Democrats could misinterpret the Red Trickle

[Dragonlady]

The system began with cable news imo.
It was in the 90s when America started to become deeply polarized.
CNN, MSNBC - 24 hour hate on anything Republican, excuse everything Democrat.
Fox News - 24 hour hate on Democrats, spin positive everything Republican.

They are all 24 hour misinformation, deceit and hate.
James Wood Wednesday - "one thing that is crystal clear with this election... America is evenly divided, with both sides convinced the other side is insane,"

The "system" began with Republicans abandoned the truth and started promoting the "urban" and "rural" divide when Reagan was disparaging the War on Poverty. It began when the Fairness Doctrine was allowed to expire and talk radio turned into "hate the left" radio. It was further exacerbated when Newt Gingerich was elected Speaker and began demonizinig and attacking the Clintons.

Last but certainly not least, the attacks on the left increased when FOX News started lying about everything the Democrats did. FOX News has been a corrosive and anti-democratic force in every nation where Rupert Murdoch has a strong foothold in the media.

Countries with a Murdoch owned television news network, have issues with racism, immigration, and lies about the left. Countries with no Murdoch owned media have an better informed electorate, who don't believe lies or misinformation.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

As evidenced by the midterms most Americans will put the coming Repub hissy fit on ignore.

Ignore is for sissy bitches like...................................

Well, sissy bitches.

 

[gipper]

I see. So you would have us believe conservative's susceptibility to the siren song of autocracy, xenophobia, and the alluringly simplistic message of a demagogue is the fault of Dems.

BTW, in what way did the Dems abandon the working class?

Lol. Are you unaware that the D Party has abandoned the working class? Are you also unaware that many Trump supporters were Ds once? Are you ALSO unaware the working class includes many Rs? Are you also unaware dumb Don was a life long D before running?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The "system" began with Republicans abandoned the truth and started promoting the "urban" and "rural" divide when Reagan was disparaging the War on Poverty. It began when the Fairness Doctrine was allowed to expire and talk radio turned into "hate the left" radio. It was further exacerbated when Newt Gingerich was elected Speaker and began demonizinig and attacking the Clintons.

Last but certainly not least, the attacks on the left increased when FOX News started lying about everything the Democrats did. FOX News has been a corrosive and anti-democratic force in every nation where Rupert Murdoch has a strong foothold in the media.

Countries with a Murdoch owned television news network, have issues with racism, immigration, and lies about the left. Countries with no Murdoch owned media have an better informed electorate, who don't believe lies or misinformation.

Glad your TV-to-brain download cable is working well. Open mouth and out comes DNC talking points. Amazing how that works.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

I'm seeing a lot of barely-hidden glee from the Left over the most successful mid-term performance of a party in power in decades. Given the stakes, I can certainly understand that. But at the same time, it would be stupid for them to draw any long-term conclusions from this.

The primary reason the Dems did so well was not because they have a vice-like grip on the issues, or because their positions on the cultural issues in particular are representative of Americans across the country. It's far more because they had the good fortune of running against an embarrassing clan of clowns, buffoons, frauds and ignoramuses.

There are plenty of smart people left in the GQP, and there's a pretty good chance they're going to learn from this catastrophic wasted opportunity. I'd guess they've learned not to run people like they did. And if the Dems take this as some kind of mandate or confirmation, they're asking for trouble. America is not on a wing, it's across a broad spectrum between the wings.

The Red Wave That Wasn’t: Updates

Biden said Wednesday that voters had proven that “democracy is who we are.”

nymag.com

I think the GOP learns next to nothing from their red "trickle" down. Republicans look like they are going to take the House majority by a slim margin and the House Freedom Cucks are already making noises to McCarthy, threatening to derail his quest to be Speaker if he doesn't agree to multiple investigations including (surprisingly) Hunter Biden. So I expect the next two years will be filled with Republicans doing what they always do. Putting no substantive policies forward, waging culture wars, and going on a vendetta of congressional investigations which will go about as far as Benghazi did.

The final, bottom line here is that despite Tuesday's poor showing of the candidates he backed in swing states, Donald John Trump still exerts a vice like grip on the Republican party. The majority of GOP voters...support Trump. He will run in 2024. And will crush the likes of DeSantis, Youngkin, Haley, and anyone else who dares stand against him. His supporters will not abandon him. In fact, I predict they will double down on him. It doesn't matter that more and more Republicans are coming to the realization that this man has dragged them to the edge of ruin. It's too late. The time to reject him was the moment he stepped off the escalator in 2015.

I don't think any Democrat is taking Tuesday as a mandate. It looks like they've lost the House and will only hang on to the Senate by a fingernail. I think Democrats realize they were lucky to get out of Tuesday without being made completely irrelevant as party for the next decade.

 

[Mac-7]

Glad your TV-to-brain download cable is working well. Open mouth and out comes DNC talking points. Amazing how that works.

