Did Pretti act lawfully?

[rightwinger]

Pretti was on the ground.
Babbit was the spearhead breaking and entering into a restricted secret service zone. The first of a thousand people behind her chanting they wanted to kill the president of the senate

Hang Mike Pence

 

[Hafar1014]

You think the spearhead of an armed mob, that had already injured dozens and dozens of police officers. Broke down barricades, doors and windows, and was now after at the last barricade protecting the legislators sheltering from assault on the Capitol.

It has to be an imminent threat by law. That never happened. You do believe in law right

 

[Hafar1014]

Yes it does. That is why lefties are happy he interfered and was killed.

They incited the proest in the hopes something like this would happen

 

[postman]

I have already laid out that Babbitt deserved to get shot because she was not heeding officer commands, interfering with officers doing their jobs, and represented a threat to officers. This was the same criteria in the cases of Goode and Pretti though Goode was using her vehicle as a weapon and Pretti was armed. Babbit was unarmed.

With Good, the officer intentionally put himself in front of the vehicle, even as Good backed up away from him, and made a hard right to not hit him as she drive forward.

Pretti was unarmed by ICE before he was shot.
They continued to shoot him over and over and over for 5 seconds
as he lay face down, covered in ICE agents.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Babbit was not shot while being restrained by a half dozen officers. At the time Pretti was murdered he had been disarmed.

Where has it been factually proven Pretti was disarmed? He had been armed and representing a threat to Federal law enforcement. We can continue splitting hairs but the Left set a precedent for Federal law enforcement to shoot anyone not heeding police orders and not heeding police orders.

 

[postman]

... and Pretti was armed. Babbit was unarmed.

remember that while you're reading the constitution, and get to the 2nd amendment.

 

[postman]

It has to be an imminent threat by law. That never happened. You do believe in law right

It's right next to the castle doctrine.
She was breaking and entering. If it was your house or your business the law doesn't require you wait until the intruder gets all the way inside, or displays a weapon. Once any part of their body, like their head, crosses the threshold, you're authorized to use lethal force.

 

[postman]

We can continue splitting hairs but the Left set a precedent for Federal law enforcement to shoot anyone not heeding police orders and not heeding police orders.

I'll need a citation for that one.

 

[Hafar1014]

With Good, the officer intentionally put himself in front of the vehicle, even as Good backed up away from him, and made a hard right to not hit him as she drive forward.

Pretti was unarmed by ICE before he was shot.
They continued to shoot him over and over and over for 5 seconds
as he lay face down, covered in ICE agents.

When Goode stepped on the gas she crossed the line and created an imminent threat. She did strike him. If she was trying to avoid him she would have moved very slowly. She was reckless with a 4000nd car. It doesnt matter where he was standing you dont have the right to run over him. Case law supports use of deadly force when a car is used as weapon or with reckless endangerment. She was lawfully shot.

 

[LeftofLeft]

With Good, the officer intentionally put himself in front of the vehicle, even as Good backed up away from him, and made a hard right to not hit him as she drive forward.

Good intentionally used her car to obstruct and threaten Federal law enforcement from doing their jobs. When she pulled forward, she also had her partner cheering “drive baby drive”.

Pretti was unarmed by ICE before he was shot.
They continued to shoot him over and over and over for 5 seconds
as he lay face down, covered in ICE agents.

Why was Pretti armed in the first place and assaulting ICE vehicles? The ICE officer shooting Pretti may get charged if it is proven Pretti was unarmed. My point is that Good and Pretti at some point were not obeying police commands, obstructing police, and representing threats to Federal law enforcement. These factors were also the case when Babbitt was shot. The Left is simply partisan about each shooting. They cheered Federal law enforcement for shooting Babbitt and they cried about it when Good and Pretti were shot by Federal Law enforcement.

 

[ColonelAngus]

They incited the proest in the hopes something like this would happen

100% accurate.

Every lefty is HOPING another useful idiot obstructing the deportation of illegal aliens is killed.

 

[postman]

When Goode stepped on the gas she crossed the line and created an imminent threat. She did strike him. If she was trying to avoid him she would have moved very slowly. She was reckless with a 4000nd car. It doesnt matter where he was standing you dont have the right to run over him. Case law supports use of deadly force when a car is used as weapon or with reckless endangerment. She was lawfully shot.

When she stepped on the gas, going maybe 5 miles per hour as she passed the agent.

Remember, she was on SNOW, and traction wouldn't allow her to accelerate very fast, which puts her speed well under any imminent threat of death or serious injury.

And the weight of the vehicle means nothing. It's the weight times the speed, which in this case was less energy than their bulletproof vests were rated to protect them from.

 

[postman]

My point is that Good and Pretti at some point were not obeying police commands, obstructing police, and representing threats to Federal law enforcement.

Now interfering is a threat to federal law enforcement?

What is this now? Kent State?

Four dead in oh-hi-oh

 

[WorldWatcher]

Yes we need to see the statement from the cop who shot him. What compelled him to shoot? What was he thinking.

Wanna bet it includes "I feared for my life..." (Leaving out he just watched the officer in the gray coat exit the scrum with the firearm).

And

"I had a reasonable view that the suspect was an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury..." (Leaving out the part that the suspect on the time was on the ground, unarmed, his hands holding a phone in front of him, and blinded and sever pain after being OC sprayed twice and beat about the head by an officer with an OC Spray can.

WW

 

[konradv]

100% accurate.

Every lefty is HOPING another useful idiot obstructing the deportation of illegal aliens is killed.

There’s an easy solution; arrest people, don’t execute them.

 

[LeftofLeft]

There’s an easy solution; arrest people, don’t execute them.

I think a better solution is to not proactively and physically threaten law enforcement - especially when armed or using your vehicle as a weapon.

 

[Hafar1014]

Wanna bet it includes "I feared for my life..." (Leaving out he just watched the officer in the gray coat exit the scrum with the firearm).

And

"I had a reasonable view that the suspect was an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury..." (Leaving out the part that the suspect on the time was on the ground, unarmed, his hands holding a phone in front of him, and blinded and sever pain after being OC sprayed twice and beat about the head by an officer with an OC Spray can.

WW

Its not what he thinks its what a reasonable man believes. It has to be proven its not an opinion. Like us we dont buy it

 

[Hafar1014]

When she stepped on the gas, going maybe 5 miles per hour as she passed the agent.

Remember, she was on SNOW, and traction wouldn't allow her to accelerate very fast, which puts her speed well under any imminent threat of death or serious injury.

And the weight of the vehicle means nothing. It's the weight times the speed, which in this case was less energy than their bulletproof vests were rated to protect them from.

None of that matters a slow moving 4000 pound car is still dangerous. All she had to do was nothing. She made a poor choice. She was lawfully killed. I would not have shot her if it was me involved. I would have shot the tires. An act can be legal and still not be the best choice. She became cannon fodder for democrats

 

[konradv]

I think a better solution is to not proactively and physically threaten law enforcement - especially when armed or using your vehicle as a weapon.

None of those are capital offenses, Dr. Fascisto.

 

[Hafar1014]

None of those are capital offenses, Dr. Fascisto.

Using a car as weapon will get you shot. Pointing a gun will also get you shot