colfax_m
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I understood it differently and did re-watch it. We see what we want to see.Fair enough, youād know better than me. If you want to limit the term to the physical border itās justifiable although I see that as an overly strict interpretation of closing the border. If thatās the interpretation you want to go with, then Bret Baierās question to Sanders about closing the border definitely had nothing to do with Trumpās restrictions to China.Huh? Of course he is.It really doesnāt.Lies. You canāt quote an attack on the China Travel Restrictions from leadership. Hereās what liars do:
Lies lies and more lies from the right. All you can find are right wing articles claiming Democrats opposed it... not actual opposition.
- Claim Pelosi was against the travel ban when the travel ban she opposed was the Muslim ban before China restrictions were announced .
- Claim Biden was against the ban when the only comment they can find is Biden saying to lead with science and not xenophobia and fear. He never attacked the travel restrictions.
Wake up righties. Youāre being lied to.
āDr. Fauci said it was a scientific medical decision. I have a great confidence in Dr. Fauci,ā Pelosi said.
Pelosi questioned why the United Kingdom, which is outside the free-travel Schengen area, was exempted, but said she did not want to focus on criticizing Trump.
āI think itās a good step, absolutely,ā said Alabama Sen. Doug Jones, a Democrat in a tough re-election fight.
āThe fact of the matter is weāre going to have to take some very serious steps,ā Jones told The Post. āAnd I think the administration started that yesterday. I wish they would have started things a little bit earlier.ā
Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) told The Post, āIt seems like of the 35 states that now have coronaviruses, 30 of them have originated in Europe, so I think itās a wise move.ā
āItās a wise moveā: Democrats show rare support for Trump over Europe travel ban
WASHINGTON ā President Trump received rare support Thursday from Democrats after imposing a sweeping European travel ban to help slow the spread of the coronavirus pandemic in the United Statā¦nypost.com
At the Sanders town hall, he was specifically asked about it and said he would not do it. Google it. Sanders is a Leftist but still a Democrat.
Thatās just not true. The question was about āclosing down the bordersā. It was in no way āspecificallyā about travel restrictions to China.
Uhm closing down borders means exactly what he said.
No, it doesnāt. It means ending all international travel in and out of the country. That is far from āexactlyā what he said.
Oh please he was not trying to upset the illegal Mexicans in this country
What does that have to do with Trumpās travel restrictions to China? You know, the topic of this thread?
It has everything to do with it.
The idea is that Trump was criticized for restricting travel to China. This clip of Sanders is held up as evidence. However, as we can see, it was not about Trumpās restrictions. It was not about China. It was about hypothetically restricting all foreign travel. A measure so extreme, not even Trump is doing it even now.
No, heās not.
Iām a U.S. Citizen. Where in the World Can I Go?
For Americans eager to resume international travel, here are the countries that currently allow U.S. citizens to enter, though there may be restrictions, including vaccine requirements.www.nytimes.com
If youāre going by literal border with Canada and Mexico, itās still open to āessential travelā like trade and work. There are bans among foreign nationals who have recently visited a list of about 2 dozen countries. Americans can still travel to and from foreign countries.
You have to show an act of God to go from here to Canada now. I have clients who cannot get trucks to deliver product there.
It is as simple as having people who aren't American come here and conversely go elsewhere at this time. Pretty cut and dry to me. Border security is critical now because some rogue country can just send a sick person here now and blow up our economy or worse. This is 9/11 on steroids.
Its effectiveness was and is limited. Restricting only foreign nationals is a half measure.
Anyway. I suggest you rewatch the first 10 minutes of the town hall with Sanders. The restrictions just werenāt really the topic. In no way was Sanderās asked specifically about Trumpās restrictions on foreign nationals who had visited China.
Sorry dude. Words have meaning. You canāt change the meaning of words to fit your purpose and then just go āHo hum, agree to disagreeā. You claimed it was specifically asked about it. He was not. Period. End of story.
You see what you want to see. Not what is there.