Do republicans have a limit on their philosophy of gun-owning freedom?

Pretty much. If i desire and I want to spend the money I can have my full auto. If I want a cannon I simply search Dixie gun works and click, bang my brand new 16 pounder is on my door step. Your rant is pointless because hood rats arent using class three weapons or cannons. What you are saying is I cant have guns because other people are using them to kill other people which they will continue to do no matter what tweaks are made to the 2nd.All your limits and lines on the 2nd do nothing but make it harder on people who are not thugs.
See, you're confused. I'm not asking what current laws on guns are. I want to know what YOU think the laws should be.


None. Im thnking they got plenty and most are useless. Matter of fact, I would love to have short barrled rifles off the regulated list as well as suppressors. That way I could go back to shooting in my back yard, and if I ever had to blast a hood rat in my house I wouldn't damage my hearing.
Okay so you're saying it is impossible for a gun control law to be good? Why?


In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.

First Reports Evaluating the Effectiveness of Strategies for Preventing Violence: Firearms Laws
lol any gun control laws that get passed are always either weak or watered down. Nothing substantial ever gets passed. What you don't know is that gun control laws in Australia work. Gun violence took a nose dive in that country. Mass shootings, specifically.


Sorry.....the gun control laws in Australia have failed.....I posted a 3 part article in another thread on the rising gun crime in Australia.....they now call Melbourne Australia the city of the gun........you need to catch up .....
 
Pretty much. If i desire and I want to spend the money I can have my full auto. If I want a cannon I simply search Dixie gun works and click, bang my brand new 16 pounder is on my door step. Your rant is pointless because hood rats arent using class three weapons or cannons. What you are saying is I cant have guns because other people are using them to kill other people which they will continue to do no matter what tweaks are made to the 2nd.All your limits and lines on the 2nd do nothing but make it harder on people who are not thugs.
See, you're confused. I'm not asking what current laws on guns are. I want to know what YOU think the laws should be.


None. Im thnking they got plenty and most are useless. Matter of fact, I would love to have short barrled rifles off the regulated list as well as suppressors. That way I could go back to shooting in my back yard, and if I ever had to blast a hood rat in my house I wouldn't damage my hearing.
Okay so you're saying it is impossible for a gun control law to be good? Why?


In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.

First Reports Evaluating the Effectiveness of Strategies for Preventing Violence: Firearms Laws
lol any gun control laws that get passed are always either weak or watered down. Nothing substantial ever gets passed. What you don't know is that gun control laws in Australia work. Gun violence took a nose dive in that country. Mass shootings, specifically.


The only reason they haven't had more mass shootings...and they have had 2 actually since they banned guns...is that the guys with the guns...didn't shoot enough people to qualify....they had guns, and they had opportunity....they just didn't shoot people...there were two shootings by muslim immigrants that would have been mass shootings had they simply shot more people...

Luck, not laws, has kept Australian mass shootings low ...and they were low before they confiscated guns....banning guns did nothing for them...
 
Like is it in their fantasy for it to one day be legal for anyone to open-carry automatic rifles whenever and where ever?

My question is where do gun nuts draw the line? Like when it comes to open carry, what rules should it have? Should it have no rules? Like some dumb redneck carrying a gun into a bar til 2 AM is okay? Anyone should be allowed to do that?

As usual republicans struggle with nuance when it comes to political issues they are obsessed with. For example, cons will likely reply to this thread and start making the ridiculous claim that I think the 2nd amendment should be overturned. I don't. I also don't think semi-automatics should be illegal. I support laws that are designed to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. I also think open carry is ridiculous.

It doesn't really matter if I say all of that though. In their minds I'm a "snowflake" that is outraged over boys playing with toy guns. I'm nothing but a naive, pretentious "libtard" with a Gender's Studies degree who thinks guns are evil. Cliche is something easy for republicans to grasp I guess.
there is absolutely no need to limit law abiding people from owning as many or any kind of guns they want
 
My OP question is simple. Where do YOU draw the line on the freedom to carry and discharge firearms?

Goalpost moved.

I don't think anyone here would suggest that the right to keep and bear arms includes a “right” to discharge arms in a manner that needlessly and unjustly causes harm or unreasonable danger to others.
 
Like is it in their fantasy for it to one day be legal for anyone to open-carry automatic rifles whenever and where ever?

My question is where do gun nuts draw the line? Like when it comes to open carry, what rules should it have? Should it have no rules? Like some dumb redneck carrying a gun into a bar til 2 AM is okay? Anyone should be allowed to do that?

