Do republicans have a limit on their philosophy of gun-owning freedom?

[Hutch Starskey]

My question is where do gun nuts draw the line? Like when it comes to open carry, what rules should it have? Should it have no rules? Like some dumb redneck carrying a gun into a bar til 2 AM is okay? Anyone should be allowed to do that?
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First off, the fact that you are being hostile towards people with a different opinion of your own by calling them gun nuts shows that once again you really are not interested in any kind of serious discussion. Second, what you suggest is already legal here in Nevada and we have had no issues. As a matter of fact, I was out with a buddy of mine a few months ago at a bar and he had a handgun tucked in to a holster in the back of his jeans and he is not a dumb redneck. He happens to be a very successful insurance agent who makes about three quarters of $1 million a year

In Nevada, anyone can carry a weapon anywhere, anytime?

Open carry is legal anywhere except schools and government buildings. Concealed requires a permit

I can't imagine that casinos allow guns on their premises.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

First off, the fact that you are being hostile towards people with a different opinion of your own by calling them gun nuts shows that once again you really are not interested in any kind of serious discussion. Second, what you suggest is already legal here in Nevada and we have had no issues. As a matter of fact, I was out with a buddy of mine a few months ago at a bar and he had a handgun tucked in to a holster in the back of his jeans and he is not a dumb redneck. He happens to be a very successful insurance agent who makes about three quarters of $1 million a year

In Nevada, anyone can carry a weapon anywhere, anytime?

Open carry is legal anywhere except schools and government buildings. Concealed requires a permit

Okay and no problems whatsoever have arisen because of those laws?

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.

Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?

Blacks, Mexicans and mooslims of course.

 

[owebo]

In Nevada, anyone can carry a weapon anywhere, anytime?

Open carry is legal anywhere except schools and government buildings. Concealed requires a permit

Okay and no problems whatsoever have arisen because of those laws?

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.

Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?

Blacks, Mexicans and mooslims of course.

Racist...

 

[SmokeALib]

Tell that to the 2 million people a year that use them for defense of their lives and property. You must be on a respirator because you're obviously to stupid to breathe.

When you call someone stupid, you should use correct English. My point is that you do not need a gun to defend your life and property. Americans are living in the safest time and place in history.

Yeah, the cops have plenty of crime scene tape and chalk, right? That's all the protection we need according to idiots such as yourself. Crime is going down as gun ownership increases, that should tell you something.

Crime going down has nothing to do with gun ownership.

CDC Study: Use of Firearms for Self-Defense is ‘Important Crime Deterrent’

Has gun ownership in Chicago brought down crime?

Don't you mean - Has the suppression of gun ownership in Chicago brought down crime?
The answer is a resounding no.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So fully automatics should be legal to open carry anywhere, anytime? How about RPG launchers? Should those be legal to own and open carry whereever, whenever?

I'm fine with automatic weapons, the current scheme is unconstitutional....

RPGs are not guns....

Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?

your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....

I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.

Your question has been answered by Scalia.

I know that you probably cannot read too good so you will likely never find the answer yourself in the Court's published decision, Pumpkin.

That's why I gave you nutshell explanations.

Scalia says very clearly in that opinion that as with all rights, the second is not unlimited.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Open carry is legal anywhere except schools and government buildings. Concealed requires a permit

Okay and no problems whatsoever have arisen because of those laws?

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.

Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?

Blacks, Mexicans and mooslims of course.

Racist...

Yes they are. That was the stated reason for more than a few on this thread.

 

[owebo]

Okay and no problems whatsoever have arisen because of those laws?

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.

Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?

Blacks, Mexicans and mooslims of course.

Racist...

Yes they are. That was the stated reason for more than a few on this thread.

Racist....

 

[owebo]

I'm fine with automatic weapons, the current scheme is unconstitutional....

RPGs are not guns....

Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?

your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....

I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.

Your question has been answered by Scalia.

I know that you probably cannot read too good so you will likely never find the answer yourself in the Court's published decision, Pumpkin.

That's why I gave you nutshell explanations.

