'Disturbed white males' are the most dangerous people in the country: Michael Moore s

[frigidweirdo]

I think young thug black men are the most dangerous people in America

What about people like Timothy McVeigh? He killed a lot of people.

The reality is, dangerous people are the most dangerous in the US, it doesn't matter their color, if someone's trying to kill you, then they're dangerous.

But there is an issue with black people committing crime, why is that? And what are people going to do about it?

Are they just going to say "well everyone can make it in the USA"?
Or actively seek the causes of the problems and try and make sure they don't happen in the future?

 

[jknowgood]

But the majority of wars are started by white men. Wars where mass murder, torture, rape, robbery, embezzlement, and any other criminal action is entirely justified despite international laws written by the United States of America in the first place.

Just when you thought liberals could not possibly make a dumber post.....

Tell me how I'm wrong. Rich white men do not start wars where crimes are legal? Who went to prison for Bush's torture program? Was Rafid al-Janabi executed for lying America into war? Was Colon Powell imprisoned for life for knowingly giving false information to the United Nations? Was anyone punished for the Iraq war besides Bradley Manning and hundreds of thousands of civilians?

Well bin laden died because waterboarding was done, you give obama all the credit. You dumb ass.

 

[Theowl32]

I think young thug black men are the most dangerous people in America

What about people like Timothy McVeigh? He killed a lot of people.

The reality is, dangerous people are the most dangerous in the US, it doesn't matter their color, if someone's trying to kill you, then they're dangerous.

But there is an issue with black people committing crime, why is that? And what are people going to do about it?

Are they just going to say "well everyone can make it in the USA"?
Or actively seek the causes of the problems and try and make sure they don't happen in the future?

Well, it took till the 5th page, but finally a liberal asshole brings up Timothy McVeigh.

He has really become a liberal folk hero. If not for him, they would bring up Eric Rudolph.

Ever notice how the left brings up Bill Ayers? I notice they don't.


MCVEIGH!!!!!

MCVEIGH!!!!!

MCVEIGH!!!!

Want to get into a comparison of crimes committed by blacks in this country as opposed to whites? Want to really have this comparison.....fuckin weirdo?

Ok, let me start it by listing these murderers that never really got any sort of real press. Of course



