Democratic congressional leadership failures.

[Supposn]

Democratic congressional leadership failures.

The federal minimum wage rate, and all of sponsored Democrat congressional members proposals to modify that rate, are expressed as in terms of U.S. Dollars.
The U.S dollar is not of a constant value; thus a minimum wage rate' value determined by and expressed in terms of U.S. dollars is of variable value dependent upon current exchange markets' values. Most U.S. voters are well aware of this concept.
Why don't Democratic congressional members respect their constituents? Why do they discuss the rate in terms of dollars rather than in terms of purchasing power?

When Democrats are unable to pass their proposed minimum wage bill within a congressional session, do they modify their proposals during following sessions. If the original proposal was preferable, why are they changing it? Democrats cannot agree upon what they want? If Democratic minimum wage bill is good, they should, within every year's general elections, argue in favor of that same bill exactly as it was previously drafted. There's no point to changing a bill's wording or punctuation if it was originally drafted correctly.

Due to Democrats' proposed minimum wage rate's bills targeting an increase to $15 per hour rather than increasing its value to reflect 125% of the rate's historic peak purchasing power achieved in February-1968? Why do they proposal incremental increases to reach the targeted value, be halted in a finite number of years? In excess of a half century, the U.S congress has permitted the the declining value of our federal minimum wage rate. We should not limit the number of prescribed incremental annual increases until the rate achieves it's new targeted value.

Opponents of minimum wage are enabled to hinder and delay the passage of a minimum wage bill that will thereafter continue to effectively reduce the incidences and extents of poverty among our nation's working-poor.

It appears as Democrats have not and will not ever “get it right”. Democrat's minimum wage bills are always “too little and too late to be sufficiently effective”.
Some politely describe these strategic leadership faults as “regrettable” or “less preferable”, rather than the stupidity of Democratic congressional leadership. They have failed themselves, their party, and our nation.

Respectfully. Supposn

 

[JGalt]

Democratic congressional leadership failures.

The federal minimum wage rate, and all of sponsored Democrat congressional members proposals to modify that rate, are expressed as in terms of U.S. Dollars.
The U.S dollar is not of a constant value; thus a minimum wage rate' value determined by and expressed in terms of U.S. dollars is of variable value dependent upon current exchange markets' values. Most U.S. voters are well aware of this concept.
Why don't Democratic congressional members respect their constituents? Why do they discuss the rate in terms of dollars rather than in terms of purchasing power?

When Democrats are unable to pass their proposed minimum wage bill within a congressional session, do they modify their proposals during following sessions. If the original proposal was preferable, why are they changing it? Democrats cannot agree upon what they want? If Democratic minimum wage bill is good, they should, within every year's general elections, argue in favor of that same bill exactly as it was previously drafted. There's no point to changing a bill's wording or punctuation if it was originally drafted correctly.

Due to Democrats' proposed minimum wage rate's bills targeting an increase to $15 per hour rather than increasing its value to reflect 125% of the rate's historic peak purchasing power achieved in February-1968? Why do they proposal incremental increases to reach the targeted value, be halted in a finite number of years? In excess of a half century, the U.S congress has permitted the the declining value of our federal minimum wage rate. We should not limit the number of prescribed incremental annual increases until the rate achieves it's new targeted value.

Opponents of minimum wage are enabled to hinder and delay the passage of a minimum wage bill that will thereafter continue to effectively reduce the incidences and extents of poverty among our nation's working-poor.

It appears as Democrats have not and will not ever “get it right”. Democrat's minimum wage bills are always “too little and too late to be sufficiently effective”.
Some politely describe these strategic leadership faults as “regrettable” or “less preferable”, rather than the stupidity of Democratic congressional leadership. They have failed themselves, their party, and our nation.

Respectfully. Supposn

So their hearts are pinned to their shoulder sleeves so we know they care, but their heads are stuck firmly up their asses so we know they don't have a fuckin' clue.

 

[Concerned American]

Why do they discuss the rate in terms of dollars rather than in terms of purchasing power?

Because it would shine the spotlight directly on the worst inflation in forty years and their culpability in creating it.

 

[g5000]

Democratic congressional leadership failures.

The federal minimum wage rate, and all of sponsored Democrat congressional members proposals to modify that rate, are expressed as in terms of U.S. Dollars.
The U.S dollar is not of a constant value; thus a minimum wage rate' value determined by and expressed in terms of U.S. dollars is of variable value dependent upon current exchange markets' values. Most U.S. voters are well aware of this concept.
Why don't Democratic congressional members respect their constituents? Why do they discuss the rate in terms of dollars rather than in terms of purchasing power?

