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This gets my vote as the worst Presidential smear ad so far. It has some blubbering woman talking about her wonderful Granny and because of Trump's lack of leadership, he killed Nana. Typical Democrat emotional pandering bullshit. This is all they do, election after election.
‘My grandmother didn’t matter’: Joe Biden bashes Donald Trump virus response to ‘older Americans’
With America's battle with COVID-19 continuing, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee continues to bet voters don't like Donald Trump's approach.floridapolitics.com
Let's show the ad and let everyone make up their own mind. I believe it hits to the heart of the matter.
Yes, lets look at the ad.
Do you know what that ad does not say? Cuomo's name. Wolf's name. It does not mention a single State Governor.
It is those State Governors who killed grandma. They were blatant about it too.
You are doing it again. Once again, you are giving Rump a free ride. For the first 3 months, it all lies on the shoulders of Rump. He had the plans left to him by Obama who had those plans left to him by Bush who had those plans left to him by and so on. Rump ignored those plans and foopawed it all. he half assed things. What's worse, Rump even claimed that he didn't get those pandemic plans passed to him which turned out to be yet another lie. When there were 15 cases in Jan, that plan should have been dusted off and put in action. Much like H1N1 and those other possible Pandemics before it. It wasn't done. By the time the Governors got involved, the Genie was already out of the bottle. You keep giving Rump a free ride on this. he's criminally responsible.
You want to compare this pandemic to H1N1, Darryl and give Obama credit for doing it right and criticize Trump for not getting it right? OK...let's compare Covid 19 to H1N1! Swine flu was a different animal from Covid 19 right from the start! Why? Because of who it affected and who it didn't affect. Older people were not the most at risk for the Swine flu because they had been exposed to similar flues in the past and had immunity. Unlike Covid 19 which has killed very few younger people...the Swine flu's victims were much younger! So the question you need to ask is what steps did Obama take with H1N1 that resulted in a much lower death toll? The answer to that is that he really didn't take many steps at all. We didn't shut down the economy. We didn't enforce the wearing of masks or even social distancing. They stopped doing testing because it was deemed to be a waste of time! So why are more people dying from Covid 19 than the Swine flu? It's got very little to do with how the government reacted to the virus. It has much more to do with the elderly population not having immunity to Covid like they did to H1N1! Covid 19 devasted our elderly population because they have health issues already. That isn't something that was CAUSED by politicians (although the case can be made that the decision by individual Governors to put patients with Covid back into nursing homes was the cause of thousands of deaths!) it was caused by the virus itself! The truth is...if Obama had been dealing with Covid 19 instead of H1N1...then what they did back then wouldn't have been even close to an adequate response! They would have lost people then...just like we've lost them NOW! To be quite blunt...Joe Biden claiming that they did it better is wishful thinking. They didn't do much. It was just a different type of virus.
They locked it down through isolation and lockdown very quickly. Exactly like they did the Spanish Flu, Small Pox, TB, and a whole long list of Pandemics and potential Pandemics in the last 300 years.
I can see it now, King Edward the III standing on the Balcony telling his subjects that the Black Plague would pass all on it's own. Not to worry, it's all under control. The year is 1347. Of course he would ignore that a third of his "Subjects" would collapse and have their carcasses carted off during his speech.
They locked down H1N1? When did that happen? The Obama Administration didn't lock down anything! They didn't close schools even though the Swine flu was killing young people! They didn't isolate! They stopped doing testing early in the pandemic. They didn't do jack shit to be quite honest! It's why it's laughable when Biden claims that HE knows how to deal with this pandemic! He's been hiding in his basement for the past five months. What the heck does he have to contribute?
Do you mean you didn't get the Memo? From the very first case, in 11 days, it was completely locked down, isolated and all possible carriers were isolated. It was done quietly as not cause any type of panic. Until Rump came along, that was the way things like that were handled. If you aren't aware of it, good. The Method worked at the time. If you still aren't aware of it, you are just being stupid.
In what alternate universe did that ever happen, Darryl! We locked down the economy? You're laughably ignorant!
The economy wasn't locked down. With only 15 total cases to deal with and to track the economy wasn't even aware it was going on. The Deaths from H1N1 was just over 12,000 and it was contained. for one year. And that is what the death from Covid should have been instead of over 160,000 if it went for one year. Instead, Covid is going to hit 250,000 easy in one year and go well past that into the next unless the grownups take over.
Sorry you weren't consulted on the H1N1 Pandemic. Guess you missed the Memo where it says, "You just ain't that important to anyone else but you".
Make up your mind, Darryl! First you claim this: "From the very first case, in 11 days, it was completely locked down, isolated and all possible carriers were isolated." And then you claim: "The economy wasn't locked down."
There was no lockdown. They didn't close schools. They didn't close businesses. They didn't impose social distancing. They didn't mandate the wearing of masks. They didn't stop all elective surgeries in hospitals! They DID stop testing though! They said that wasn't really needed.
You just trying play gotcha. The economy wasn't locked down. There was no reason. The Pandemic was locked down in 11 days. I thought you were just ignorant at first. I was wrong. You are Stupid and there is no cured for Stupidity.
What are you even blubbering about? The pandemic was locked down in 11 days? It went on for months you buffoon! It was a worldwide pandemic!