http://libguides.lib.msu.edu/content...696&sid=405414

1. Matthew Emanuel Macon (Murdered and Raped 5 White Women in Lansing)
2. Jimmie Reed (Murdered his wife and his 2 month old daughter and set them on fire)
3. Shelly Brooks (Murdered 7 prostitutes in Detroit Cass Corridor)
4. Justin Blackshere (Stabbed two white cooks at Cheli’s Chili downtown Detroit)
5. Jervon Miguel Coleman (Murdered three people.)
6. Donell Ramon Johnson (Murdered a mother and a daughter)
7. Brian Ranard Davis (6 women known murdered )
8. Paul Durousseau (Seven women)
9. Mark Goudeau “The Baseline Killer” (Eight women and a man in 2005-2006)
10. Coral Eugene Watts (11 women in Texas & 1 in Michigan)
11. Anthony McKnight (Five girls and young women)
12. Derrick Todd Lee (8 Women)
13. Charles Lendelle Carter (4 known murders; admits to ‘hunting’ Atlantans for 15 years!)
14. The Zebra Killings (71 White people)
15. Chester Turner (L.A.s most prolific killer 12 women killed.)
16. Lorenzo J. Gilyard (Kansas City, MO.—13 victims)
17. Eugene Victor Britt (Gary, IN.–3 known murder/rapes.)
18. Reginald and Jonathan Carr (The Wichita Massacre–6 Whites murdered)
19. Ray Joseph Dandridge and his uncle, Ricky Gevon Gray (Richmond, VA.–Murdered 7 people in 7 days, including an entire White family.)
20. The Tinley Park Murderer (Suspect hasn’t been found but has been described as black – murdered 5 women in a store.)
21. Henry Louis Wallace (Raped and strangled 5 women to death.)
22. Charles Johnston (Murdered 3 unarmed white men in hospital)
23. Craig Price (Brutally murdered 3 women)
24. Harrison Graham (Brually Murdered 3 women)
25. Charles Lee “Cookie” Thornton (Murdered 6 Whites at the Kirkwood, MO. city council. )
26. & 27. Darnell Hartsfeld & Romeo Pinkerton (Abducted and Murdered 5 from a restaurant)
28 &29. John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo (Sniped 11 people from a car in DC, 9 died.)
30. George Russell (3 women, WA state)
31. Timothy W. Spencer (5 killed, Arlington, VA and Richmond, VA)
32. Elton M. Jackson (12 gay men killed, Norfolk, VA area)
33. Carlton Gary (3 killed in Columbus, GA)
34. Mohammed Adam Omar (16 women, Yemen. Omar is Sudanese.)
35. Kendall Francois (8 women, Poughkeepsie, NY and surrounding areas.)
36. Terry A. Blair (8 women, Kansas City area)
37. Wayne Williams (33 many of them children!, Atlanta, GA)
38. Vaughn Greenwood (11 killed in LA)
39. Andre Crawford (10 killed in Chicago – southside)
40. Calvin Jackson (9 killed possibley more in NY)
41. Gregory Klepper (killed 8, Chicago – southside)
42. Alton Coleman (Killed 8 in the Midwest)
43. Harrison Graham (killed 7+ in N. Philadelphia)
44. Cleophus Prince (6 killed in, San Diego
45. Robert Rozier (7 killed in, Miami)
46. Maurice Byrd (killed 20 + in St. Louis)
47. Maury Travis (17 and rising, St. Louis and possibly also Atlanta)
48. Hulon Mitchell, a.k.a. Yahweh Ben Yahweh (killed 20+ in Florida)
49. Lorenzo Fayne (killed 5 children in East St. Louis, IL)
50. Paul Durousseau, (killed 6, two of which were pregnant women, Jacksonville, FL; Georgia.)
51. Eddie Lee Mosley (killed 25 to 30 women, south Florida)
52. Henry Lee Jones (killed 4 in, south Florida; Bartlett, TN)
53. Richard “Babyface” Jameswhite (15 killed in, New York; Georgia.)
54. Donald E. Younge, Jr. (killed 4), East St. Louis, IL; Salt Lake City, UT.
55. Ivan Hill (killed 6 in Los Angeles area).
56. Michael Vernon (Bronx, NY. Killed at least seven people – )
57. Chester Dewayne Turner (12 women killed in, Los Angeles)


You know what I also find interesting too? How the media says there were 7 that died in a mass shooting.

No, 4 died from shooting, 3 died from a stabbing, and one died from being run over by a car. However, the headlines, they way it is reported is.........................

Let me list them

California Shooting Suspect Elliot Rodger's Life of Rage and Resentment

Elliot Rodger Carried Multiple Guns During Shooting

Victim’s Dad Outraged By Shooting, Makes Emotional Plea


Those were all of the MSNBC headlines. It took me a while to read where they reported that 3 were stabbed to death and the other was hit by his car. Sort of buried really.

Not even Clinton News Network did that.

Ok, Freakinweirdo, you wanted to compare lists since you brought up McVeigh in such a predictable way.

I will wait for your list. Just to let you know, I have about one thousand cases of what can be classified as MASS MURDER.

 

[blackhawk]

So who commits the majority of the non mass shootings? Would that be the calm rational non white males?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Well, it took till the 5th page, but finally a liberal asshole brings up Timothy McVeigh.

Oh, I'm sorry, the American terrorist who killed the most people in one attack on his own people shouldn't be mentioned because you're a little sensitive about it?

Are people not allowed to make points now?

