Do not fall for people who CLAIM TO BE LIBERTARIAN, only to censor speech more than anyone else

[MarathonMike]

the LP has gotten a lot worse than just disagreeing,,

my hopes are the Mises caucus can gain a stronger foot hold and run the closet progressives off,,

Today's Libertarian is a far cry from the truly open and inclusive Libertarian I remember 20 or 30 years ago.

 

[dblack]

Today's Libertarian is a far cry from the truly open and inclusive Libertarian I remember 20 or 30 years ago.

I can only suggest you never got it in the first place.

 

[progressive hunter]

Today's Libertarian is a far cry from the truly open and inclusive Libertarian I remember 20 or 30 years ago.

I think human nature has a lot to do with it,,

freedom isnt free and it takes work to keep it,,
some people get sedentary and become apathetic,
and in this case progressives have snuck in and slowly over yrs changed the meaning of libertarian just like the way they changed liberal,,

 

[BrokeLoser]

Today's Libertarian is a far cry from the truly open and inclusive Libertarian I remember 20 or 30 years ago.

Evidenced by dblack and Harpy Eagle ‘s posts here…todays Libertarian is really just a bat-shit crazy leftist who talks about freedom and fiscal responsibility.

 

[MarathonMike]

I can only suggest you never got it in the first place.

You're ok, but you are the exception from what I see today in the party.

 

[FA_Q2]

I dont understand the mass hysteria. If you look beyond the hyperbole, he isnt any different than any other pol.

He tried to subvert the last election and appoint himself the president even though he lost the election.

He put in place a SCOTUS that has declared he can order seal team 6 to kill his political rivals and that action would be protected from criminal prosecution. Or selling pardons. Or taking bribes. On and on.

So, yes, he has done things that are FAR different from all past leaders. Either of those is sufficient.

But worst of all, he created the Trump voter, people that are so disconnected from reality that there is nothing left.

 

[FA_Q2]

Today's Libertarian is a far cry from the truly open and inclusive Libertarian I remember 20 or 30 years ago.

Bullshit.

The only libertarian that you like is one that is a closet republican. You guys have been assuming libertarians are just republicans for decades. We are not.

 

[FA_Q2]

Love it. Freedom of speech in action!

The fact that Trump was even on stage at a libertarian even is astoundingly insane. They are supposed to be opposing the 2 major parties, not kowtowing to one of them.

The party has been lost for awhile now though, it is tough to run a party when most of the core values are counter to government in the first place.

 

[MarathonMike]

Bullshit.

The only libertarian that you like is one that is a closet republican. You guys have been assuming libertarians are just republicans for decades. We are not.

dblack is a closet Republican? LOL I don't this so.

I assumed Libertarians were Independents but by all means, why don't you define what you think Libertarians are.

 

[Billiejeens]

Voting for someone means you are showing support for who they are and their policies.

Support 5th party candidates.

 

[Billiejeens]

The fact that Trump was even on stage at a libertarian even is astoundingly insane. They are supposed to be opposing the 2 major parties, not kowtowing to one of them.

The party has been lost for awhile now though, it is tough to run a party when most of the core values are counter to government in the first place.

They aren't a serious party.

 

[Mac-7]

Yep, agreed.
Reminds me of trump supporters calling themselves conservatives, or big govt bootlickers calling themselves liberal.

Trump is far more conservative than harris and walz

 

[Billiejeens]

dblack is a closet Republican? LOL I don't this so.

I assumed Libertarians were Independents but by all means, why don't you define what you think Libertarians are.

DB has some conservative tendencies

 

[Billiejeens]

He tried to subvert the last election and appoint himself the president even though he lost the election.

He put in place a SCOTUS that has declared he can order seal team 6 to kill his political rivals and that action would be protected from criminal prosecution. Or selling pardons. Or taking bribes. On and on.

So, yes, he has done things that are FAR different from all past leaders. Either of those is sufficient.

But worst of all, he created the Trump voter, people that are so disconnected from reality that there is nothing left.

You are an idiot.

 

[MarathonMike]

DB has some conservative tendencies

As you would expect from a true Independent.

 

[Billiejeens]

As you would expect from a true Independent.

Why ?

 

[Beekeeper]

Lots of cafeteria style, left leaning "libertarians." They think being libertarian and calling themselves libertarian is edgy and cool.

 

[FA_Q2]

They aren't a serious party.

That is true, unfortunately. They are the largest and most effective 3rd party there is which is a sad state of affairs for most people who are not represented by the 2 major parties.

 

[FA_Q2]

You are an idiot.

Case in point.

 

[Billiejeens]

That is true, unfortunately. They are the largest and most effective 3rd party there is which is a sad state of affairs for most people who are not represented by the 2 major parties.

We have a 2 party system