Freedom of association has everything to do with choosing who you will or will not associate or do business with.Wrong.Freedom of association.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
'Freedom of association' has nothing whatsoever to do with necessary, proper, and Constitutional public accommodations laws.
Discrimination is a fundamental human right.
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Freedom of association has everything to do with choosing who you will or will not associate or do business with.Wrong.Freedom of association.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
'Freedom of association' has nothing whatsoever to do with necessary, proper, and Constitutional public accommodations laws.
Takes some powerful blinders to walk around that one.
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Wrong.Freedom of association.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
'Freedom of association' has nothing whatsoever to do with necessary, proper, and Constitutional public accommodations laws.
The expansive interpretation of the commerce clause gives the modern statist an excuse in nearly any circumstance, and needs to squarely overruled.
ChrisL
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Freedom of association.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
Nope. Wrong.
ChrisL
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There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
Really? So the girl who turned down my invitation to the senior prom because I wasn't cool enough had no right to do so?
Hopefully this is just a joke.
ChrisL
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What else can one say?
Ravi
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Right and you are welcome to choose not to run a public accommodation business.Freedom of association has everything to do with choosing who you will or will not associate or do business with.Wrong.Freedom of association.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
'Freedom of association' has nothing whatsoever to do with necessary, proper, and Constitutional public accommodations laws.
Ravi
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Have you even licensed your business and if so is it considered a public accommodation business?Wrong.Freedom of association.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
'Freedom of association' has nothing whatsoever to do with necessary, proper, and Constitutional public accommodations laws.
The expansive interpretation of the commerce clause gives the modern statist an excuse in nearly any circumstance, and needs to squarely overruled.
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Have you even licensed your business and if so is it considered a public accommodation business?Wrong.Freedom of association.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
'Freedom of association' has nothing whatsoever to do with necessary, proper, and Constitutional public accommodations laws.
The expansive interpretation of the commerce clause gives the modern statist an excuse in nearly any circumstance, and needs to squarely overruled.
There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
Really? So the girl who turned down my invitation to the senior prom because I wasn't cool enough had no right to do so?
Hopefully this is just a joke.
It's not a joke at all. How far should the government go to ensure we treat each other equally? It think most of us recognize that the public accommodations things is little more than a convenient excuse to suppress bigotry. What if government decides to suppress something you feel strongly about?
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There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
Really? So the girl who turned down my invitation to the senior prom because I wasn't cool enough had no right to do so?
Were you hiring a hooker?
No, but that's actually an excellent example. In states where prostitution is legal, should hookers have the right to refuse service to anyone they want? Or should the only have to right to say "no" if the government approves of their reason?
Ravi
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Who is most of us, you and your mouse?Have you even licensed your business and if so is it considered a public accommodation business?Wrong.Freedom of association.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
'Freedom of association' has nothing whatsoever to do with necessary, proper, and Constitutional public accommodations laws.
The expansive interpretation of the commerce clause gives the modern statist an excuse in nearly any circumstance, and needs to squarely overruled.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
Really? So the girl who turned down my invitation to the senior prom because I wasn't cool enough had no right to do so?
Hopefully this is just a joke.
It's not a joke at all. How far should the government go to ensure we treat each other equally? It think most of us recognize that the public accommodations things is little more than a convenient excuse to suppress bigotry. What if government decides to suppress something you feel strongly about?
ChrisL
Diamond Member
Have you even licensed your business and if so is it considered a public accommodation business?Wrong.Freedom of association.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
'Freedom of association' has nothing whatsoever to do with necessary, proper, and Constitutional public accommodations laws.
The expansive interpretation of the commerce clause gives the modern statist an excuse in nearly any circumstance, and needs to squarely overruled.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
Really? So the girl who turned down my invitation to the senior prom because I wasn't cool enough had no right to do so?
Hopefully this is just a joke.
It's not a joke at all. How far should the government go to ensure we treat each other equally? It think most of us recognize that the public accommodations things is little more than a convenient excuse to suppress bigotry. What if government decides to suppress something you feel strongly about?
As you've been told, you are free to be an ass and discriminate against whomever you wish in your private life. If you open a business, the rules are different.
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Well, it's a debate forum. If you want to be taken seriously you usually need to say why you think someone is wrong.
ChrisL
Diamond Member
There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
Really? So the girl who turned down my invitation to the senior prom because I wasn't cool enough had no right to do so?
Were you hiring a hooker?
No, but that's actually an excellent example. In states where prostitution is legal, should hookers have the right to refuse service to anyone they want? Or should the only have to right to say "no" if the government approves of their reason?
The SEX INDUSTRY is not considered a "public accommodation business."
ChrisL
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Well, it's a debate forum. If you want to be taken seriously you usually need to say why you think someone is wrong.
For all the reasons you've already been told numerous times. Don't play dumb.
Ravi
Diamond Member
Not to mention that anyone is free to say I won't serve you because I think you're an asshole.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
Really? So the girl who turned down my invitation to the senior prom because I wasn't cool enough had no right to do so?
Were you hiring a hooker?
No, but that's actually an excellent example. In states where prostitution is legal, should hookers have the right to refuse service to anyone they want? Or should the only have to right to say "no" if the government approves of their reason?
The SEX INDUSTRY is not considered a "public accommodation business."
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There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
Really? So the girl who turned down my invitation to the senior prom because I wasn't cool enough had no right to do so?
Hopefully this is just a joke.
It's not a joke at all. How far should the government go to ensure we treat each other equally? It think most of us recognize that the public accommodations things is little more than a convenient excuse to suppress bigotry. What if government decides to suppress something you feel strongly about?
As you've been told, you are free to be an ass and discriminate against whomever you wish in your private life. If you open a business, the rules are different.
Only a little. You can still discriminate against most people. As long as you steer clear of the protected classes.
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Well, it's a debate forum. If you want to be taken seriously you usually need to say why you think someone is wrong.
For all the reasons you've already been told numerous times. Don't play dumb.
I'm not playing dumb. I don't expect you to understand the subtleties of the debate we're having about inalienable rights, but Pratchettfan claimed that the post in question proved I was wrong. How exactly? Do you know?
ChrisL
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Well, it's a debate forum. If you want to be taken seriously you usually need to say why you think someone is wrong.
For all the reasons you've already been told numerous times. Don't play dumb.
I'm not playing dumb. I don't expect you to understand the subtleties of the debate we're having about inalienable rights, but Pratchettfan claimed that the post in question proved I was wrong. How exactly? Do you know?
I don't know what you are talking about. I am telling you that if you open a business and openly discriminate against certain groups of American citizens, then you will be answering for it. It's ignorant.
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Not to mention that anyone is free to say I won't serve you because I think you're an asshole.There is no "right" to discriminate fools!
Really? So the girl who turned down my invitation to the senior prom because I wasn't cool enough had no right to do so?
Were you hiring a hooker?
No, but that's actually an excellent example. In states where prostitution is legal, should hookers have the right to refuse service to anyone they want? Or should the only have to right to say "no" if the government approves of their reason?
The SEX INDUSTRY is not considered a "public accommodation business."
So far. That might get added to the PC list though. What if it is? Would you still support the law?
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