Did Trump really try to ‘overthrow the government’ / ‘overturn the election’ or was he simply hoping to postpone the results pending an investigation?

[BrokeLoser]

He didn’t exactly give “overthrow” orders to a bunch of old, slow, fat dudes in Carhartt gear did he?
He didn’t suggest that protesters fly in their Apache and Blackhawk choppers did he? He never suggested they storm the Capitol armed with bazookas, AR-15’s or those deadly flags and fire extinguishers did he?

Given the bizarre nature of the election, are we sure he wasn’t just hoping for Pence to delay certification while an investigation could prove there was no voter fraud?

 

[kyzr]

Goobers by any other name...

 

[Oddball]

 

[sealybobo]

He didn’t exactly give “overthrow” orders to a bunch of old, slow, fat dudes in Carhartt gear did he?
He didn’t suggest that protesters fly in their Apache and Blackhawk choppers did he? He never suggested they storm the Capitol armed with bazookas, AR-15’s or those deadly flags and fire extinguishers did he?

Given the bizarre nature of the election, are we sure he wasn’t just hoping for Pence to delay certification while an investigation could prove there was no voter fraud?

He wanted to interrupt the process and cause confusion with fake electors so the process would stop and either the Supreme Court would decide or the Senators would decide. Ether way, he felt like he would win those scenarios.

Bush and his team did the same thing in Florida in 2000. Republican national operatives were sent to the Florida recount to disturb the process. They got angry and stared a riot. Google Brooks Brother Riot. That riot stopped the Florida recount and sent the decision to the US Federal Supreme Court, which we know is corrupt and leans right.

Look at the comments the Supreme Court righties made in Gore v Bush. Their justifications for giving it to Bush were ridiculous.

And Diebold Voting Machines in FLorida 2000. Google Diebold Voting Machines. Now their machines were hacked and helped Bush win. The owner of Diebold was a huge part of rigging Ohio in 2004.

Trump was simply doing what Republicans do when they lose. Only it wasn't close enough to steal. Trump just looked stupid. All but 3 of his closest insiders now say he is guilty of trying to steal the election. Barr was going along until he realized history would just him for it. Pence is our best witness. And he don't lie. Even Trump said, "you're too honest". So don't say Pence is lying.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

He didn’t exactly give “overthrow” orders to a bunch of old, slow, fat dudes in Carhartt gear did he?
He didn’t suggest that protesters fly in their Apache and Blackhawk choppers did he? He never suggested they storm the Capitol armed with bazookas, AR-15’s or those deadly flags and fire extinguishers did he?

Given the bizarre nature of the election, are we sure he wasn’t just hoping for Pence to delay certification while an investigation could prove there was no voter fraud?

Yes. He tried to overthrow the government by trying to halt and then trying to have thrown out the certification of electoral votes from a free and fair election..which he lost. He whipped his supporters up at the Elipse to make that happen.
When that didn't work, his lackeys in the Senate were the ones that suggested delaying certification for an "investigation". Pence never waivered from his Constitutional stance.

 

[TNHarley]

Now their machines were hacked

how convenient

 

[Oddball]

He wanted to interrupt the process and cause confusion with fake electors so the process would stop and either the Supreme Court would decide or the Senators would decide. Ether way, he felt like he would win those scenarios.

Bush and his team did the same thing in Florida in 2000. Republican national operatives were sent to the Florida recount to disturb the process. They got angry and stared a riot. Google Brooks Brother Riot. That riot stopped the Florida recount and sent the decision to the US Federal Supreme Court, which we know is corrupt and leans right.

Look at the comments the Supreme Court righties made in Gore v Bush. Their justifications for giving it to Bush were ridiculous.

And Diebold Voting Machines in FLorida 2000. Google Diebold Voting Machines. Now their machines were hacked and helped Bush win. The owner of Diebold was a huge part of rigging Ohio in 2004.

Trump was simply doing what Republicans do when they lose. Only it wasn't close enough to steal. Trump just looked stupid. All but 3 of his closest insiders now say he is guilty of trying to steal the election. Barr was going along until he realized history would just him for it. Pence is our best witness. And he don't lie. Even Trump said, "you're too honest". So don't say Pence is lying.

They used punch cards, not computerized machines, in Florida in 2000, sub-moron.

The USSC also told the FLSC to enforce the current election laws as written, which meant recount the entire state, not just cherry picked jurisdictions.

We realize that you're giving it your all to out-stoopit Sundra to maintain your title as the forum's most stoopit poster, but it looks like you're slipping fast.

 

[mamooth]

The USSC also told the FLSC to enforce the current election laws as written, which meant recount the entire state, not just cherry picked jurisdictions.

And if they had done that, Gore would have won.

Don't rewrite history so inepty, little commie. Thousands of votes in Florida were never counted even once. The machines spit them out without counting them, and there they sat, uncounted. If they had been counted, Gore would have won handily, since "overvotes with clear voter intent" were legal votes under every version of Florida law.

The chads never meant crap. The chads were just an excuse Republicans used to stop the counting of legal votes.

You cheated. You won. Get over it already, and stop lying about it.

