Did Trump really try to ‘overthrow the government’ / ‘overturn the election’ or was he simply hoping to postpone the results pending an investigation?

[BrokeLoser]

J6 was an insurrection, undoubtedly. Any who deny it should be investigated stringently for support before, during, and or after the event.

but but but….We swear, Republicans are authoritarian fascists.

 

[rightwinger]

So the election should be postponed until Trump admits he lost?

 

[Moonglow]

Trump is guilty as charged

 

[Seymour Flops]

He didn’t exactly give “overthrow” orders to a bunch of old, slow, fat dudes in Carhartt gear did he?
He didn’t suggest that protesters fly in their Apache and Blackhawk choppers did he? He never suggested they storm the Capitol armed with bazookas, AR-15’s or those deadly flags and fire extinguishers did he?

Given the bizarre nature of the election, are we sure he wasn’t just hoping for Pence to delay certification while an investigation could prove there was no voter fraud?

Of course that is what he did. We knew that the day he did it, and we've known it every day since.

The TDS folk don't ask themselves 'what did Trump do,' they ask themselves 'is there any way we could get Trump for this?'

 

[The5thHorseman]

He didn’t exactly give “overthrow” orders to a bunch of old, slow, fat dudes in Carhartt gear did he?
He didn’t suggest that protesters fly in their Apache and Blackhawk choppers did he? He never suggested they storm the Capitol armed with bazookas, AR-15’s or those deadly flags and fire extinguishers did he?

Given the bizarre nature of the election, are we sure he wasn’t just hoping for Pence to delay certification while an investigation could prove there was no voter fraud?

But DoJ WAS investigating the claims and told Grifty they were baseless.

 

[rightwinger]

Of course that is what he did. We knew that the day he did it, and we've known it every day since.

The TDS folk don't ask themselves 'what did Trump do,' they ask themselves 'is there any way we could get Trump for this?'

Trump makes it so easy
He is his own worst enemy

Every charge is a result of bad Trump decisions and attempts to cover up

 

[Seymour Flops]

So the election should be postponed until Trump admits he lost?

Different question.

1) We know what Trump did, which was exactly what the OP described.

2) We know that was not illegal, so we know that the prosecution is fraudulent.

3) Whether Trump should have done what he did is a different question, and a fairly interesting one.

I would be happy to debate anyone about 3), so long as they understand the truth of 1) and 2). If not, then I would not bother debating someone who is that out of touch with reality.

 

[rightwinger]

Different question.

1) We know what Trump did, which was exactly what the OP described.

2) We know that was not illegal, so we know that the prosecution is fraudulent.

3) Whether Trump should have done what he did is a different question, and a fairly interesting one.

I would be happy to debate anyone about 3), so long as they understand the truth of 1) and 2). If not, then I would not bother debating someone who is that out of touch with reality.

1) and 2) are partisan opinions

The charges are serious enough to prosecute. The jury will decide if the charges have merit, not a partisan message board poster

 

[miketx]

Trump is guilty as charged

Of what, manguzzler?

 

[Moonglow]

Of what, manguzzler?

Of his convictions.

 

[miketx]

Of his convictions.

Right, you lying scum never can say what the crimes are because you lying scum know there aren't any.

 

[surada]

He didn’t exactly give “overthrow” orders to a bunch of old, slow, fat dudes in Carhartt gear did he?
He didn’t suggest that protesters fly in their Apache and Blackhawk choppers did he? He never suggested they storm the Capitol armed with bazookas, AR-15’s or those deadly flags and fire extinguishers did he?

Given the bizarre nature of the election, are we sure he wasn’t just hoping for Pence to delay certification while an investigation could prove there was no voter fraud?

Trump has never produced any evidence for his lies about the election.

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[rightwinger]

Trump has never produced any evidence for his lies about the election.

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The Kraken told him it was stolen

 

[miketx]

Trump has never produced any evidence for his lies about the election.

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You feckless liars don't accept proof.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Given the bizarre nature of the election, are we sure he wasn’t just hoping for Pence to delay certification while an investigation could prove there was no voter fraud?

Delay is the crime. Read the indictment.

 

[Moonglow]

Right, you lying scum never can say what the crimes are because you lying scum know there aren't any.

it is a public record for those who have the inability to realize reality.

 

[Moonglow]

Trump has never produced any evidence for his lies about the election.

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They don't need any since they can trust Trump and all his truth-telling, lol.

 

[miketx]

it is a public record for those who have the inability to realize reality.

Indeed, you scum live in a world made of lies.

 

[Moonglow]

Indeed, you scum live in a world made of lies.

I am sorry you have a hard-on for a criminal, I can only do it for chicks.

 

[miketx]

Trump has never produced any evidence for his lies about the election.

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You scum don't accept evidence, you just lie more.