As usual republicans struggle with nuance when it comes to political issues they are obsessed with. For example, cons will likely reply to this thread and start making the ridiculous claim that I think the 2nd amendment should be overturned. I don't. I also don't think semi-automatics should be illegal. I support laws that are designed to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. I also think open carry is ridiculous.

It doesn't really matter if I say all of that though. In their minds I'm a "snowflake" that is outraged over boys playing with toy guns. I'm nothing but a naive, pretentious "libtard" with a Gender's Studies degree who thinks guns are evil. Cliche is something easy for republicans to grasp I guess.

OK the "Genders Studies degress" was pretty ******* funny
 
True, I did just throw in "discharge" in that post. I was just trying to make you think with nuance and specifics.
Yeah Billy, because most of us never really thought about shooting said firearms. We were hoping to cross that bridge should the occasion ever arise.
 
I'm fine with automatic weapons, the current scheme is unconstitutional....

RPGs are not guns....
Well sure but are you suggesting they don't apply to the 2nd amendment?
your thread is about guns, they are not guns.....
I'm aware. I asked you a new question. Try to keep up, pumpkin.
Your question has been answered by Scalia.

I know that you probably cannot read too good so you will likely never find the answer yourself in the Court's published decision, Pumpkin.

That's why I gave you nutshell explanations.

Scalia says very clearly in that opinion that as with all rights, the second is not unlimited.

Yes.....we know....you guys take that to mean you can legislate away gun rights as long as BB guns are still legal with strict government supervision........

we already limit gun rights to law abiding citizens...that is all we need......and if you break the law....you go to jail....done...
 
Tell that to the 2 million people a year that use them for defense of their lives and property. You must be on a respirator because you're obviously to stupid to breathe.
When you call someone stupid, you should use correct English. My point is that you do not need a gun to defend your life and property. Americans are living in the safest time and place in history.


Yeah, the cops have plenty of crime scene tape and chalk, right? That's all the protection we need according to idiots such as yourself. Crime is going down as gun ownership increases, that should tell you something.
Crime going down has nothing to do with gun ownership.


CDC Study: Use of Firearms for Self-Defense is ‘Important Crime Deterrent’
Has gun ownership in Chicago brought down crime?

Yes...a couple of mass public shootings were stopped and robberies have been stopped...the problem in chicago isn't law abiding gun owners....the problem is the criminals who are caught with guns and are sentenced to 6 months to less than 2 years......that is the problem...considering long before concealed carry was allowed, and gun ownership was allowed in the city, criminals were still using illegally owned guns to shoot each other...
 
My question is where do gun nuts draw the line? Like when it comes to open carry, what rules should it have? Should it have no rules? Like some dumb redneck carrying a gun into a bar til 2 AM is okay? Anyone should be allowed to do that?
.

First off, the fact that you are being hostile towards people with a different opinion of your own by calling them gun nuts shows that once again you really are not interested in any kind of serious discussion. Second, what you suggest is already legal here in Nevada and we have had no issues. As a matter of fact, I was out with a buddy of mine a few months ago at a bar and he had a handgun tucked in to a holster in the back of his jeans and he is not a dumb redneck. He happens to be a very successful insurance agent who makes about three quarters of $1 million a year
In Nevada, anyone can carry a weapon anywhere, anytime?

Like is it in their fantasy for it to one day be legal for anyone to open-carry automatic rifles whenever and where ever?

My question is where do gun nuts draw the line? Like when it comes to open carry, what rules should it have? Should it have no rules? Like some dumb redneck carrying a gun into a bar til 2 AM is okay? Anyone should be allowed to do that?

As usual republicans struggle with nuance when it comes to political issues they are obsessed with. For example, cons will likely reply to this thread and start making the ridiculous claim that I think the 2nd amendment should be overturned. I don't. I also don't think semi-automatics should be illegal. I support laws that are designed to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. I also think open carry is ridiculous.

It doesn't really matter if I say all of that though. In their minds I'm a "snowflake" that is outraged over boys playing with toy guns. I'm nothing but a naive, pretentious "libtard" with a Gender's Studies degree who thinks guns are evil. Cliche is something easy for republicans to grasp I guess.

Open carry is legal anywhere except schools and government buildings. Concealed requires a permit

I think the premise is important. The government doesn't permit me to own a gun. I already have that right.

However, if they want to take away my constitutional right the burden is on them as to why.

This indirectly makes my point.

 
...How does that simple philosophy translate into gun laws?

Looks like you are still here Billy000 and you still have an enquiring mind. But I can tell if you just like to argue or if you want someone to explain to you philosophically why people today should be allowed to keep guns in their homes and carry them on their person in public?