He has really become a liberal folk hero. If not for him, they would bring up Eric Rudolph.

Ever notice how the left brings up Bill Ayers? I notice they don't.


MCVEIGH!!!!!

MCVEIGH!!!!!

MCVEIGH!!!!

Want to get into a comparison of crimes committed by blacks in this country as opposed to whites? Want to really have this comparison.....fuckin weirdo?

Well aren't you a happy chappy who's going to make a great point? Or maybe you've just gone off the rails and the point has been completely lost to your furious mind. Oh well. I guess you're just having a bad [insert a period of time from day to life].

Ok, let me start it by listing these murderers that never really got any sort of real press. Of course

I will wait for your list. Just to let you know, I have about one thousand cases of what can be classified as MASS MURDER.

Oh, you want this to be about lists. Sorry, i don't see the point. it's a dumb sort of argument.

Do you want to go back and read what I actually read? I made a point that not only black people are the most dangerous, HOWEVER there is an issue within the black community that nobody is dealing with effectively.

There you go, my point. You pick up on a statement at the top, you go all guns blazing and you miss the point completely and totally. Well done. Sit down, perhaps shoot up some drugs to calm yourself down, or watch some porn or something and come back when you're willing to talk properly.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Here is the 2011 stats---Look at these through the reality that blacks are only 13% of the population.
FBI ? Expanded Homicide Data Table 6
White 2,630, black 2,447

Honestly, who's more dangerous?

Blacks are nearly 5 times as likely to murder. So how could whites be the most dangerous? This is when you consider the reality that some of the murders in the white column are Hispanic non-whites. Do you assholes have anything besides your hatred of whites????

 

[ScienceRocks]

So who commits the majority of the non mass shootings? Would that be the calm rational non white males?

Look at the news coming out of Chicago. You honestly believe blacks also holding the title of mass shootings?

These people shouldn't be thought of as intellectual, but liars.

 

[RoadVirus]

Fatass Michael Mooron waddles back into the spotlight with another stupid comment.

 

[Rocko]

I think young thug black men are the most dangerous people in America

What about people like Timothy McVeigh? He killed a lot of people.

The reality is, dangerous people are the most dangerous in the US, it doesn't matter their color, if someone's trying to kill you, then they're dangerous.

But there is an issue with black people committing crime, why is that? And what are people going to do about it?

Are they just going to say "well everyone can make it in the USA"?
Or actively seek the causes of the problems and try and make sure they don't happen in the future?

Young black men are the most dangerous members in our society. We're far from identifying solutions to that problem. We're not even allowed to acknowledge the problem.

 

[Mustang]

Aren't the vast majority of American serial killers White males?

 

[Rocko]

Aren't the vast majority of American serial killers White males?

No that's another left-wing myth.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Blacks are nearly 5 times as likely to murder. So how could whites be the most dangerous? This is when you consider the reality that some of the murders in the white column are Hispanic non-whites. Do you assholes have anything besides your hatred of whites????

Depends on how you want to look at things really. You can make stats say a lot of thing. What does it actually mean though?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Young black men are the most dangerous members in our society. We're far from identifying solutions to that problem. We're not even allowed to acknowledge the problem.

Yes, that is part of the problem that certain people have a tendency of crying "racist" whenever anyone talks about something.

However I also think that not enough is being done because A) govt doesn't give a damn, it doesn't make politicians money to deal with the poorer people, so they don't bother and B) people have this individualistic view that is so damaging to society as a whole, that they don't care either.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Aren't the vast majority of American serial killers White males?

No that's another left-wing myth.

So you have the numbers that prove that false?

 

[Meathead]

Aren't the vast majority of American serial killers White males?

No that's another left-wing myth.

So you have the numbers that prove that false?

Serial and rampage killing is likely the only criminal endeavour outside of white collar crime where blacks are in proportion to population. Most other crimes they commit at double or triple the rate of other demographics. About half the murders committed by 13% of the population is mindboggling.

