Did Pretti act lawfully?

[konradv]

Using a car as weapon will get you shot. Pointing a gun will also get you shot

Neither of those things happened. MAGA lies.

 

[Hafar1014]

Neither of those things happened. MAGA lies.

Goode used her car as a weapon

 

[WorldWatcher]

Goode used her car as a weapon

No she didn't.

The videos cleary show she was attempting to drive away. Both the rear video that shows her tires being turned away from the officer and Officer Ross's own video through the windshield showing her cranking the steering wheel to her right (resulting the tire redirecting).

WW

 

[Hafar1014]

No she didn't.

The videos cleary show she was attempting to drive away. Both the rear video that shows her tires being turned away from the officer and Officer Ross's own video through the windshield showing her cranking the steering wheel to her right (resulting the tire redirecting).

WW

She struck the agent, just driving the car away crosses the line.

 

[LeftofLeft]

None of those are capital offenses, Dr. Fascisto.

Tell that to Ashley Babbitt….. shot dead unarmed at the US Capitol by a Federal Police Officer because he felt threatened. He could have easily fired shots in the air and Ashley and fellow protestors would have dispersed.

You people are always trying to have it both ways. Try being consistent in your logic.

 

[WorldWatcher]

She struck the agent, just driving the car away crosses the line.

You statement was intended to use inflamatory language, "Goode used her car as a weapon".

No, she didn't use her car as a weapon, she was attempting to use it as an escape vehicle.

Two different things.

Officer Ross's shot through the windshield? Understandable.

Officer Ross shooting through the driver side window after clearing the front to put a round through her head? Not reasonable.

Once he was clear of the front there was no imminent threat.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Tell that to Ashley Babbitt….. shot dead unarmed at the US Capitol by a Federal Police Officer because he felt threatened. He could have easily fired shots in the air and Ashley and fellow protestors would have dispersed.

You people are always trying to have it both ways. Try being consistent in your logic.

Police are trained not to fire warning shots. Such shots can pass through walls, ceilings, and floors and/or ricochet.

WW

 

[LeftofLeft]

Police are trained not to fire warning shots. Such shots can pass through walls, ceilings, and floors and/or ricochet.

WW

More restraints on police.

 

[Hafar1014]

He resorted to being an idiot.

He did but he never met the test for use of deadly force.

 

[Hafar1014]

You think the spearhead of an armed mob, that had already injured dozens and dozens of police officers. Broke down barricades, doors and windows, and was now after at the last barricade protecting the legislators sheltering from assault on the Capitol.

She did all that by herself ?

 

[postman]

None of that matters a slow moving 4000 pound car is still dangerous. All she had to do was nothing. She made a poor choice. She was lawfully killed. I would not have shot her if it was me involved. I would have shot the tires. An act can be legal and still not be the best choice. She became cannon fodder for democrats

All he had to do was stay out from in front of a motor vehicle, like every other cop does every day.
We also saw as Good was backing up AWAY from the officer, is when he reached for his gun.

Certainly someone driving AWAY from you, hasn't placed you in imminent danger. Yet he revealed his intentions by drawing his gun, while driving away from him.

 

[postman]

Using a car as weapon will get you shot. Pointing a gun will also get you shot

Pretti never pulled the gun from his holster.
This is probably why the FBI won't release the gun to the BCA, because the absence of Pretti's fresh fingerprints on the guns grips, means he never grabbed the gun.
Yet he got shot just for having one.
2nd amendment at it's finest.

 

[Hafar1014]

All he had to do was stay out from in front of a motor vehicle, like every other cop does every day.
We also saw as Good was backing up AWAY from the officer, is when he reached for his gun.

Certainly someone driving AWAY from you, hasn't placed you in imminent danger. Yet he revealed his intentions by drawing his gun, while driving away from him.

So if a person stands in front of my car can drive over him? She did strike him with her car. Use of a car to escape arrest driving recklessly does meet the legal standard for use of deadly force. She became a threat to all agents in her immediate area.
Hey If a person stands in front of my gun I can shoot him according to you.
All she had to do was follow directions and get out of the car. Or not obstruct and resists arrest. Or be there in the first place.

 

[postman]

She did all that by herself ?

That's the point. If she was alone, she wouldn't have presented an imminent deadly danger. She could have been delt with.
It's the other 1,000 people chanting to kill someone that was the danger.
And had she breeched the barricade, she would have let in the rest of the angry mob.

Your typical standoff where the person faces off mano-a-mano and is asked
"You and what Army?"
And she had an army of thousands right behind her.

 

[postman]

Use of a car to escape arrest driving recklessly does meet the legal standard for use of deadly force.

Absolutely NOT.
Officers are NOT allowed to shoot at moving vehicles unless the suspect is considered an imminent danger to public safety. As in they are a felon wanted for murder or assault. Or is a felon armed with a firearm.

You know the description from all the cop shows
"The suspect is to be considered ARMED and DANGEROUS"
And Good was neither.

 

[postman]

Hey If a person stands in front of my gun I can shoot him according to you.

That statement isn't within the same time zone of what I said.

 

[postman]

Tell that to Ashley Babbitt….. shot dead unarmed at the US Capitol by a Federal Police Officer because he felt threatened. He could have easily fired shots in the air and Ashley and fellow protestors would have dispersed.

You people are always trying to have it both ways. Try being consistent in your logic.

Re: He could have easily fired shots in the air.....

Police officers are no longer allowed to do that.
It's like the George Carlin hippie news report:

Headlines by George Carlin

Police fired over the heads of rioters today; however, they killed 200 people living on the second floor.

 

[Leo123]

Assault by getting his face in the way of pepper spray

He got sprayed for obstructing law enforcement. He had his mug where it didn’t belong.

 

[rightwinger]

He got sprayed for obstructing law enforcement. He had his mug where it didn’t belong.

Obstructing them from beating on a woman?

 

[Leo123]

Obstructing them from beating on a woman?

They were physically removing a loud mouthed nasty ***** who did not follow legal orders to keep her fat ass out of a legal enforcement action. She’s lucky all she got was a push.