Scalia says very clearly in that opinion that as with all rights, the second is not unlimited.

Our new SCOTUS will take that step further....and prohibit infringement .....

Sadness on you, elections have consequences....

 

[2aguy]

Like is it in their fantasy for it to one day be legal for anyone to open-carry automatic rifles whenever and where ever?

My question is where do gun nuts draw the line? Like when it comes to open carry, what rules should it have? Should it have no rules? Like some dumb redneck carrying a gun into a bar til 2 AM is okay? Anyone should be allowed to do that?

As usual republicans struggle with nuance when it comes to political issues they are obsessed with. For example, cons will likely reply to this thread and start making the ridiculous claim that I think the 2nd amendment should be overturned. I don't. I also don't think semi-automatics should be illegal. I support laws that are designed to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. I also think open carry is ridiculous.

It doesn't really matter if I say all of that though. In their minds I'm a "snowflake" that is outraged over boys playing with toy guns. I'm nothing but a naive, pretentious "libtard" with a Gender's Studies degree who thinks guns are evil. Cliche is something easy for republicans to grasp I guess.

You obviously are posting from emotion and irrationality because you are not posting from any form of knowledge about gun ownership in this country.

About 40 states allow carrying guns in places that serve alcohol, you simply can't drink when you are there.....also, last year Virginia passed the law allowing concealed carry in bars...and their crime rate in bars went down 5.7%.......

So, that was the first point you don't understand.

We already have rules governing every aspect of gun ownership.......if you use a gun to break the law you are arrested....that is the only real law that we need, and if that one law was enforced with a long prison sentence, our gun crime rate would go down a lot...

More truth for you.....

in the 1990s we had 200 million guns in private hands, and in 1997 4.7 million people carried guns for self defense.....in 2016 we now have 357-400 million guns in private hands and 15 million people carrying guns for self defense......and our gun murder rate went down 47%........

Our gun accident death rate went down....our non fatal gun accident rate went down......

We already have the laws we need, Americans are the most responsible gun owners in the world...we just need to deal with our criminals more effectively.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?

your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....

I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.

Your question has been answered by Scalia.

I know that you probably cannot read too good so you will likely never find the answer yourself in the Court's published decision, Pumpkin.

That's why I gave you nutshell explanations.

Scalia says very clearly in that opinion that as with all rights, the second is not unlimited.

Our new SCOTUS will take that step further....and prohibit infringement .....

Sadness on you, elections have consequences....

There will never be a justice who is more conservative than Scalia. They'd never make it through confirmation.

 

[Iceweasel]

Cliche is something easy for republicans to grasp I guess.

You are too dimwitted to understand what's wrong with that.

 

[2aguy]

First off, the fact that you are being hostile towards people with a different opinion of your own by calling them gun nuts shows that once again you really are not interested in any kind of serious discussion. Second, what you suggest is already legal here in Nevada and we have had no issues. As a matter of fact, I was out with a buddy of mine a few months ago at a bar and he had a handgun tucked in to a holster in the back of his jeans and he is not a dumb redneck. He happens to be a very successful insurance agent who makes about three quarters of $1 million a year

In Nevada, anyone can carry a weapon anywhere, anytime?

Open carry is legal anywhere except schools and government buildings. Concealed requires a permit

Okay and no problems whatsoever have arisen because of those laws?

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.

Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?

What is the problem with open carry? As long as the gun owners isn't shooting people, the gun is not harming anyone........

Open carry is justified because we are a free people, and there are criminals in this country......

 

[Frankeneinstein]

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[2aguy]

Open carry is legal anywhere except schools and government buildings. Concealed requires a permit

Okay and no problems whatsoever have arisen because of those laws?

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.

Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?

Is there something about "shall not be infringed" that confuses you?

So let me ask you this: should anyone be allowed to carry any automatic weapon anywhere, anytime? How about an RPG launcher? Should it be legal to carry any of those fuckers around? Where do you draw the line? Is there no line at all?

