Zone1 Despite the Democrats' Latest attempt, Men cannot get pregnant.

[martybegan]

I do.

Nope. you use words like that to make yourself look smart, just like trying to use arguments over the concept of time and physics to ignore biology and the IMPACTS of medical treatment.

 

[Curried Goats]

Nope. you use words like that to make yourself look smart, just like trying to use arguments over the concept of time and physics to ignore biology and the IMPACTS of medical treatment.

1. I am smart.

2. You're the one who tried (and failed) to effectively identify argumentative fallacies. It's not my fault you don't have a firm grasp on them.

3. Chemistry is one aspect of physics and biology (the study of living organisms) is made possible by chemical reactions.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Again, refer back to Yale School of Medicine.

Who do you think the vast majority considered an authority on the matter? You, rando internet guy, or Yale School of Medicine?

Any “authority” that tells me to believe what my own eyes, ears, and brain allow me to clearly see to be insane bullshit, is no authority at all.

If someone claiming to be a mathematician insists that two plus two equals ten, then I know not to believe anything that he tells me. Likewise, if someone who claims to be a “medical professional” tells me that a man can be a woman, then I know that he's full of shit.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

No one is "non-binary," because there are two sexes. Binary.

There are 10 kinds of people in the world—those who understand binary numbers, and those who do not.

 

[Curried Goats]

Any “authority” that tells me to believe what my own eyes, ears, and brain allow me to clearly see to be insane bullshit, is no authority at all.

As I expertly explained using your own previous example, you're eyes are limited in what they are able to see. They can't see large swaths of the electromagnetic spectrum nor can they see microscopic molecules and atoms and yet we know these things exist.

If someone claiming to be a mathematician insists that two plus two equals ten, then I know not to believe anything that he tells me.

You would know because you can add two plus two and come to your own conclusion. You have presented no countervailing trans research to support your conclusions.

Likewise, if someone who claims to be a “medical professional” tells me that a man can be a woman, then I know that he's full of shit.

I don't actually care if you trust the educators at Yale, the medical community itself does.

 

[Curried Goats]

Dunning–Kruger effect - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Can't discuss the topic rationally? Is that why you're focusing on me?

 

[hadit]

Ironically enough, both sides of the trans argument believe the same thing, there is something wrong with the person who wants to pretend to be something they are not.

One side says, "Let's help this person reconcile what their mind and body are saying that is so disparate" while the other side says, "Don't anyone dare to even think that anything's wrong with the person's mind. Obviously, the body is wrong so let's mutilate it and pump drugs into it until it resembles what it is not". Let's face reality here, mental and emotional health science is still in its infancy, and I predict that in the relatively near future people will look back at us and shutter at how barbaric we were. "Can you believe they used to actually cut off body parts just to make someone look like a man or a woman? It's too horrible to even contemplate".

I mean, it really wasn't that long ago that we killed an American president by draining his blood out of him, thinking we were curing him, and more recently shoved a sharp metal object into a person's brain to settle them down.

 

[Curried Goats]

Ironically enough, both sides of the trans argument believe the same thing, there is something wrong with the person who wants to pretend to be something they are not.

One side says, "Let's help this person reconcile what their mind and body are saying that is so disparate" while the other side says, "Don't anyone dare to even think that anything's wrong with the person's mind. Obviously, the body is wrong so let's mutilate it and pump drugs into it until it resembles what it is not". Let's face reality here, mental and emotional health science is still in its infancy, and I predict that in the relatively near future people will look back at us and shutter at how barbaric we were. "Can you believe they used to actually cut off body parts just to make someone look like a man or a woman? It's too horrible to even contemplate".

I mean, it really wasn't that long ago that we killed an American president by draining his blood out of him, thinking we were curing him, and more recently shoved a sharp metal object into a person's brain to settle them down.

Or strapping gay people to chairs and forcing them to watch hetero porn as "conversion therapy"....

 

[Soupnazi630]

You shouldn't deny science. Where do you imagine I've suggested you should?

Science does not support the wokke left's ideas about gender

 

[Curried Goats]

Science does not support the wokke left's ideas about gender

You know what would be a great way to prove that? With a rational counter argument supported by countervailing science.

 

[Soupnazi630]

You know what would be a great way to prove that? With a rational counter argument supported by countervailing science.

you know a better way?

Support your silly claim with science whichy ou have not done

 

[Curried Goats]

you know a better way?

Support your silly claim with science whichy ou have not done

I have but I'll happily do it again, and again and again if for nothing but to amuse myself at reading your replies.

Research on the Transgender Brain: What You Should Know

 

[hadit]

Or strapping gay people to chairs and forcing them to watch hetero porn as "conversion therapy"....

Like I said, it's in its infancy. At least that doesn't leave a young teenager with irreversible damage done to their bodies that they can't undo when they finally mature and realize they should never have done it.

 

[Curried Goats]

Like I said, it's in its infancy. At least that doesn't leave a young teenager with irreversible damage done to their bodies that they can't undo when they finally mature and realize they should never have done it.

Hormone therapy doesn't leave any lasting irreversible damage, or any damage and reassignment surgery isn't recommended for anyone under 18 or 16 with the consent of their parents and physicians.

 

[hadit]

Hormone therapy doesn't leave any lasting irreversible damage, or any damage and reassignment surgery isn't recommended for anyone under 18 or 16 with the consent of their parents and physicians.

Any time you mess with the normal growth and maturation of a person, you introduce unnecessary risk, and surgery should be treated like tattoos, almost impossible for minors to have done to them, and for the same reasons. They are not considered mature enough to make a permanent choice like that about their bodies.

 

[Curried Goats]

Any time you mess with the normal growth and maturation of a person, you introduce unnecessary risk, and surgery should be treated like tattoos, almost impossible for minors to have done to them, and for the same reasons. They are not considered mature enough to make a permanent choice like that about their bodies.

It is treated more seriously than tattoos. You need to be seeing a therapist for at least a year who will sign off on your surgery.

 

[hadit]

It is treated more seriously than tattoos. You need to be seeing a therapist for at least a year who will sign off on your surgery.

Good, and it should stay that way. Now, who is betting that it will with the current pressures?

 

[Curried Goats]

Good, and it should stay that way. Now, who is betting that it will with the current pressures?

You're talking political pressure, not counter prevailing medical opinions.

 

[hadit]

You're talking political pressure, not counter prevailing medical opinions.

Of course I am. Politics will remove barriers science puts in place.

 

[Curried Goats]

Of course I am. Politics will remove barriers science puts in place.

So to be clear you want politics to influence science. I'm glad you at least admitted it.