Well done!

 

[kyzr]

Rarely have I seen a greater indictment of the POT than that. For the good of the country, which benefits from two healthy parties, I hope the POT is only suffering from temporary insanity. Brought about by its fidelity to the Orange Messiah. The most destructive political force unleashed on this nation in its history.
Even though I think the genie can be put back in the bottle over time we have learned a disturbing lesson from the rise of Trumpery. Namely, the US is not exceptional. Many on the Right are susceptible to the siren song of authoritarianism, xenophobia, and the alluringly simplistic message of a demagogue. Those proclivities will remain even if Trump fades away.

You entirely missed the point of my post.
1. The US is NOT a democracy, it is an oligarchy. The oligarchs determine who wins elections by throwing mass amounts of money to democrat candidates, and the MSM skews toward democrats by demonizing Republican candidates and praising democrat candidates.

2. Smart potential GOP candidates recognize the unfairness of the current oligarchy and see the futility of wasting time and money in such an unfair political process.

3. Our democracy is in danger, but NOT from Republicans, from the current MSM, oligarch, and "Deep State" apparatus that guarantees democrats an unfair advantage.

4. Trump has personality flaws, and as General Kelly said, "Trump is a very flawed man", as we saw by his J6 fiasco. I still say that Trump would have won in 2020 if he could "act" more presidential. His 1st debate debacle probably cost him the 2020 election.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I would not call your democrat candidates anything less than embarrassing nut cases either

You should pin a medal on the spy at the supreme court who leaked the abortion decision

Unmarried liberated women rose up and voted for sex without consequences and thats what turned the election

You have already bought into "single Republican women" came out in droves?

It was more like single, married, divorced, widowed women.

AND....Husbands, fathers, brothers, sons as well.

 

[Sixties Fan]

It may be interesting if Progs do retain the Senate and House. After all, the party now is pushing Globalist socialism and there are many more trillions of fiat dollars in legislation to vote on. To me, Progs are vengeance. Vendetta to real and perceived wrongs that goes back to the beginning of time. And someone get the blame for it.

Projecting what the Republicans have been doing.

Revenge is Trump's middle name. And it is becoming the middle name of some in the Republican Party who want to waist their power and time on Impeach Biden.

 

[two_iron]

The takeaway is that the left will elect deceased and brain-dead shit missiles as long as the agenda is to take from the productive half of the country and give to the non-productive half.

It's obvious this ain't gonna work. The slutty wife has been caught cheating and it's time to divorce the mother fucker.

Democrat re-elected by a landslide in Pennsylvania – even though he’s dead

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Projecting what the Republicans have been doing.

Revenge is Trump's middle name. And it is becoming the middle name of some in the Republican Party who want to waist their power and time on Impeach Biden.

Wow! I'm very impressed by how clever you thought you sounded saying that.

(ahem)

"waist their power"?

 

[gipper]

It may be interesting if Progs do retain the Senate and House. After all, the party now is pushing Globalist socialism and there are many more trillions of fiat dollars in legislation to vote on. To me, Progs are vengeance. Vendetta to real and perceived wrongs that goes back to the beginning of time. And someone get the blame for it.

No they’re aren’t. They are pushing global corporatism (aka Fascism) with a tiny elite controlling everything. The Rs are no better.

 

[berg80]

It may be interesting if Progs do retain the Senate and House. After all, the party now is pushing Globalist socialism

That's just the kind of reflexive idiocy that was rejected by voters all over the country.

 

[gipper]

The "system" began with Republicans abandoned the truth and started promoting the "urban" and "rural" divide when Reagan was disparaging the War on Poverty. It began when the Fairness Doctrine was allowed to expire and talk radio turned into "hate the left" radio. It was further exacerbated when Newt Gingerich was elected Speaker and began demonizinig and attacking the Clintons.

Last but certainly not least, the attacks on the left increased when FOX News started lying about everything the Democrats did. FOX News has been a corrosive and anti-democratic force in every nation where Rupert Murdoch has a strong foothold in the media.

Countries with a Murdoch owned television news network, have issues with racism, immigration, and lies about the left. Countries with no Murdoch owned media have an better informed electorate, who don't believe lies or misinformation.

Lol. You think the D Party is blameless and will correct things. Talk about a failure to learn. You’re out there where the busses don’t run.

 

[Mac1958]

That's just the kind of reflexive idiocy that was rejected by voters all over the country.

It's how they naturally communicate now.

 

[Moonglow]

No they’re aren’t. They are pushing global corporatism (aka Fascism) with a tiny elite controlling everything. The Rs are no better.

For some reason they can't figure that out.

 

[Care4all]

The normal McConnell backed Republicans in the senate, and non election deniers in the house, won their seats by 10 percentage points higher in votes, than the Trumper backed election deniers.

I don't think this was just the young people on abortion...

