BlindBoo
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hahhaha Obama bailed on a "Free and Stable" Iraq...and allowed his JV team to form a bloody, deadly, and horrible calipiateYep...what's your point? And Obama and Xiden where handed a free and stable Iraq, but failed to extend in SOFA...thus leaving the door open for ISIS and Iran to pick apart the newly formed Govt...He didn't need UN approval to invade..he had the US Congressional approval.NO IT WASN"T....there was no condition to get UN approval first...stop lying...I and you yourself posted a link to the Authorization and nowhere is that a conditionWe have never, nor do we need to now, have the permission of the UN to do anything.hahahha what BS....they voted to authorize the us of military force in Iraq...there was NOT one stipulation about going to the UN....not that it would ever be necessary...but in fact one of the main factors was the fact they voted to liberate Iraq, a few years earlier during the Clinton admin
AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) Authorization.--The President is authorized to use the Armed
Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and
appropriate in order to--
(1) defend the national security of the United States
against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council
resolutions regarding Iraq.
Iraq was not a threat to the worlds remaining super power. The UN did not authorize the use of military force by any member state to invade Iraq.
Text - H.J.Res.114 - 107th Congress (2001-2002): Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002
Text for H.J.Res.114 - 107th Congress (2001-2002): Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002www.congress.gov
It was one of the conditions for the Determination Power Congress was abdicating to the President.
What was GW announcing when he was greeted at the press conference with a couple of shoes?
Could it have been that SOFA that the UN forced him into negotiating with the Iraqis?
The journalist (got three years by the way) threw the shoes in 2008 at Bush during a Press Confernce. The journalist was upset that Obama and won, and Bush left the country with Obama and Xiden....
Not if Iraq proved to be a threat, but UNSC resolutions to invade and occupy Iraq were def. addressed, and could have been used as of one of the conditions. He didn't get one for the invasion, but he got one for the occupation. Which the UN revoked. It ended the last day of 2008.
The question was what was President Bush announcing that day, not why he was greeted with flying shoes.
We did not leave Iraq in 2008....
It was at a Press Conf. He was answering questions
"Bush’s fleeting visit to Baghdad was aimed at marking the recent passage of a U.S.-Iraq security pact that paves the way for U.S. troops to pull out of Iraqi cities by July next year and withdraw completely by the end of 2011."
Bush on farewell visit to Iraq dodges flying shoes
An Iraqi reporter called President George W. Bush a "dog" and threw his shoes at him on Sunday, sullying a farewell visit to Baghdad meant to mark greater security in Iraq after years of bloodshed.www.reuters.com
I thought it was great the way he adeptly ducked the flying shoes.
Iran is mostly Shiite and ISIS is mostly Sunnis. The Iraqis government was already aligned with Iran.
Obama said it was...he admitted that was what he was handed. " But we’re leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people." Obama Remarks by the President and First Lady on the End of the War in IraqSorry there was nothing in the Congressional Authorization of Force that required us to get any sort of UN agreement. Stop lying.No he didn't....he certainly made this case to them...and wanted a vote...but didn't need it.yeah i provided the link...we didn’t need the UN. He got congress thoughhahahha what BS....they voted to authorize the us of military force in Iraq...there was NOT one stipulation about going to the UN....not that it would ever be necessary...but in fact one of the main factors was the fact they voted to liberate Iraq, a few years earlier during the Clinton admin
AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) Authorization.--The President is authorized to use the Armed
Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and
appropriate in order to--
(1) defend the national security of the United States
against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council
resolutions regarding Iraq.
Iraq was not a threat to the worlds remaining super power. The UN did not authorize the use of military force by any member state to invade Iraq.
Text - H.J.Res.114 - 107th Congress (2001-2002): Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002
Text for H.J.Res.114 - 107th Congress (2001-2002): Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002www.congress.gov
He enforced UN resolutions...that the UN wasn’t. Of course they were a threat...read the entire resolution Xiden and company outlines all the threats
But he did need the UN or don't you remember him asking the UN for help when the occupation went FUBAR? Don't you remember it was the UN that forced Bush to negotiate the SOFA and withdrawal of 2008?
They were no threat. SCR 1441 superseded all other Iraqi resolutions and the invasion hinged on the final round of weapons inspections. Until Bush decided to invade. It wasn't Clinton who decided. It wasn't Biden who made that decision or anyone else not president Bush. He was given the power to decide and he did.
The Iraq War was a success, before Obama took office...even Obama admitted his was left a free and stable Iraq.
We didn't withdraw in 2008
Bush invaded because Saddam wouldn't allow the inspections and repeated violated UN resolutions, as well as attempted to assassinate our President, among other things listed in the resolution. You are either lying, repeating lies, or uninformed...I am guessing all three
We agreed to 1441 which require another resolution to authorize military action. But like you said he didn't really need it because we are the most powerful military and we can veto any SC resolution condemning us. But after we won, and the Occupation went sideways, he asked the UN for a mandate for the occupation and got it. That mandate expired in 2008. Which is why GW had to negotiate with the Iraqis for a SOFA. The Iraqis demanded a complete US withdrawal before 2012. GW signed that agreement at in 2008.
It's was a strategist blunder and the region is still in flux.
The Iraq War was a success...Bush left Obama with a free and stable Iraq....Obama and Xiden's foreign policy blunder was unable to extend our SOFA, and then announced when we'd be leaving...which created a power vaccum and a date for ISIS and Iran to pick apart the newly formed Govt.
Iraq wasn't free and stable at all. They couldn't even control the highway from Baghdad to the airport. I stopped counting at 600 acts of sabotage in the pipelines and oil facilities ... and ISIS was boiling up out the abuse of Iranian Maliki.
ISIS didn't care who was President of Iraq....they wanted a caliphate.....and got one, thanks to Obama and Xiden's failed foreign policies
Yep the Iraqis Shiite majority played nice and promised to continue to play nice with the Sunni minority but guess what? They didn't. Obama was forced to confront them when they attacked the oil hub of Erbil.
Obama's coalition was able to deny ISIS it's Caliphake without reinvading the region with US combat troops.