The answers to all these questions are contained within a very long U.S. Supreme Court decision linked below:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

However if you are not a good reader and/or you do not have any basic legal skills it won't make much sense to you.

In a nutshell, the late Justice Scalia explains that the Constitution via the 2nd Amendment gives everyone the right to own acceptable firearms in their homes for home protection. He then leaves to the various States the power to determine whether or not these people may have the additional right to bear their arms in public either openly or concealed or not at all. He also defines acceptable guns as those which have militia application. He disqualifies sawed off shotguns as unfit for militia duty and therefore calls them "destructive devices" not subject to private ownership.

This is the answer to all of your questions. But I am sure you probably won't get it.

In a nutshell, anything that is more like a "destructive device" is not appropriate for civilian ownership. Ergo, sawed off shotguns, rocket launchers, flame throwers, grenade launchers, hand grenades -- these items are all destructive devices.

Don't argue with me (or anyone else) about assault weapons. That is simply a legislative matter, same as submachine guns, belt fed machine guns, fully auto firearms, etc.


Sorry....the sawed off shotgun was a bad ruling...a stupid ruling...and hopefully that dumb thing will be overturned soon...if you can carry a pistol a short shot gun isn't a problem......that is the craziness of anti gunners....
 
Like is it in their fantasy for it to one day be legal for anyone to open-carry automatic rifles whenever and where ever?

My question is where do gun nuts draw the line? Like when it comes to open carry, what rules should it have? Should it have no rules? Like some dumb redneck carrying a gun into a bar til 2 AM is okay? Anyone should be allowed to do that?

As usual republicans struggle with nuance when it comes to political issues they are obsessed with. For example, cons will likely reply to this thread and start making the ridiculous claim that I think the 2nd amendment should be overturned. I don't. I also don't think semi-automatics should be illegal. I support laws that are designed to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. I also think open carry is ridiculous.

It doesn't really matter if I say all of that though. In their minds I'm a "snowflake" that is outraged over boys playing with toy guns. I'm nothing but a naive, pretentious "libtard" with a Gender's Studies degree who thinks guns are evil. Cliche is something easy for republicans to grasp I guess.
:lmao:
Well snowflake, more frivolous laws equal more crime. And you can take your gender studies degree and shove it up your ass.
The evil is progressive control freaks like yourself… Fact
 
None. Im thnking they got plenty and most are useless. Matter of fact, I would love to have short barrled rifles off the regulated list as well as suppressors. That way I could go back to shooting in my back yard, and if I ever had to blast a hood rat in my house I wouldn't damage my hearing.
Okay so you're saying it is impossible for a gun control law to be good? Why?


In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.

First Reports Evaluating the Effectiveness of Strategies for Preventing Violence: Firearms Laws
lol any gun control laws that get passed are always either weak or watered down. Nothing substantial ever gets passed. What you don't know is that gun control laws in Australia work. Gun violence took a nose dive in that country. Mass shootings, specifically.


Read and learn.

AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
No as I said It was mass shootings that took a nose dive. People could still legally own guns you turd so of course wide gun violence didn't decline. They banned semi automatic weapons.


That isn't true....I have a long list of shootings in Australia that happened after the ban and the only reason they weren't mass shootings was the shooter didn't decide to shoot more people.....that talking point is a lie....and a myth......

The people below had guns.....they could have walked into a mall, a school or a theater and shot up the place...they just did not choose to do it...so the talking point that the Australian gun control laws stopped mass shootings in Australia is a lie....

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

25 January 1996 – Hillcrest murders – Peter May shot and killed his three children, his estranged wife and her parents in the Brisbane suburb of Hillcrest before killing himself.[54]
  • 16 August 1998 – Victorian police officers Gary Silk and Rodney Miller were shot dead in an ambush by Bendali Debs and Jason Joseph Roberts in the Moorabbin Police murders.
  • 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
  • 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
  • 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
  • 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
  • 23 May 2012 – Christopher 'Badness' Binse, a career criminal well known to police, was arrested after a 44-hour siege at an East Keilor home in Melbourne's north west. During the siege, Binse fired several shots at police and refused to co-operate with negotiators; eventually tear gas had to be used to force him out of the house, at which point he refused to put down his weapon and was then sprayed with a volley of non-lethal bullets.[citation needed]
  • 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
  • 9 September 2014 – Lockhart massacre – Geoff Hunt shot and killed his wife, Kim, his 10-year-old son Fletcher, and his daughters Mia, eight and Phoebe, six before killing himself on a farm in Lockhart in the Riverina district near Wagga Wagga New South Wales. The body of Geoff Hunt and a firearm are later found in a dam on the farm by police divers and a suicide note written by Geoff Hunt is also found inside the house on the farm.[citation needed]
  • 7 November 2014 – Jordy Brook carjacked a Channel 7 news cameraman at gun point during a crime spree on the Sunshine Coast, Queensland. He was later captured and arrested by police after luring police on a high speed chase and crashing the car.[citation needed