Republicans voting, chose non election deniers and NOT Trumper election deniers in higher amounts.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

That's just the kind of reflexive idiocy that was rejected by voters all over the country.

Wow! "Reflexive idiocy"!!!!

Somebody learned a couple of new polysyllabic words today! Even spelled them correctly.

Good boy/girl/thing!

 

[Sixties Fan]

You entirely missed the point of my post.
1. The US is NOT a democracy, it is an oligarchy. The oligarchs determine who wins elections by throwing mass amounts of money to democrat candidates, and the MSM skews toward democrats by demonizing Republican candidates and praising democrat candidates.

2. Smart potential GOP candidates recognize the unfairness of the current oligarchy and see the futility of wasting time and money in such an unfair political process.

3. Our democracy is in danger, but NOT from Republicans, from the current MSM, oligarch, and "Deep State" apparatus that guarantees democrats an unfair advantage.

4. Trump has personality flaws, and as General Kelly said, "Trump is a very flawed man", as we saw by his J6 fiasco. I still say that Trump would have won in 2020 if he could "act" more presidential. His 1st debate debacle probably cost him the 2020 election.

You are saying that Republicans do not get Massive amounts of money from the Billionaires and Millionaires of the country?

These are the people responsible for endless money now being allowed into US elections:

What was Citizens United about?​

A conservative nonprofit group called Citizens United challenged campaign finance rules after the FEC stopped it from promoting and airing a film criticizing presidential candidate Hillary Clinton too close to the presidential primaries.

A 5–4 majority of the Supreme Court sided with Citizens United, ruling that corporations and other outside groups can spend unlimited money on elections.

What was the rationale for the ruling?​

In the court’s opinion, Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote that limiting “independent political spending” from corporations and other groups violates the First Amendment right to free speech. The justices who voted with the majority assumed that independent spending cannot be corrupt and that the spending would be transparent, but both assumptions have proven to be incorrect.

With its decision, the Supreme Court overturned election spending restrictions that date back more than 100 years. Previously, the court had upheld certain spending restrictions, arguing that the government had a role in preventing corruption. But in Citizens United, a bare majority of the justices held that “independent political spending” did not present a substantive threat of corruption, provided it was not coordinated with a candidate’s campaign.

As a result, corporations can now spend unlimited funds on campaign advertising if they are not formally “coordinating” with a candidate or political party.

How has Citizens United changed elections in the United States?​

The ruling has ushered in massive increases in political spending from outside groups, dramatically expanding the already outsized political influence of wealthy donors, corporations, and special interest groups.

In the immediate aftermath of the Citizens United decision, analysts focused much of their attention on how the Supreme Court designated corporate spending on elections as free speech. But perhaps the most significant outcomes of Citizens United have been the creation of super PACs, which empower the wealthiest donors, and the expansion of dark money through shadowy nonprofits that don’t disclose their donors.

A Brennan Center report by Daniel I. Weiner pointed out that a very small group of Americans now wield “more power than at any time since Watergate, while many of the rest seem to be disengaging from politics.“

“This is perhaps the most troubling result of Citizens United: in a time of historic wealth inequality,” wrote Weiner, “the decision has helped reinforce the growing sense that our democracy primarily serves the interests of the wealthy few, and that democratic participation for the vast majority of citizens is of relatively little value.”

An election system that is skewed heavily toward wealthy donors also sustains racial bias and reinforces the racial wealth gap. Citizens United also unleashed political spending from special interest groups.

Citizens United Explained

The 2010 Supreme Court decision further tilted political influence toward wealthy donors and corporations.

www.brennancenter.org

 

[JoeB131]

You entirely missed the point of my post.
1. The US is NOT a democracy, it is an oligarchy. The oligarchs determine who wins elections by throwing mass amounts of money to democrat candidates, and the MSM skews toward democrats by demonizing Republican candidates and praising democrat candidates.

Ho-hum... has it ever occurred to you that you just have shitty ideas?

2. Smart potential GOP candidates recognize the unfairness of the current oligarchy and see the futility of wasting time and money in such an unfair political process.

I suspect decent people on both sides avoid running for office. Who wants the grief?

3. Our democracy is in danger, but NOT from Republicans, from the current MSM, oligarch, and "Deep State" apparatus that guarantees democrats an unfair advantage.

Nope, what gives the Democrats an unfair advantage is that the GOP is in the minority. What keeps it viable is money, corporate support and dumb white people like you who keep voting away your rights as workers.

4. Trump has personality flaws, and as General Kelly said, "Trump is a very flawed man", as we saw by his J6 fiasco. I still say that Trump would have won in 2020 if he could "act" more presidential. His 1st debate debacle probably cost him the 2020 election.

Actually, Trump was trailing Biden the whole time. The debate didn't kill him. Remember, the debate was going to expose Biden as senile... but it didn't. Biden looked dignified while Trump looked like a clown.