 

[Oddball]

And if they had done that, Gore would have won.

Don't rewrite history so inepty, little commie. Thousands of votes in Florida were never counted even once. The machines spit them out without counting them, and there they sat, uncounted. If they had been counted, Gore would have won handily, since "overvotes with clear voter intent" were legal votes under every version of Florida law.

The chads never meant crap. The chads were just an excuse Republicans used to stop the counting of legal votes.

You cheated. You won. Get over it already, and stop lying about it.

I voted for Harry Browne that election, dumbfuck.

The history of that shit show is exactly as described...So suck on it, crackpot.

 

[BULLDOG]

He didn’t exactly give “overthrow” orders to a bunch of old, slow, fat dudes in Carhartt gear did he?
He didn’t suggest that protesters fly in their Apache and Blackhawk choppers did he? He never suggested they storm the Capitol armed with bazookas, AR-15’s or those deadly flags and fire extinguishers did he?

Given the bizarre nature of the election, are we sure he wasn’t just hoping for Pence to delay certification while an investigation could prove there was no voter fraud?

Doesn't matter what he wanted. Doesn't matter what he intended. What matters is he intentionally broke the law no matter what justification he thought he had.

 

[Billiejeens]

He didn’t exactly give “overthrow” orders to a bunch of old, slow, fat dudes in Carhartt gear did he?
He didn’t suggest that protesters fly in their Apache and Blackhawk choppers did he? He never suggested they storm the Capitol armed with bazookas, AR-15’s or those deadly flags and fire extinguishers did he?

Given the bizarre nature of the election, are we sure he wasn’t just hoping for Pence to delay certification while an investigation could prove there was no voter fraud?

Yes
That was always what was in the process of happening.
That is why the timing of the Democrat Caused Chaos was so critical.
As I have said from day 1.
It is all in the timing.

 

[BULLDOG]

He didn’t exactly give “overthrow” orders to a bunch of old, slow, fat dudes in Carhartt gear did he?
He didn’t suggest that protesters fly in their Apache and Blackhawk choppers did he? He never suggested they storm the Capitol armed with bazookas, AR-15’s or those deadly flags and fire extinguishers did he?

Given the bizarre nature of the election, are we sure he wasn’t just hoping for Pence to delay certification while an investigation could prove there was no voter fraud?

What he did do was intentionally break the law. Doesn't matter why he thought he could ignore our law

 

[Billiejeens]

What he did do was intentionally break the law. Doesn't matter why he thought he could ignore our law

Not remotely true.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Not remotely true.

Well, yes, it is. The law doesn't care what you think. It cares what you've done.

 

[Billiejeens]

And if they had done that, Gore would have won.

Don't rewrite history so inepty, little commie. Thousands of votes in Florida were never counted even once. The machines spit them out without counting them, and there they sat, uncounted. If they had been counted, Gore would have won handily, since "overvotes with clear voter intent" were legal votes under every version of Florida law.

The chads never meant crap. The chads were just an excuse Republicans used to stop the counting of legal votes.

You cheated. You won. Get over it already, and stop lying about it.

There was no scenario where Gore won.
Every Democrat News agency in the country explored that idea.
None could find a legit scenario.

 

[Billiejeens]

Well, yes, it is. The law doesn't care what you think. It cares what you've done.

Even better

Not what the indictment is about, but.
You should read the indictment.

 

[Oddball]

Doesn't matter what he wanted. Doesn't matter what he intended. What matters is he intentionally broke the law no matter what justification he thought he had.

Oh.....the......irony.....

Comey: No evidence that Clinton acted with 'necessary criminal intent'

"I don't want to comment on people's public statements," Comey said in response to a question from Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Mich.).

www.politico.com

Fucking hack.

 

[mamooth]

There was no scenario where Gore won.

Did I stutter?

Overvotes with clear voter intent -- filling in the box and then writing in the same name -- were legal ballots under every version of Florida law.

If those ballots had been counted, Gore would have won easily.

Those ballots were never counted, not once.

You can have your own opinions, but you don't get to make up your own reality.

Every Democrat News agency in the country explored that idea.
None could find a legit scenario.

The very conservative MSM ran the story -- on page A16, right after it put highlighted "Bush Wins! on the front page. The nutty conservative media despised Al Gore with a white hot fire.

 

[Billiejeens]

Oh.....the......irony.....

Comey: No evidence that Clinton acted with 'necessary criminal intent'

"I don't want to comment on people's public statements," Comey said in response to a question from Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Mich.).

www.politico.com

Fucking hack.

You are going to have to explain that to him.

 

[Billiejeens]

Did I stutter?

Overvotes with clear voter intent -- filling in the box and then writing in the same name -- were legal ballots under every version of Florida law.

If those ballots had been counted, Gore would have won easily.

Those ballots were never counted, not once.

You can have your own opinions, but you don't get to make up your own reality.


The very conservative MSM ran the story -- on page A16, right after it put highlighted "Bush Wins! on the front page. The nutty conservative media despised Al Gore with a white hot fire.

Mostly you are just a fucking moonbat lying idiot.