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This is why you liberals are known as Zombies.. you don't think for yourselves, not ever. .. You support and defend your party even when American deaths take place.. I've never seen a group of politicians that can do no wrong but with the fringe left, that's exactly what we witness here day in and day out.
 
I gives a damn who dreamt up such blarney, it's plain ol' nonsense.

It's ridiculous how people's opinions on everything is based on party rather than merit. Stupid is stupid, regardless of whether it's red or blue.

Is this a general opinion, or is it somehow relative to the OP?

I see your reading comprehension hasn't improved during my extended absence. Try reading the first line of my post again, and think waaaaaay back to the original post and the subject of the title.

Meanwhile, back to the IL with you. G'day sir!

damn who dreamt up such blarney, it's plain ol' nonsense.

Too easy.
 
This is why you liberals are known as Zombies.. you don't think for yourselves, not ever. .. You support and defend your party even when American deaths take place.. I've never seen a group of politicians that can do no wrong but with the fringe left, that's exactly what we witness here day in and day out.

Conservatives are no better in that regard, Lady. I've talked to quite a few that refused to see the flaws in MANY downright unconstitutional & treasonous activities by Republican presidents & house members.
 
Why are there cuts to veterans' benefits in any budget proposal? Which ********** included that in the budget that was voted on?

Why not cut the wars?

$2b/wk in Afghanistan for 13 years. Have we won yet? Do we even know what "victory" is in this war?
 
I'm with the OP and allow me to say that NO CONSERVATIVE cares for Paul Ryan.. he burnt his bridge with us long ago. Staying on topic with the FACTS, I too would like to know how anyone can square this??

Conservatives do not want to start to make real reforms in these autopilot programs that are the drivers of our debt in the first place?

If not this what exactly do "Conservatives" care about?
 
This is why you liberals are known as Zombies.. you don't think for yourselves, not ever. .. You support and defend your party even when American deaths take place.. I've never seen a group of politicians that can do no wrong but with the fringe left, that's exactly what we witness here day in and day out.

Conservatives are no better in that regard, Lady. I've talked to quite a few that refused to see the flaws in MANY downright unconstitutional & treasonous activities by Republican presidents & house members.

Totally disagree with you.. I don't know of one Conservative who agree's with Bush or his policies and if someone does- they are not a true Conservative.. Conservatives pushed to get McDaniel elected going against the Establishment.. did the same in defeating Cantor.. We despise Karl Rove and the K STREET Elite.. So although your post sounds nice and politically correct it's factually incorrect.
 
Ryan is an ass, period, we all know that.

Good for Hagan crossing the aisle; good for voting against invasion of Iraq.

Pubs have called Reid's bluff. Now drop the illegal tax aids and pass the benefits restoration to the vets.

Then pound the Dems over the head with it this election season.
 
The far right conservatives, like LGS, are lying through their missing tooth grins.

That is why there will be far fewer of them running in the general elections this fall.

You far right freaks go start your own party; you can't have the pubs.

Tough to be you.
 
I'm with the OP and allow me to say that NO CONSERVATIVE cares for Paul Ryan.. he burnt his bridge with us long ago. Staying on topic with the FACTS, I too would like to know how anyone can square this??

Conservatives do not want to start to make real reforms in these autopilot programs that are the drivers of our debt in the first place?

If not this what exactly do "Conservatives" care about?

Which conservatives are you referring to exactly??
 
I'm with the OP and allow me to say that NO CONSERVATIVE cares for Paul Ryan.. he burnt his bridge with us long ago. Staying on topic with the FACTS, I too would like to know how anyone can square this??

Conservatives do not want to start to make real reforms in these autopilot programs that are the drivers of our debt in the first place?

If not this what exactly do "Conservatives" care about?

Which conservatives are you referring to exactly??

Whatever conservatives you are referring to..
 
The far right conservatives, like LGS, are lying through their missing tooth grins.

That is why there will be far fewer of them running in the general elections this fall.

You far right freaks go start your own party; you can't have the pubs.

Tough to be you.

Stop acting like you're a Conservative Flakey.. NO ONE buys it. Secondly, I am a libertarian Conservative. I don't believe in abortion or same sex marriage but I don't want the government legislating morality so I support freedom.. Not to mention the legalization of drugs.. so go **** yourself leftist.
 
Conservatives do not want to start to make real reforms in these autopilot programs that are the drivers of our debt in the first place?

If not this what exactly do "Conservatives" care about?

Which conservatives are you referring to exactly??

Whatever conservatives you are referring to..

