Was Kamala from a middle-class family, or was it just another lie, one of many the moderators failed to check?

[rightwinger]

Well you aren't a candidate for president of the USA and is expected to tell the truth.

You are the one claiming she didn’t work at McDonalds
Burden of proof is on you

 

[martybegan]

worse

He claimed ... why do you people open doors that allow Trump to look like the goofball loser he actually is in real life?

"Trump claimed he turned a ‘small’ $1 million loan from his father into an empire. The New York Times says it was more like $60.7 million in loans (that the amount would be worth $140 million in today’s dollars and that much of it was never repaid)."

What is it you people just can't grasp? Believing anything Trump claims is always like believing he'll pay his bill in full.

Fact Check: Trump’s claim that he built his company with $1 million loan

Trump consistently lowballs the help he got from his father. Trump has suggested he got his start when he obtained a $1 million loan from his father. “My father gave me a small loan of a million dollars,” he told NBC in October which he claimed he had to pay back with interest. “A million dollars isn’t very much compared to what I built.”

But that ignores the fact that he joined his father’s thriving real estate business after college and that he relied on his father’s connections as he made his way in the real estate world.

For instance, Fred Trump — along with the Hyatt hotel chain — jointly guaranteed the $70 million construction loan from Manufacturers Hanover bank, “each assuming a 50 percent share of the obligation and each committing itself to complete the project should Donald be unable to finish it,” according to veteran Trump chronicler Wayne Barrett in his 1992 book, ]Trump: The Deals and the Downfall.


Trump also benefited from three trusts that had been set up for family members. In 1976, Fred Trump set up eight $1 million trusts, one each for his five children and three grandchildren, according to a casino document. (That today would be worth about $4 million in inflation-adjusted dollars.) The casino document lists several other loans from Trump’s father to his son, including a $7.5 million loan with at least a 12 percent interest rate that was still outstanding in 1981.

The Wall Street Journal on Sept. 23 reported that a 1985 casino-license document showed that Donald Trump owed his father and father’s businesses about $14 million.

In a 2007 deposition, Trump admitted he had borrowed “a small amount” from his father’s estate: “I think it was like in the $9 million range.” And as Trump’s casinos ran into trouble, Trump’s father also purchased $3.5 million in gaming chips but did not use them, so the casino would have enough cash to make payments on its mortgage — a transaction that casino authorities later said was an illegal loan.[/I]

So the answer is no. Thanks for playing dainty.

 

[OldFlame]

You are the one claiming she didn’t work at McDonalds
Burden of proof is on you

No, she claimed she did, burden of proof is on her, and she's provided none.

 

[rightwinger]

No, she claimed she did, burden of proof is on her, and she's provided none.

All she needs to do is tell Republicans to fuck themselves

She has no obligation to disprove their wild claims

 

[OldFlame]

All she needs to do is tell Republicans to fuck themselves

She has no obligation to disprove their wild claims

Well then go fuck yourself, we have no obligation to disprove anything either.

And there's the true outlook of the left, all you're interested in is power and one party rule, you don't give a damn about unity or having all citizens in this country 'represented'.

 

[Mashmont]

you poor thing

always commenting on stuff you're totally clueless about

“I did the french fries and I did the ice cream,” she told workers.

She acknowledged in her remarks at the time that she did not rely on the job to support a family unlike many workers who do rely on income from typically lower-wage fast food work.

“There was not a family relying on me to pay the rent, put food on the table and keep the bills paid by the end of the month,” she added. “But the reality of McDonald’s is that a majority of the folk who are working there today are relying on that income to sustain a household and a family.”

Drives Trump cuckoo

It's a daddy issue with all these Communists. Bill Clinton, 0bama, Harris....all hold a deep anger over authority because their deadbeat dads left the family. They've since been trying to take it out on everyone else. Hitler, Mao and Stalin also had alcoholic violent fathers who beat them.

On the other hand? Trump--Great mentor father. GWBush-great mentor father. GHWBush- great mentor father.

 

[Thunderbird]

Kamala Harris' Claim of Middle-Class Upbringing Claim Scrutinized - Washington Digest

Vice President Kamala Harris claimed during Tuesday's presidential debate that she was raised in a middle-class household, sparking debate and fact-checking efforts. However, fact-checkers have found this claim to be mostly false, as Harris grew up in an affluent neighborhood in Montreal...

washingtondigest.com

Vice President Kamala Harris claimed during Tuesday's presidential debate that she was raised in a middle-class household, sparking debate and fact-checking efforts.


However, fact-checkers have found this claim to be mostly false, as Harris grew up in an affluent neighborhood in Montreal, Canada, far from the modest life she suggested she knew, as Breitbart reports.