The whole point of increasing the minimum wage is to catch up to inflation from the last time the minimum wage was increased.

When Democrats are unable to pass their proposed minimum wage bill within a congressional session, do they modify their proposals during following sessions. If the original proposal was preferable, why are they changing it? Democrats cannot agree upon what they want? If Democratic minimum wage bill is good, they should, within every year's general elections, argue in favor of that same bill exactly as it was previously drafted. There's no point to changing a bill's wording or punctuation if it was originally drafted correctly.

First, you seem to actually believe this only happens with Democratic bills. Your ignorance and willful blindness is astonishing.

You obviously have no clue how the legislative process works. There is no standalone "Democratic minimum wage bill". The minimum wage increase is in a bill which contains many other provisions. It is but a small part of the whole.

All legislators, not just Democrats, propose multiple provisions in a bill. Have you ever even bothered to read one?

You ever hear of a "poison pill"? That's when a legislator puts in a provision that he or she knows no one will support in order to get everyone else to vote down the larger bill which is popular. The poison pill is more hated than the rest of the bill is liked.

Every bill, Republican or Democrat, goes through a negotiation process in order to satisfy enough people to get it to pass. Just look up a bill, any bill, sometime and go to the amendments section. Maybe then your eyes will be opened.

 

[Donald H]

Democratic congressional leadership failures.

The federal minimum wage rate, and all of sponsored Democrat congressional members proposals to modify that rate, are expressed as in terms of U.S. Dollars.
The U.S dollar is not of a constant value; thus a minimum wage rate' value determined by and expressed in terms of U.S. dollars is of variable value dependent upon current exchange markets' values. Most U.S. voters are well aware of this concept.
Why don't Democratic congressional members respect their constituents? Why do they discuss the rate in terms of dollars rather than in terms of purchasing power?

When Democrats are unable to pass their proposed minimum wage bill within a congressional session, do they modify their proposals during following sessions. If the original proposal was preferable, why are they changing it? Democrats cannot agree upon what they want? If Democratic minimum wage bill is good, they should, within every year's general elections, argue in favor of that same bill exactly as it was previously drafted. There's no point to changing a bill's wording or punctuation if it was originally drafted correctly.

Due to Democrats' proposed minimum wage rate's bills targeting an increase to $15 per hour rather than increasing its value to reflect 125% of the rate's historic peak purchasing power achieved in February-1968? Why do they proposal incremental increases to reach the targeted value, be halted in a finite number of years? In excess of a half century, the U.S congress has permitted the the declining value of our federal minimum wage rate. We should not limit the number of prescribed incremental annual increases until the rate achieves it's new targeted value.

Opponents of minimum wage are enabled to hinder and delay the passage of a minimum wage bill that will thereafter continue to effectively reduce the incidences and extents of poverty among our nation's working-poor.

It appears as Democrats have not and will not ever “get it right”. Democrat's minimum wage bills are always “too little and too late to be sufficiently effective”.
Some politely describe these strategic leadership faults as “regrettable” or “less preferable”, rather than the stupidity of Democratic congressional leadership. They have failed themselves, their party, and our nation.

Respectfully. Supposn

The true and pure capitalist will have to agree that 'minimum' wage is not a part of a capitalist system. It is interference with capitalism's golden rule of 'supply and demand'.

Social responsibility in government that includes some 'socialist' factor is a bastardization of capitalism. America appears to be in the process of eliminating the existing amount of socialism it has attained over it's history as a democracy.

To explain an important basic rule of supply and demand: Unions and employer orgs are fair game in a capitalist system. Both containing real teeth with which to bargain.

There's no contradiction! One big union can bargain against one big employer's org on the minimum wage for the country.

The only alternative is to place limits on capitalism to curtail greed.

 

[Donald H]

Because it would shine the spotlight directly on the worst inflation in forty years and their culpability in creating it.

You imply that capitalism hasn't worked, but do you understand the reasons why it's failing?
Do any Americans truly not understand that their politicians have been bought and paid for by corporations that lobby with their dollars?

 

[Concerned American]

The true and pure capitalist will have to agree that 'minimum' wage is not a part of a capitalist system. It is interference with capitalism's golden rule of 'supply and demand'.

Social responsibility in government that includes some 'socialist' factor is a bastardization of capitalism. America appears to be in the process of eliminating the existing amount of socialism it has attained over it's history as a democracy.

To explain an important basic rule of supply and demand: Unions and employer orgs are fair game in a capitalist system. Both containing real teeth with which to bargain.

There's no contradiction! One big union can bargain against one big employer's org on the minimum wage for the country.

