Democrats are turning themselves into the enemies of democracy

[j-mac]

"Inconvenient"?
Sure, like shutting down congress to protect child molesters?

Settle down Eugene...Your mixing up your lies.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Settle down Eugene...Your mixing up your lies.

BS.

ONE and the same EVIDENCE, the spineless congress is protecting their LYING dear leader.

 

[berg80]

You’re disagreement with fact doesn’t “debunk” anything.

You're refusal to accept facts doesn't change them. I don't disagree with the fact illegal aliens do not qualify for ACA, you do.

The Trump administration is blaming Democrats for the US government shutdown, claiming they are pursuing "radical demands" including free healthcare for illegal immigrants. Vice President JD Vance said Democrats "want to shut the government because we won't give billions of dollars in healthcare funding for illegal aliens".

President Trump posted on Truth Social: "The Democrats want to give your healthcare money to illegal aliens." Democratic Senate leader Chuck Schumer has called the claim a "total, absolute, effing lie".

Democrats have been pushing for concessions from the government on health - an extension to subsidies for Obamacare health insurance and changes to Medicaid. But illegal or undocumented immigrants are not eligible for these schemes and the Democrats have not said they want to change this. The Republicans have pointed to Democratic proposals to reverse parts of Trump's changes to healthcare provision in his tax and spending bill, as evidence for their claim.

Do Democrats want free healthcare for undocumented migrants?

Amid the blame game over the shutdown, Republicans claim Democrats want free healthcare for illegal immigrants - the Democrats call this a lie

www.bbc.com

 

[berg80]

So, why’d Democrats set the date for the COVID era subsidy to expire?

Have you considered that in trump's lust to punish Dem's, Repub's will be collateral damage?

A majority of Trump supporters back extending Obamacare subsidies, poll finds​

A majority of Trump supporters back extending Obamacare subsidies, poll finds

Without the tax credits, people will lose coverage, putting their health and finances at risk, experts say.

www.nbcnews.com

Most of President Donald Trump’s supporters back keeping enhanced subsidies for Affordable Care Act plans, the central obstacle in ending the government shutdown, according to a new poll from the nonpartisan health policy research group KFF. It was conducted Sept. 23 through Sept. 29, just days before Congress failed to pass a funding measure to keep the government open.

More than 22 million people receive the subsidies, which are set to expire at the end of the year unless Congress extends them. Losing the subsidies could mean that average out-of-pocket premium payments could double in 2026, from $888 a year to $1,904, an earlier KFF analysis found.

Around 4 million people are projected to go without coverage next year because they can no longer afford it, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Extending them would cost the federal government around $350 billion over the next decade.

The new survey found 59% of Republicans and 57% of “Make American Great Again” supporters favor extending the enhanced subsidies.

 

[berg80]

Settle down Eugene...Your mixing up your lies.

It's apparently not a problem for you. You have your lies down pat.

 

[berg80]

So my question is this. Is it anti-democratic to advocate for the repeal of a portion of already adopted legislation not supported by the majority of the public?

The nationally representative sample of 1,334 adults were asked whether they support extending the subsidies, not whether they support including them in budget negotiations. Whether to include them is a sticking point in the ongoing budget battle, with Democrats arguing they must be extended before open enrollment next month, when many enrollees will be shocked to find their premiums are increasing.

Overall, more than three-quarters of the public — 78% — say they want Congress to extend them. That includes 92% of Democrats and 82% of independents.

“We get a very clear message that the majority of the public, regardless of their partisanship, regardless of their insurance, support Congress extending these tax credits,” said Ashley Kirzinger, the director of survey methodology and associate director of the public opinion and survey research program at KFF. “It’s really hard to take a benefit away after it’s been given to people.”

 

[j-mac]

BS.

ONE and the same EVIDENCE, the spineless congress is protecting their LYING dear leader.

 

[Marener]

Well, we've got one coming up next November...I don't do predictions, however, the more you people keep stomping your feet and acting like spoiled children, I don't think it looks good for you.

Until that happens, you don’t have any room to complain that democratically elected senators are representing the people of their states.

 

[j-mac]

You're refusal to accept facts doesn't change them. I don't disagree with the fact illegal aliens do not qualify for ACA, you do.

The Trump administration is blaming Democrats for the US government shutdown, claiming they are pursuing "radical demands" including free healthcare for illegal immigrants. Vice President JD Vance said Democrats "want to shut the government because we won't give billions of dollars in healthcare funding for illegal aliens".

President Trump posted on Truth Social: "The Democrats want to give your healthcare money to illegal aliens." Democratic Senate leader Chuck Schumer has called the claim a "total, absolute, effing lie".

Democrats have been pushing for concessions from the government on health - an extension to subsidies for Obamacare health insurance and changes to Medicaid. But illegal or undocumented immigrants are not eligible for these schemes and the Democrats have not said they want to change this. The Republicans have pointed to Democratic proposals to reverse parts of Trump's changes to healthcare provision in his tax and spending bill, as evidence for their claim.