Harris made the comment while sidestepping a direct question about whether Americans were better off now than four years ago.


Instead of answering, she pivoted to her personal background, suggesting that her middle-class upbringing shaped her understanding of the needs of average Americans. Harris emphasized that her plan would uplift middle-class and working families.

Harris’ Focus on Middle-Class Solutions​

In an attempt to further align with the struggles of working-class families, Harris shared her belief in the dreams and ambitions of the American people.


She elaborated on her proposed “opportunity economy,” claiming that it would address the challenges facing many Americans, including high housing costs and insufficient support for young families.

The vice president's statements painted a picture of a person who understands the struggles of everyday citizens. She noted the shortage of affordable housing and the difficulty many families face in raising their children under current economic conditions. Harris positioned herself as someone who would deliver solutions to these issues.

Fact-Check Reveals Harris’ Wealthy Upbringing

However, a closer look at Harris’ background reveals that her claim of being raised in a middle-class environment may not reflect reality.

Breitbart News politics editor Emma-Jo Morris fact-checked Harris’ statements and reported that Harris grew up in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Montreal, Canada. Westmount, the area in question, is described by Jo-Morris as not only the most affluent area in Montreal but also one of the richest neighborhoods in all of Canada.


Harris’ home during her teenage years was located on Grosvenor Avenue, a prestigious street lined with Victorian homes. According to Harris’ high school friend, these homes often sell for over $1 million CAD. This stands in stark contrast to Harris’ portrayal of a modest, middle-class life.

Harris’ Friend Paints a Different Picture​

An op-ed written by Harris’ former high school friend further contradicts the vice president's claims of a struggling background. According to this source, Harris enjoyed a stable and comfortable upbringing, complete with family dinners and a secure home life. This depiction of her youth seems to conflict with the narrative of hardship and struggle that Harris implied during the debate.

If Harris and Walz are talking they are lying.

 

[rightwinger]

Well then go fuck yourself, we have no obligation to disprove anything either.

And there's the true outlook of the left, all you're interested in is power and one party rule, you don't give a damn about unity or having all citizens in this country 'represented'.

Obama fell for the same trap
Of course I was born in Hawaii. Here is my Birth Certificate

Birthers just called it fake


Fool me once…..

 

[rightwinger]

And there's the true outlook of the left, all you're interested in is power and one party rule, you don't give a damn about unity or having all citizens in this country 'represented'.

Democrats are just interested in winning elections

If Republicans run bizarre candidates who make wild statements……Democrats are not obligated to let them win, out of “fairness”

 

[OldFlame]

Democrats are just interested in winning elections

If Republicans run bizarre candidates who make wild statements……Democrats are not obligated to let them win, out of “fairness”

Lies, it's all you have.

 

[rightwinger]

Lies, it's all you have.

Ummm….You are running Trump

Can I offer you a Cat Sandwich?

 

[healthmyths]

You are the one claiming she didn’t work at McDonalds
Burden of proof is on you

Harris has made this claim repeatedly over the years, and multiple reputable news outlets have reported on the story.
But, aside from Harris' testimony itself, there is no evidence (such as a photo, employment record or confirmation from a friend or family member) to independently verify the claim. We've reached out to Harris' campaign and McDonald's and we'll update this report when, or if, we learn more.

Harris Claims She Had a Job at McDonald's While at College. Here's What We Found

The vice president's claim that she once worked for the fast food giant resurfaced during the 2024 presidential campaign.

www.snopes.com

 

[OldFlame]

Ummm….You are running Trump

Can I offer you a Cat Sandwich?

And you're running Harris, you voted for her in the primary of course...

 

[rightwinger]

Harris has made this claim repeatedly over the years, and multiple reputable news outlets have reported on the story.
But, aside from Harris' testimony itself, there is no evidence (such as a photo, employment record or confirmation from a friend or family member) to independently verify the claim. We've reached out to Harris' campaign and McDonald's and we'll update this report when, or if, we learn more.

Harris Claims She Had a Job at McDonald's While at College. Here's What We Found

The vice president's claim that she once worked for the fast food giant resurfaced during the 2024 presidential campaign.

www.snopes.com

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How can you “prove” you had a minimum wage job 40 years ago?
Why would you want to?

 

[postman]

Kamala Harris' Claim of Middle-Class Upbringing Claim Scrutinized - Washington Digest

Vice President Kamala Harris claimed during Tuesday's presidential debate that she was raised in a middle-class household, sparking debate and fact-checking efforts. However, fact-checkers have found this claim to be mostly false, as Harris grew up in an affluent neighborhood in Montreal...

washingtondigest.com

Vice President Kamala Harris claimed during Tuesday's presidential debate that she was raised in a middle-class household, sparking debate and fact-checking efforts.