Small arms.....rifles and pistols are covered by the 2nd.....easily, the rest can be haggled over.....but there were people carrying rifles at the march in Dallas.....and when the black lies matter supporter started shooting, the people with rifles retreated and let the police handle it......so what is the problem with someone with a rifle.....as long as they are responsible with it......?

 

[Iceweasel]

So let me ask you this: should anyone be allowed to carry any automatic weapon anywhere, anytime? How about an RPG launcher? Should it be legal to carry any of those fuckers around? Where do you draw the line? Is there no line at all?

You have a stupid argument. The lines around around the states, that's where I draw them too.

 

[2aguy]

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.

Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?

Is there something about "shall not be infringed" that confuses you?

So let me ask you this: should anyone be allowed to carry any automatic weapon anywhere, anytime? How about an RPG launcher? Should it be legal to carry any of those fuckers around? Where do you draw the line? Is there no line at all?

Stupid question dumb ****. That line has already been drawn.

It's a simple question. Where do YOU draw the line? What limits, if any, should the 2nd amendment have?

This is always easy...you guys just ignore the answer...

Violent felons lose their right to own guns...the dangerously mentally ill....when we find a way to determine the danger without attacking normal people...

If you commit a crime with a gun you go to jail...for a long time....

And there you have it........all we need.

 

[owebo]

your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....

I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.

Your question has been answered by Scalia.

I know that you probably cannot read too good so you will likely never find the answer yourself in the Court's published decision, Pumpkin.

That's why I gave you nutshell explanations.

Scalia says very clearly in that opinion that as with all rights, the second is not unlimited.

Our new SCOTUS will take that step further....and prohibit infringement .....

Sadness on you, elections have consequences....

There will never be a justice who is more conservative than Scalia. They'd never make it through confirmation.

We will have a conservative SCOTUS for the next 40+ years....

I did my job....you failed at yours....

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.

Your question has been answered by Scalia.

I know that you probably cannot read too good so you will likely never find the answer yourself in the Court's published decision, Pumpkin.

That's why I gave you nutshell explanations.

Scalia says very clearly in that opinion that as with all rights, the second is not unlimited.

Our new SCOTUS will take that step further....and prohibit infringement .....

Sadness on you, elections have consequences....

There will never be a justice who is more conservative than Scalia. They'd never make it through confirmation.

We will have a conservative SCOTUS for the next 40+ years....

I did my job....you failed at yours....

You have for the last forty.
I simply said there won't be any who are more conservative than Scalia.

 

[2aguy]

Nothing wrong with gun owning freedom.

It makes cowards feel safer.

Tell that to the 2 million people a year that use them for defense of their lives and property. You must be on a respirator because you're obviously to stupid to breathe.

When you call someone stupid, you should use correct English. My point is that you do not need a gun to defend your life and property. Americans are living in the safest time and place in history.

Yeah, the cops have plenty of crime scene tape and chalk, right? That's all the protection we need according to idiots such as yourself. Crime is going down as gun ownership increases, that should tell you something.

Crime going down has nothing to do with gun ownership.

Actually, the only thing you can say for sure from the fact that as gun ownership went up...and the gun murder rate went down 47%...is that law abiding gun owners carrying guns for protection does not increase the violent crime rate or the gun murder rate....the basic, underlying premise of the entire anti gun movement is shown to be untrue........

And there are studies that show that gun ownership helps reduce violent crime.........a lot of those studies and they have been listed on U.S. message before....

 

[owebo]

Your question has been answered by Scalia.

I know that you probably cannot read too good so you will likely never find the answer yourself in the Court's published decision, Pumpkin.

That's why I gave you nutshell explanations.

Scalia says very clearly in that opinion that as with all rights, the second is not unlimited.

Our new SCOTUS will take that step further....and prohibit infringement .....

Sadness on you, elections have consequences....

There will never be a justice who is more conservative than Scalia. They'd never make it through confirmation.

We will have a conservative SCOTUS for the next 40+ years....

I did my job....you failed at yours....

You have for the last forty.
I simply said they won't be more conservative than Scalia.

Yes I have, and it culminated with Trump.....ain't it great!!!!!