Do Democrats want free healthcare for undocumented migrants?

Amid the blame game over the shutdown, Republicans claim Democrats want free healthcare for illegal immigrants - the Democrats call this a lie

www.bbc.com

“Schemes” is exactly the right word…

 

[j-mac]

Have you considered that in trump's lust to punish Dem's, Repub's will be collateral damage?

A majority of Trump supporters back extending Obamacare subsidies, poll finds​

A majority of Trump supporters back extending Obamacare subsidies, poll finds

Without the tax credits, people will lose coverage, putting their health and finances at risk, experts say.

www.nbcnews.com

Most of President Donald Trump’s supporters back keeping enhanced subsidies for Affordable Care Act plans, the central obstacle in ending the government shutdown, according to a new poll from the nonpartisan health policy research group KFF. It was conducted Sept. 23 through Sept. 29, just days before Congress failed to pass a funding measure to keep the government open.

More than 22 million people receive the subsidies, which are set to expire at the end of the year unless Congress extends them. Losing the subsidies could mean that average out-of-pocket premium payments could double in 2026, from $888 a year to $1,904, an earlier KFF analysis found.

Around 4 million people are projected to go without coverage next year because they can no longer afford it, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Extending them would cost the federal government around $350 billion over the next decade.

The new survey found 59% of Republicans and 57% of “Make American Great Again” supporters favor extending the enhanced subsidies.

Then why’d Democrats set them to expire?

 

[j-mac]

It's apparently not a problem for you. You have your lies down pat.

I can tell you’re triggered when you try to increase your post count by rapid firing posting…

 

[j-mac]

The nationally representative sample of 1,334 adults were asked whether they support extending the subsidies, not whether they support including them in budget negotiations. Whether to include them is a sticking point in the ongoing budget battle, with Democrats arguing they must be extended before open enrollment next month, when many enrollees will be shocked to find their premiums are increasing.

Overall, more than three-quarters of the public — 78% — say they want Congress to extend them. That includes 92% of Democrats and 82% of independents.

“We get a very clear message that the majority of the public, regardless of their partisanship, regardless of their insurance, support Congress extending these tax credits,” said Ashley Kirzinger, the director of survey methodology and associate director of the public opinion and survey research program at KFF. “It’s really hard to take a benefit away after it’s been given to people.”

Dems are NOT a majority of the public.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

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That's what Trump said to his teenage victims.

 

[j-mac]

Until that happens, you don’t have any room to complain that democratically elected senators are representing the people of their states.

Are they though? Their approval is in the toilet, so, it really looks like the only thing they’re protecting is their illegal self enrichment.

 

[j-mac]

That's what Trump said to his teenage victims.

Since that’s what you’re acting like, a spoiled teen, that’s all you deserve.

 

[Marener]

Are they though? Their approval is in the toilet, so, it really looks like the only thing they’re protecting is their illegal self enrichment.

So now you want representatives to vote based on public opinion polls?

You’re just saying shit.

 

[berg80]

“Schemes” is exactly the right word…

AI Overview

In British English, "scheme" is primarily used as a neutral term for a plan, program, or project, often by a formal organization or government, such as a pension scheme or housing scheme.

It was a BBC article.

 

[berg80]

Dems are NOT a majority of the public.

But their policy positions are.

Thread 'The cognitive dissonance of the public's opinion towards Dem's.'

Aug 22, 2025

Quite a bit has been made by the board's conservatives about the Dem party's dismal polling numbers of late. They are frequently cited in response to it being pointed out trump's approval rating has sunken to new lows.
Why do I refer to this phenomenon as creating cognitive dissonance? Here's why.

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www.pbs.org

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[j-mac]

So now you want representatives to vote based on public opinion polls?

You’re just saying shit.

No.

Have you even read my posts? I want the Congress to pass a budget in regular order, with the appropriate manner of doing such, and get the spending under control.

You have to ask yourself why you don’t.

 

[j-mac]

But their policy positions are.

Thread 'The cognitive dissonance of the public's opinion towards Dem's.'

Aug 22, 2025

Quite a bit has been made by the board's conservatives about the Dem party's dismal polling numbers of late. They are frequently cited in response to it being pointed out trump's approval rating has sunken to new lows.
Why do I refer to this phenomenon as creating cognitive dissonance? Here's why.

Most U.S. adults think abortion should be legal 3 years after Roe was overturned, poll shows​

Most U.S. adults think abortion should be legal 3 years after Roe was overturned, poll shows

The new findings from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll show that about two-thirds of U.S. adults think abortion should be legal in all or most cases.

www.pbs.org

A Majority of Americans See Climate Change as a...​

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Then why is their approval in the sewer?