However, fact-checkers have found this claim to be mostly false, as Harris grew up in an affluent neighborhood in Montreal, Canada, far from the modest life she suggested she knew, as Breitbart reports.

Harris made the comment while sidestepping a direct question about whether Americans were better off now than four years ago.


Instead of answering, she pivoted to her personal background, suggesting that her middle-class upbringing shaped her understanding of the needs of average Americans. Harris emphasized that her plan would uplift middle-class and working families.

Harris’ Focus on Middle-Class Solutions​

In an attempt to further align with the struggles of working-class families, Harris shared her belief in the dreams and ambitions of the American people.


She elaborated on her proposed “opportunity economy,” claiming that it would address the challenges facing many Americans, including high housing costs and insufficient support for young families.

The vice president's statements painted a picture of a person who understands the struggles of everyday citizens. She noted the shortage of affordable housing and the difficulty many families face in raising their children under current economic conditions. Harris positioned herself as someone who would deliver solutions to these issues.

Fact-Check Reveals Harris’ Wealthy Upbringing

However, a closer look at Harris’ background reveals that her claim of being raised in a middle-class environment may not reflect reality.

Breitbart News politics editor Emma-Jo Morris fact-checked Harris’ statements and reported that Harris grew up in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Montreal, Canada. Westmount, the area in question, is described by Jo-Morris as not only the most affluent area in Montreal but also one of the richest neighborhoods in all of Canada.


Harris’ home during her teenage years was located on Grosvenor Avenue, a prestigious street lined with Victorian homes. According to Harris’ high school friend, these homes often sell for over $1 million CAD. This stands in stark contrast to Harris’ portrayal of a modest, middle-class life.

Harris’ Friend Paints a Different Picture​

An op-ed written by Harris’ former high school friend further contradicts the vice president's claims of a struggling background. According to this source, Harris enjoyed a stable and comfortable upbringing, complete with family dinners and a secure home life. This depiction of her youth seems to conflict with the narrative of hardship and struggle that Harris implied during the debate.

She said middle class, which Westmount actually is, even today.

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www.clevercanadian.ca

Westmount doesn't even make the top 10 in Canada (no comparison to America mind you)

Facts:

What is the median household income in Westmount?
Median household income $117,000

What is the Average Salary in Westmount, Quebec? (Sep, 2024)
As of Sep 24 the average annual salary in Westmount is $45,083. Just in case you need a simple salary calculator, that works out to be approximately $21.67 an hour

 

[postman]

Probably around 20 and dead broke
A great look which we know you find troublesome to your sexuality confusion
Also, it is Not a naked photograph

What you also leave out, Melania was WORKING, on a visitors visa, which was illegal.

Funny how Trump doesn't mention he married an illegal.

 

[Votto]

She said middle class, which Westmount actually is, even today.

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www.clevercanadian.ca

Westmount doesn't even make the top 10 in Canada (no comparison to America mind you)

Facts:

What is the median household income in Westmount?
Median household income $117,000

What is the Average Salary in Westmount, Quebec? (Sep, 2024)
As of Sep 24 the average annual salary in Westmount is $45,083. Just in case you need a simple salary calculator, that works out to be approximately $21.67 an hour

It could be that her daddy, which had tenure at Stanford, cut her off financially.

Marxist fathers usually kick their family to the curb, like Obama's daddy.

It's just how they roll. And yes, he was above middle class wages being tenured at Stanford.

Stanford University Professor Salary by Academic Rank

The 2023 average salary of 1,416 faculty working for Stanford University is $202,710. Check faculty salary by academic rank and position.

www.univstats.com

They make close to $300,000 a year for being arrogant, greedy, Marxist a holes who destroy families.

 

[rightwinger]

Funny how Trump doesn't mention he married an illegal.

He also married a Communist

 

[healthmyths]

How can you “prove” you had a minimum wage job 40 years ago?
Why would you want to?

Unlike you I provide links. Where are your links proving differently than Snopes supplies?

there is no evidence (such as a photo, employment record or confirmation from a friend or family member) to independently verify the claim. We've reached out to Harris' campaign and McDonald's and we'll update this report when, or if, we learn more.

Harris Claims She Had a Job at McDonald's While at College. Here's What We Found

The vice president's claim that she once worked for the fast food giant resurfaced during the 2024 presidential campaign.

www.snopes.com

 

[postman]

No, she claimed she did, burden of proof is on her, and she's provided none.

She's provided a lot of proof, but none that you'd accept.
How many records do you have from 40 years ago?

And more importantly, what records does McDonalds HQ have of their franchise operations from 40 years ago?