  • 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
  • 27 June 2015 – Hermidale triple murder – the bodies of three people, two men and a woman are found shot dead on a property in a rural farming community in the town of Hermidale west of Nyngan, the bodies of 28-year-old Jacob Cumberland his father 59-year-old Stephen Cumberland and a 36-year-old woman were found with gun shot wounds, the body of Jacob Cumberland was found on the drive way of the property, the body of the 36-year-old woman was found in the backyard of the property and the body of Stephen Cumberland was found in a burnt out caravan on the property. 61-year-old Allan O'Connor is later arrested and charged with the murders.
  • 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.

  • 2 October 2015 - 2015 Parramatta shooting On 2 October 2015, Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, a 15-year-old boy, shot and killed Curtis Cheng, an unarmed police civilian finance worker, outside the New South Wales Police Force headquarters in Parramatta, Australia. Jabar was subsequently shot and killed by special constables who were protecting the police station.
Here is a neater list.....

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia
  • 16 January 1998 to 15 June 2009 – Melbourne gangland killings – A series of 35 murders of crime figures and their associates that began with the slaying of Alphonse Gangitano in his home, most likely by Jason Moran, the latest victim being Des Moran who was murdered in Ascot Vale on 15 June 2009.


  • 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria at La Trobe university in Melbourne, Victoria, armed with a 38-calibre revolver handgun and opened fire, killing cafeteria manager Leon Capraro and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
21st century[edit]
2000s[edit]

  • 13 March 2000 – Millewa State Forest Murders – Barbara and Stephen Brooks and Stacie Willoughby were found dead, all three having been shot execution style and left in the forest.[62][63]


  • 16 July 2001 – Peter James Knight, an anti-abortion activist, walked into an abortion clinic in East Melbourne armed with a rifle. Knight shot dead security guard Stephen Gordon Rogers and was later overpowered by staff in the abortion clinic. After his arrest, Knight was charged and convicted of murder. He was sentenced to life in prison.
  • 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
  • 14 October 2002 – Dr. Margret Tobin, the South Australian head of Mental Health Services, was shot dead by Jean Eric Gassy as she walked out of a lift in her office building.
  • 21 October 2002 – Monash University shootingHuan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
  • 25 October 2003 – Greenacre double murder – A man and a woman are shot dead in a house in the suburb of Greenacre, Sydney which was the result of a feud between two Middle Eastern crime families. Twenty-four-year-old Ziad Abdulrazak was shot 10 times in the chest and head and 22-year-old Mervat Hamka was shot twice in the neck while she slept in her bedroom. Up to 100 shots were fired into the house by four men who were later arrested and convicted of the murders.


  • 18 February 2006 – Cardross Hit and Run – Thomas Graham Towle crashed his car at high speed into a group of 13 teenagers, killing six and injuring seven near the town ofCardross, Victoria.[73]
  • 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[75]
 
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First off, the fact that you are being hostile towards people with a different opinion of your own by calling them gun nuts shows that once again you really are not interested in any kind of serious discussion. Second, what you suggest is already legal here in Nevada and we have had no issues. As a matter of fact, I was out with a buddy of mine a few months ago at a bar and he had a handgun tucked in to a holster in the back of his jeans and he is not a dumb redneck. He happens to be a very successful insurance agent who makes about three quarters of $1 million a year
In Nevada, anyone can carry a weapon anywhere, anytime?

Open carry is legal anywhere except schools and government buildings. Concealed requires a permit
Okay and no problems whatsoever have arisen because of those laws?

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.
Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?
Because it's a right, people don't need guns to be evil you ************. You Should've learned that in elementary school.:lmao:
 
None. Im thnking they got plenty and most are useless. Matter of fact, I would love to have short barrled rifles off the regulated list as well as suppressors. That way I could go back to shooting in my back yard, and if I ever had to blast a hood rat in my house I wouldn't damage my hearing.
Okay so you're saying it is impossible for a gun control law to be good? Why?


In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.