The only alternative is to place limits on capitalism to curtail greed.

STFU, duck. You have no standing. The US is a republic, not a democracy. Fix Canada--you have enough problems in your own Nazi-socialist state.

 

[Meathead]

Democratic congressional leadership failures.

The federal minimum wage rate, and all of sponsored Democrat congressional members proposals to modify that rate, are expressed as in terms of U.S. Dollars.
The U.S dollar is not of a constant value; thus a minimum wage rate' value determined by and expressed in terms of U.S. dollars is of variable value dependent upon current exchange markets' values. Most U.S. voters are well aware of this concept.
Why don't Democratic congressional members respect their constituents? Why do they discuss the rate in terms of dollars rather than in terms of purchasing power?

When Democrats are unable to pass their proposed minimum wage bill within a congressional session, do they modify their proposals during following sessions. If the original proposal was preferable, why are they changing it? Democrats cannot agree upon what they want? If Democratic minimum wage bill is good, they should, within every year's general elections, argue in favor of that same bill exactly as it was previously drafted. There's no point to changing a bill's wording or punctuation if it was originally drafted correctly.

Due to Democrats' proposed minimum wage rate's bills targeting an increase to $15 per hour rather than increasing its value to reflect 125% of the rate's historic peak purchasing power achieved in February-1968? Why do they proposal incremental increases to reach the targeted value, be halted in a finite number of years? In excess of a half century, the U.S congress has permitted the the declining value of our federal minimum wage rate. We should not limit the number of prescribed incremental annual increases until the rate achieves it's new targeted value.

Opponents of minimum wage are enabled to hinder and delay the passage of a minimum wage bill that will thereafter continue to effectively reduce the incidences and extents of poverty among our nation's working-poor.

It appears as Democrats have not and will not ever “get it right”. Democrat's minimum wage bills are always “too little and too late to be sufficiently effective”.
Some politely describe these strategic leadership faults as “regrettable” or “less preferable”, rather than the stupidity of Democratic congressional leadership. They have failed themselves, their party, and our nation.

Respectfully. Supposn

Democrats have failed across-the-board. From the mumbler-in-chief to the squad they have redefined political failure.

The reckoning in November is going to be fun!

 

[Concerned American]

You imply that capitalism hasn't worked,

Again, STFU duck. I didn't imply anything of the sort. When the government manipulates capitalism by executive order that is not capitalism. Take your Nazi/Socialist crap and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. This isn't Canada and we don't want to be Canada.

 

[Concerned American]

You imply that capitalism hasn't worked, but do you understand the reasons why it's failing?
Do any Americans truly not understand that their politicians have been bought and paid for by corporations that lobby with their dollars?

Maybe you ought to tend to problems that affect your own life and stay the fuck out of ours, duck. Canadian children are being taught to call police on the vaccine-free

 

[Donald H]

When the government manipulates capitalism by executive order that is not capitalism.

You've raised a good point C.A.p.
But capitalist dictates say nothing against executive orders. Capitalism is completely concerned with 'supply and demand'. Do you have evidence to back up your suggestion?
Democracy may have something to say against 'executive orders' coming down from government, but that's only for a true democracy that allows the people to exclusively decide. America's and Canada's democracies do not due to representative democracy.

 

[Donald H]

Maybe you ought to tend to problems that affect your own life and stay the fuck out of ours, duck. Canadian children are being taught to call police on the vaccine-free

I hear you C.A.p. but I am claiming the right to comment on questions concerning Canada, when those questions are raised. Respectfully, your opinion doesn't count here.

See my earlier response to the OP on my disagreeing on his and others' suggestions of propagandizing of children.

Edit: In fact it was you that included Canada in the conversation

 

[Concerned American]

You've raised a good point C.A.p.
But capitalist dictates say nothing against executive orders. Capitalism is completely concerned with 'supply and demand'. Do you have evidence to back up your suggestion?
Democracy may have something to say against 'executive orders' coming down from government, but that's only for a true democracy that allows the people to exclusively decide. America's and Canada's democracies do not due to representative democracy.

Again, moron. America is NOT a democracy. Neither is Canada. Canada is Nazi socialism unleashed and the US, as is evidenced in all of our founding documents, is a REPUBLIC. Nowhere in our founding documents will you find the term democracy. Now, STFU and go troll some other country where you have no standing since you think you live in utopia. Run along duck.

 

[Concerned American]

Respectfully, your opinion doesn't count here.

Take a class in comprehension, duck. I have told you so many times it is getting cliche' that you should keep your nose in Canada and out of the US. Take your own advice and keep your opinions in Canada---where you have standing.

