five year later? geez, if you can't figure out how to get an ID in five freaking years, it's not the law that's the problem
Democrats swipe photo ID on House floor to vote against photo IDs to vote.
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TheGreatSatan
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^^^ WEF/Democrat shillbots and NPCs do nothing but maliciously gaslight Americans
The only reason to be against voter ID is to cheat.
If it wasn't for fraud and harvesting mills democrats wouldn't win anywhere.
Democrats = traitors
The Safe Act isn't voter ID law, it is a proof of Citizenship to vote law... It is making it on the citizen to prove he is a citizen to vote... That is highly unconstitutional...
But as I said this is to stop 14.5m people from voting to stop a crime that has happened 77 times in 24 years...
REAL ID is not a proof of citizenship, it is issued to any one who is legally in the country.I scanned it before but totally missed "applicant."
Technically if this were passed in Texas it would not be a major issue as we already are set up for REAL ID, and require state issued ID to vote.
It would be a problem for women who have changed their name (marriage for example) or others who changed their name as the birth certificate would be different. The wife went through a freaking nightmare to get her expired passport renewed because of name change.
There is a mark meant to say it is temporary but the is 'generally' enforced.
I am only saying this because GOP complained that non nationals could vote in California with a Driving licence..
Suit Says California Lets Noncitizens Register to Vote at DMV
A lawsuit claiming California enables voter fraud by failing to investigate voters' citizenship status was denounced by the state's top elections official Tuesday as an attempt to import Republican-led "voter suppression" tactics to California.
www.courthousenews.com
This is just a big scam. They say REAL ID now but read the text of the law... It is highly subjective and has loads of wiggle room to disenfranchise and target opposition voters...
They have no reason to have one...
It is a right to vote, no where in the constitution does it say you need to apply for your Birth Cert and then get a Government issued ID to match the Birth Cert.
Do you know how hard it is to get a Birth Cert with no ID? Try doing it without taking time off work...
This is again to solve a crime which doesn't really exist... 77 times in 24 years....
9% of Americans have no proof of citizenship... What do you think would happen in Red States if there was a run of requests for Birth Certs before an election...
The question is: Do you think blocking a US Citizen from voting is as big a crime as a non national illegally voting?
This bill would effectively put 20+ million US citizens unable to vote.
Not Proof of Citizenship....
Sorry to be pedantic but the law says proof of citizenship.
This what Selma was about, voter suppression is to create a hurdle and then make it as awkward as possible for the opposition to be able to achieve that.
This law is about trying to get poor people not to vote... It has very little to do with voter fraud by non citizens which has 77 occurrences in 24 years.
So I ask how would you get a ID which proves your citizenship if you have no birth cert and no ID without taking any time off work?
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Leftism in a nutshell.
LAUGHatLEFTISTS
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Feels.
The free WI ID is proof of citizenship that satisfiying the WI law
African Americans overwhelmingly supported voter ID
Poor people are just as capable as rich people of getting a free ID
Heck they need an idea to get their SNAP benefits and SSI
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I scanned it before but totally missed "applicant."
Technically if this were passed in Texas it would not be a major issue as we already are set up for REAL ID, and require state issued ID to vote.
It would be a problem for women who have changed their name (marriage for example) or others who changed their name as the birth certificate would be different. The wife went through a freaking nightmare to get her expired passport renewed because of name change.
Except the Texas (and other state) REAL ID does not prove citizienship as REAL ID is issued to non-citizens and it does not indicate citizenship on the ID. The circled star indicates REAL ID, not citizenship.
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Here is another one. You can use Miltary ID, however you must present your record of militgary service showing you were born in the United States.
A couple of problems.
#1 The military isn't going to give you your personnel jacket to walk out with to take to a voter reqistration location and return it later. The "normal" record of military service is the DD-214.
#2 However the DD-214 is only generated at end of an enlistment (enlisted) or end of commission (officer), so if you are a first term'er you don't have a DD-214 to show.
#3 It requires the DD-214 show show the place of birth as the United States, however DD-214's don't show place of birth, they show date of birth and location of initial entry, but not place of birth. (Now the DD-214 could be updated for future seperations, but all of us that got one in the past wouldn't have a qualifying DD-214.)
#4 It limits the applicablity of military ID and record of service only to those born in the United States. So if my US citizen children had been born in Japan while my wife and I were stationed there instead of Guam, their place of birth would be Japan. Even if they presented military documentation, they wouldn't be able to register to vote because Japan isn't in the United States.
#5 Paragraph 5 under Documentary Proof allows for the presentation of a valid Federal, State or Trible ID (which doesn't show place of birth) if one or more other document that does show place of birth is also provided. However, and here is the kicker - the law states that this is allowed for ID NOT listed in items 1-4. Items 1-4 were REAL ID, Passport, Military ID and military record showing place of birth, and Federal ID showing place of birth.
- Why is #5 important, because paragraph 5D under the proof of citizenship section allows for presenting a Consular Report of Birth Abroad. But since Military ID is one of 1-4 and 5D specifically ExCLUDES items 1-4 for use in conjunction with a Consular Report of Birth Abroad with a Military ID.
- So for Military ID (which doesn't indicated place of birth), members will often not have a DD-214 and the DD-214 doesn't show place of birth AND if you show a military ID you can't use a Consular Report along with a military ID anyway.
Brilliant.
WW
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Lefties are voting in communists like Mamdani.
There is no valid reason to not show ID to vote. That same person must show ID to visit the people they vote for.
DERP.
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Prove it.
Zincwarrior
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I am sure there will be lawsuits based on the 14th Amendment and stare decisis concerning poll taxes.
This could be ameliorated by making the IDs and birth certificate costs free.
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