First Reports Evaluating the Effectiveness of Strategies for Preventing Violence: Firearms Laws
lol any gun control laws that get passed are always either weak or watered down. Nothing substantial ever gets passed. What you don't know is that gun control laws in Australia work. Gun violence took a nose dive in that country. Mass shootings, specifically.


Read and learn.

AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN
No as I said It was mass shootings that took a nose dive. People could still legally own guns you turd so of course wide gun violence didn't decline. They banned semi automatic weapons.


And the myth of Australian gun control laws working is just that, a myth....

Gun city: Young, dumb and armed

The notion that a military-grade weapon could be in the hands of local criminals is shocking, but police have already seized at least five machine guns and assault rifles in the past 18 months. The AK-47 was not among them.

Only a fortnight ago, law enforcement authorities announced they were hunting another seven assault rifles recently smuggled into the country. Weapons from the shipment have been used in armed robberies and drive-by shootings.

These are just a handful of the thousands of illicit guns fuelling a wave of violent crime in the world’s most liveable city.

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Despite Australia’s strict gun control regime, criminals are now better armed than at any time since then-Prime Minister John Howard introduced a nationwide firearm buyback scheme in response to the 1996 Port Arthur massacre.

Shootings have become almost a weekly occurrence, with more than 125 people, mostly young men, wounded in the past five year

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While the body count was higher during Melbourne’s ‘Underbelly War’ (1999-2005), more people have been seriously maimed in the recent spate of shootings and reprisals.

Crimes associated with firearm possession have also more than doubled, driven by the easy availability of handguns, semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and, increasingly, machine guns, that are smuggled into the country or stolen from licensed owners.

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These weapons have been used in dozens of recent drive-by shootings of homes and businesses, as well as targeted and random attacks in parks, shopping centres and roads.

“They’re young, dumb and armed,” said one former underworld associate, who survived a shooting attempt in the western suburbs several years ago.

“It used to be that if you were involved in something bad you might have to worry about [being shot]. Now people get shot over nothing - unprovoked.”

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Gun crime soars
In this series, Fairfax Media looks at Melbourne’s gun problem and the new breed of criminals behind the escalating violence.

The investigation has found:

  • There have been at least 99 shootings in the past 20 months - more than one incident a week since January 2015
  • Known criminals were caught with firearms 755 times last year, compared to 143 times in 2011
  • The epicentre of the problem is a triangle between Coolaroo, Campbellfield and Glenroy in the north-west, with Cranbourne, Narre Warren and Dandenong in the south-east close behind
  • Criminals are using gunshot wounds to the arms and legs as warnings to pay debts
  • Assault rifles and handguns are being smuggled into Australia via shipments of electronics and metal parts
In response to the violence, it can be revealed the state government is planning to introduce new criminal offences for drive-by shootings, manufacturing of firearms with new technologies such as 3D printers, and more police powers to keep weapons out of the hands of known criminals.
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The second part of the series....


Gun city: Gunslingers of the North West


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'Thousands' of illegal guns tipped to be handed over in firearms amnesty

Asked roughly how many he expected to be handed in, Mr Keenan said: "Look I certainly think the number will be in the thousands."

The Australian Crime Commission estimated in 2012 there were at least 250,000 illegal guns in Australia. But a Senate report noted last year it was impossible to estimate how many illicit weapons are out there.

But....military weapons?

And despite Australia's strict border controls, the smuggling of high-powered military-style firearms is also a growing problem.
 
Open carry is legal anywhere except schools and government buildings. Concealed requires a permit
Okay and no problems whatsoever have arisen because of those laws?

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.
Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?


Is there something about "shall not be infringed" that confuses you?
So let me ask you this: should anyone be allowed to carry any automatic weapon anywhere, anytime? How about an RPG launcher? Should it be legal to carry any of those fuckers around? Where do you draw the line? Is there no line at all?
The country has much bigger fish to fry. Shit for brains
2016 Real Time Death Statistics in America
 
Open carry is legal anywhere except schools and government buildings. Concealed requires a permit
Okay and no problems whatsoever have arisen because of those laws?

Much safer for law abiding citizens. The castle law in Florida put a stop to home invasions and car jackings. You can shoot the criminal scumbags dead and you can't be sued by their families either.
Ok but what justifies open carry anytime, anywhere?


Read the 2nd..
The 2nd amendment doesn't say anything about "anytime" or anywhere. In fact, it barely says anything at all. Of course, the 1st amendment has clear limitations like defamation and child pornography


The First makes no no statement about defamation or child porn.........we have laws that govern that, but the right is not stopped til after those laws are broken, not before........
 

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