 

[Donald H]

Again, moron. America is NOT a democracy. Neither is Canada. Canada is Nazi socialism unleashed and the US, as is evidenced in all of our founding documents, is a REPUBLIC. Nowhere in our founding documents will you find the term democracy.

America is a democratic republic.

Now, STFU and go troll some other country where you have no standing since you think you live in utopia. Run along duck.

Canada isn't a utopia and it's never been my suggestion that it is! But I won't deny that I've extolled the virtues of Canada as compared to 'other' countries.

You're trying to turn this thread into an off-topic criticism of Canada. I don't condone your behaviour but I have no other choice than to answer you.

 

[Concerned American]

I don't condone your behaviour but I have no other choice than to answer you.

I don't GAF if you condone my behavior or not. You are a Canadian troll who has no standing in this discussion. Kindly keep your commie/nazi socialist opinions to yourself they are not welcome in this country.

 

[g5000]

Again, moron. America is NOT a democracy.

It most certainly is.

The world must be made safe for democracy. Its peace must be planted upon the tested foundations of political liberty. We have no selfish ends to serve. We desire no conquest, no dominion. We seek no indemnities for ourselves, no material compensation for the sacrifices we shall freely make. We are but one of the champions of the rights of mankind. We shall be satisfied when those rights have been made as secure as the faith and the freedom of nations can make them. - Woodrow Wilson


And my favorite political science book of all time:

 

[Supposn]

Again, moron. America is NOT a democracy. Neither is Canada. Canada is Nazi socialism unleashed and the US, as is evidenced in all of our founding documents, is a REPUBLIC. Nowhere in our founding documents will you find the term democracy. Now, STFU and go troll some other country where you have no standing since you think you live in utopia. Run along duck.

Concerned American, I served a good portion of my 4 years U.S. Military hitch on a U.S. base in the Canadian maritime province of Newfoundland. I found Canadian's general behaviors and characters not to be loud or particularly seeking conflict or controversy. Rather than loud, crude, or uncivil, Canadians I encountered generally were of good humor, spoke more softly, and were certainly no less knowledgeable, intelligent, or eloquent than members of my military unit.

I don't suppose what you choose to describe as the “standing” of Donald H, is any less credible than yours, or mine, or most other posters to this forum. You (fortunately) do not determine who may or may not post on U.S. Message Board forms.

The words you chose, “IF YOU CAN'T EAT IT OR F*** IT, PISS ON IT AND WALK AWAY!”, reveal somethings of your character and intelligence. Regrettably, your identifying yourself as an “America” and implying you're a USA American degrades the reputation of the United States of America, and many of our citizens would not be proud of your identifying yourself as a “Yank”.

Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Supposn]

I hear you C.A.p. but I am claiming the right to comment on questions concerning Canada, when those questions are raised. Respectfully, your opinion doesn't count here.
See my earlier response to the OP on my disagreeing on his and others' suggestions of propagandizing of children.
Edit: In fact it was you that included Canada in the conversation

Donald H, to the extent of its purchasing power and its enforcement, government's minimum wage rate reduces poverty among the working-poor and their dependents.
The federal minimum rate determined by the the U.S. Congress and agreed to by the U.S. President.

USA employers are prohibited from paying less, but USA states are enabled to increase that minimum within their own jurisdictions. The established minimums do not regulate rates exceeding the legal explicit minimum rate. Similarly analogous to real-estate taxes that do not regulate real-estate prices, minimum wage rates do not regulate the prices of labor.
The federal minimum wage rate limits extents that state's governments may undermine labor market prices within other states.

Donald H, please don't link Concerned American's opinions with my own. I haven't posted anything that should be related to “propagandizing of children”. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Donald H]

Donald H, to the extent of its purchasing power and its enforcement, government's minimum wage rate reduces poverty among the working-poor and their dependents.
The federal minimum rate determined by the the U.S. Congress and agreed to by the U.S. President.

USA employers are prohibited from paying less, but USA states are enabled to increase that minimum within their own jurisdictions. The established minimums do not regulate rates exceeding the legal explicit minimum rate. Similarly analogous to real-estate taxes that do not regulate real-estate prices, minimum wage rates do not regulate the prices of labor.
The federal minimum wage rate limits extents that state's governments may undermine labor market prices within other states.

Donald H, please don't link Concerned American's opinions with my own. I haven't posted anything that should be related to “propagandizing of children”. Respectfully, Supposn

I'm all for a minimum wage.
I just try to explain how capitalism is supposed to work.
I don't get what you're saying on C.A.p.'s opinions. I consider him a useless angry little boy.