start making the ridiculous claim that I think the 2nd amendment should be overturned. I don't. I also don't think semi-automatics should be illegal. I support laws that are designed to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. I also think open carry is ridiculous.

It doesn't really matter if I say all of that though. In their minds I'm a "snowflake" that is outraged over boys playing with toy guns. I'm nothing but a naive, pretentious "libtard" with a Gender's Studies degree who thinks guns are evil. Cliche is something easy for republicans to grasp I guess.

The stupid is high in this post above.

 

[miketx]

First off, the fact that you are being hostile towards people with a different opinion of your own by calling them gun nuts shows that once again you really are not interested in any kind of serious discussion. Second, what you suggest is already legal here in Nevada and we have had no issues. As a matter of fact, I was out with a buddy of mine a few months ago at a bar and he had a handgun tucked in to a holster in the back of his jeans and he is not a dumb redneck. He happens to be a very successful insurance agent who makes about three quarters of $1 million a year

In Nevada, anyone can carry a weapon anywhere, anytime?

Open carry is legal anywhere except schools and government buildings. Concealed requires a permit

Okay and no problems whatsoever have arisen because of those laws?

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.

Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?

RIghts don't have to be justified, commie.

 

[NoNukes]

When you call someone stupid, you should use correct English. My point is that you do not need a gun to defend your life and property. Americans are living in the safest time and place in history.

Yeah, the cops have plenty of crime scene tape and chalk, right? That's all the protection we need according to idiots such as yourself. Crime is going down as gun ownership increases, that should tell you something.

Crime going down has nothing to do with gun ownership.

CDC Study: Use of Firearms for Self-Defense is ‘Important Crime Deterrent’

Has gun ownership in Chicago brought down crime?

Citizens rights are oppressed by democrats in Chicago.....

So no one owns guns?

 

[miketx]

Liberals, always playing pretend.

 

[owebo]

Yeah, the cops have plenty of crime scene tape and chalk, right? That's all the protection we need according to idiots such as yourself. Crime is going down as gun ownership increases, that should tell you something.

Crime going down has nothing to do with gun ownership.

CDC Study: Use of Firearms for Self-Defense is ‘Important Crime Deterrent’

Has gun ownership in Chicago brought down crime?

Citizens rights are oppressed by democrats in Chicago.....

So no one owns guns?

Try a different on-line degree.....the one you have failed....

 

[BluesLegend]

Open carry is legal anywhere except schools and government buildings. Concealed requires a permit

Okay and no problems whatsoever have arisen because of those laws?

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.

Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?

The 2nd amendment duh. Who are you to decide what's best for me and my family when it comes to defending ourselves against murderous rapist criminal scum? Go ahead walk through the Chicago ghettos wearing a bunch of gold jewelry unarmed see what that gets you.

So fully automatics should be legal to open carry anywhere, anytime? How about RPG launchers? Should those be legal to own and open carry whereever, whenever?

How about photon torpedo's or that huge planet killer in Star Wars, makes about as much sense as your liberal anti gun nonsense. That's all you freaks to, propose some stupid extreme nonsense and call it an argument to try to knock a hole in the 2nd amendment. You think its clever, we just find it dumb.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I no longer give a damn... If you want to blow each other away/....Well, that is good for our nation.

see, this is really how the left really views gun ownership, through the eyes of criminals who would do just that with no regard at all to law abiding citizens who will never do that to each other...stay in your gun free zone then, just don't mistake it for your safe place

 

[miketx]

Liberals are guilty of channeling (and much more). In so that they know that if they had a gun, they would just start randomly shooting people, so they don't anyone else to have one. Sick, truly sick.