 

[The Breeze]

I wonder if this thread turned out like the op planned.

 

[FJO]

'Disturbed white males' are the most dangerous people in the country: Michael Moore"

His chubbiness must have come to that conclusion when he was gazing at the mirror, contemplating about his crockumentaries.

Perhaps he found conscience and integrity?

 

[Freewill]

Repeat of a previous post, seems people forget. I am not sure why race is even brought into the mix. I guess racists don't realize they are racist.

OK, here is a site that seems to present the FBI statistics in a non-biased way, enjoy. Hate to be the one to say this but the perception of reality is that whites do this out of proportion to the population. Why that is, in my opinion, is that the MSM treats the killing of white people, especially children, as a bigger news story then the killing of non whites. So Moore's perception of reality is that whites do nearly all of the killings, when in fact it is Moore who does not do his homework he just bloviates which is the worse thing a person can do. But it seems to be the norm for the past 7 years.

The Myths and Misconceptions About Serial Killers

Myth: Serial Killers Are All White Males
The racial make-up of known serial killers generally matches the racial diversification of the overall U.S. population, according to the report.

•Charles Ng, a native of Hong Kong, China, possibly tortured and killed as many as 25 people with his partner, Robert Lake.

•Derrick Todd Lee, a black man from Louisiana, killed at least six women in Baton Rouge.

•Coral Eugene Watts, a black man from Michigan, known as the Sunday Morning Slasher, killed 17 people in Michigan and Texas.

•Rafael Resendez-Ramirez, a Mexican national, killed nine people in Kentucky, Texas, and Illinois.

•Rory Conde, a Colombian native, murdered six prostitutes in the Miami area.

 

[mudwhistle]

Michael Moore speaks out after latest U.S. mass shooting in California | Mail Online

The filmmaker behind Bowling for Columbine has responded to calls for comment following the latest U.S. mass shooting.

Michael Moore wrote a Facebook post describing America's national symbol as the gun, not the bald eagle.

'With due respect to those who are asking me to comment on last night’s tragic mass shooting ... I no longer have anything to say about what is now part of normal American life,' Moore wrote.

'Everything I have to say about this, I said it 12 years ago,' he said, referencing his 2002 documentary in which he explored the possible causes of the horrific Columbine High School massacre in 1999 carried out by teens Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.


Read more: Michael Moore speaks out after latest U.S. mass shooting in California | Mail Online
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Aaaaand the liberals are quick to blame white people for this.

Michael Moore is a hypocrite.

This liar pushes a Progressive agenda excoriating Capitalism all the while he's raking in the dough from his movies. He constantly tells America how much he hates it at the same time he's taking our money and using it to pay his armed security staff at his gated mansion, after getting $58 million for his movie, "Bowling For Columbine" which launched his career. He wants to take our guns away because he thinks America is unsafe to live in. Sounds pretty paranoid to me.

He is a fat, disgusting, pig with nothing more than a big mouth. They say he's worth $50 million, which isn't considered much. It seems that everyone has gotten wise to this loud-mouthed bastard. Nobody listens to him anymore except liberals.

Michael Moore, Hypocrite and Liar « Commentary Magazine
Is Michael Moore a hypocrite?
Why Michael Moore is a Big Fat Hypocrite » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

 

[frigidweirdo]

No that's another left-wing myth.

So you have the numbers that prove that false?

Serial and rampage killing is likely the only criminal endeavour outside of white collar crime where blacks are in proportion to population. Most other crimes they commit at double or triple the rate of other demographics. About half the murders committed by 13% of the population is mindboggling.

Not necessarily.

National Poverty Center | University of Michigan

22% of children under the age of 18 are in poverty.
38.2% of blacks
35% of hispanics
13.6% of Asians
12.4% of white non-hispanics

Or for all people

"Poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics greatly exceed the national average. In 2010, 27.4 percent of blacks and 26.6 percent of Hispanics were poor, compared to 9.9 percent of non-Hispanic whites and 12.1 percent of Asians."