Nice try.. you made the charge that we don't want real reforms and being that's patently false, just who are you referring to and do be specific.
 
The far right conservatives, like LGS, are lying through their missing tooth grins.

That is why there will be far fewer of them running in the general elections this fall.

You far right freaks go start your own party; you can't have the pubs.

Tough to be you.

damn who dreamt up such blarney, it's plain ol' nonsense.
 
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Why does Paul Ryan want to cut veteran's benefits in the first place?

Why are you focused on ONE republican when every democrat voted to cut those benefits?

Because he co-authored the bill

Reduces automatic increases for young enlistees, Ryan has long been in favor of cutting Vet benefits. Murray wants the cuts removed. Here is the actual six month old story, from NewsMax:

But the bill's provision to slice $6 billion in military retiree benefits — a 1 percent cost-of-living cut — so some sequester cuts to the Pentagon could be replaced has triggered fierce criticism.

"We are not against the budget control act, but we are against doing it on the backs of our military and our families," Military Officers Association of America President Vice Adm. Norb Ryan said, Military Times reported.

Murray noted, "Thankfully, this will not go into effect for two years."
Murray said the Senate would later pass a technical correction ensuring that veterans with disabilities wouldn't see a cut in their benefits.

Murray Vows to Fix Budget Bill Provision That Cuts Veterans' Benefits

Ryan is fine with the 1% cut of course, defends it:

Rep. Paul Ryan defends cuts to military retirement in budget bill - Washington Times

“For me, there’s simply no choice between responsible reforms of military compensation and making what our military leadership has called ‘disproportionate cuts to military readiness and modernization,’ ” Mr. Ryan wrote on a USA Today oped. “Every time we kick the can down the road, we put our troops’ combat readiness at risk. This agreement put forward one reform option, and I invite others to do the same.”

The two-year budget deal that passed Congress last week increases spending now in exchange for savings later and reduces the deficit by $23 billion over 10 years. The deal, authored by Mr. Ryan and Sen. Patty Murray, Washington Democrat, also cuts the cost-of-living adjustment to one percent below the consumer price index for military retirees younger than 62 and goes into effect in 2015.

While Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, said that all military service leaders support the bill because of the $63 billion in sequestration relief it provides, veterans groups demanded last week that President Obama veto the budget bill. A White House petition to veto the budget bill has more than 18,000 signatures as of Monday morning.
 
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I'm with the OP and allow me to say that NO CONSERVATIVE cares for Paul Ryan.. he burnt his bridge with us long ago. Staying on topic with the FACTS, I too would like to know how anyone can square this??

Which conservatives are you referring to exactly??

Whatever conservatives you are referring to..

Nice try.. you made the charge that we don't want real reforms and being that's patently false, just who are you referring to and do be specific.

I'm referring to conservatives that want to decrease government spending.

Are you referring to conservatives that want to increase government spending?

These would be what I would call "liberals."
 
Senate Dems block amendment to restore veteran benefits by closing illegal immigrant welfare loophole

Senate Dems: illegal immigrant welfare over veteran benefits | The Daily Caller
Senate Republicans were unable to stop military pension cuts when Senate Democrats blocked a vote on an amendment to prevent the cuts by closing a welfare loophole for illegal immigrants Tuesday evening.

The two-year budget deal brokered by Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, would cut military pensions by $6 billion over ten years, leaving some Senate Republicans scrambling to stop the cuts.

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Paul Ryan isn't a Democrat, and Daily Caller is as unbiased as Daily Kos.

Yeah what's up with that?

BTW: In October 2002, Murray was one of only 21 Democrats in the Senate to vote against the War Authoritization for invading Iraq.

The Daily Caller really had to dig to pretend this is a Democratic cut to Vet benefits:

Murray argued that adding more amendments would jeopardize the carefully crafted bill and noted that, given the two-year time frame Democrats and Republicans could continue to work together to find savings in the future.

Ryan is all in favor of letting the cuts stand.
 
I'm with the OP and allow me to say that NO CONSERVATIVE cares for Paul Ryan.. he burnt his bridge with us long ago. Staying on topic with the FACTS, I too would like to know how anyone can square this??

Whatever conservatives you are referring to..

Nice try.. you made the charge that we don't want real reforms and being that's patently false, just who are you referring to and do be specific.

I'm referring to conservatives that want to decrease government spending.

Are you referring to conservatives that want to increase government spending?

These would be what I would call "liberals."

I happen to agree with you on that.. Any so called conservative who wants to increase government spending is not a conservative. What does that have to do with taking care of our Veterans in uniform? I'm trying to figure out where you're going with this and why?
 
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