Poverty Facts | Poverty Rate, Poverty Thresholds & Census Information

"According to 2012 US Census Data, the highest poverty rate by race is found among Blacks (27.2%), with Hispanics (of any race) having the second highest poverty rate (25.6%). Whites had a poverty rate of 9.7%, while Asians had a poverty rate at 11.7%."

FBI ? Expanded Homicide Data Table 3

31.4% of murders are committed by white, 37.9% by black, 29% are unknown.

13-16 year olds see 125 murders who are white and 188 who are black. Which is 38% white and 57% for black.

For 17-19 years olds it's 35% white and 62.5% black
For 20-24 year olds it's 36% white and 60.6% black
For 25-29 year olds it's 41% white and 55% black
For 30-34 year olds it's 49.6% white and 47.4% black
For 35-39 year olds it's 56.7% white and 38.6% black
For 40-44 year olds it's 60.3% white and 35.7% black
For 45-49 year olds it's 60.3% white and 35.7% black
For 50-54 year olds it's 63.4% white and 30.5% black
For 55-59 year olds it's 69% white and 28.1% black

You can see the pattern here.

Race - The Black Alone Population in the United States: 2012 - People and Households - U.S. Census Bureau

Table 1 (on excel) shows that up until 44 years of age aproximately, black people have a higher proportion of their population compared to white people. White people are more likely to be older.

So 20-24 years olds there 3.3 million and 12.3 million white people. So we're looking at nearly 4 white people aged 20-24 for every one black person. However clearly our murder offenders at this age are disproportionately black.

1,549 murders of 3.3 million people, so one murder for every 2130 black people.
918 murders of 12.3 million people, so one murder for every 13,398 white people.

Which is a massive difference.

But from 45-54 years old what do we have?
290 murders of 5.4 million people, so one murder for every 18620 white people
535 murder of 29.8 million people, so one murder for every 55700 white people

Still much higher for black people.

27.2% of black people in poverty, 9.9% for white people.

So the rate at which black people aged 45-54 murder is 2.99 higher than white people, per capita.

Based on poverty the rate is 2.7 black people in poverty for every white person.

The figures aren't that much different. It's what I expected to find.

The US poverty rate for black people is almost comparable to the murder rate for 45-54 year olds. Clearly there are a lot less murders.

If we look younger the stats are going to be a little bit out, because age brackets are not similar.
However we see nearly double the murders by black kids as by white kids. 452-800 yet there are 3.3 million kids aged 15-19 compared to 11 million white kids. So nearly three times higher. Which gives a rate of about 1 white murderer to 6 black murders at this age.

38.2% of black children are in poverty. Yes, 17-19 isn't necessarily child, but it's coming out of childhood and a point where childhood has a massive impact. This is compared to 12.4% of white kids. This is three times higher.
So why is the murder rate for this age group double poverty rates yet at the age of 45-54 it's about the same?

I think most people would point to gang violence, the type of area poor kids are living in.

If you look at chart 11 you see the types of family households that do exist.
28% of black people are married family households compared to 51.9% for white people. This is more than 2 times higher.

Inner-City Poverty in the United States

This is dated data, but it says 2% of all whites in poverty in 1980 were living in inner city ghettos, 21.1% of all blacks in poverty were living in ghettos.
This has a massive impact on the statistics. Kids growing up in inner city ghettos are far more likely to be involved in gangs, drugs and murder.

So it's hardly surprising that the crime figures are how they are.
Are black people more dangerous? Or are those who are born into inner city ghettos more dangerous and it just so happens many more black people are living in inner city ghettos with poor education, poor family life if any, poor skills for the future in the legitimate world and growing up seeing it's a white man's world?

Now the question is, if this is the case, what are people going to do about it?