Delusions of Israelis and Palestinians Are Destroying the Peace Process

[Shusha]

Sure he did. Gush Etzion, Ma'aleh Adumim and some of the communities around Jerusalem.

In other words you have no idea, show me the map.

Anyone who wants to discuss this topic seriously should already know where Gush Etzion and Ma'aleh Adumim are. Google your own map. Its easy enough to find.

It was a most reasonable deal.

From a Zionist colonist's perspective probably.

It was a reasonable deal from the Palestinian perspective. It was the best deal they were ever going to get. (Wave bye-bye to that ship as it is lost on the horizon).

Speaking of delusions, what are the Palestinians going to get out a peace agreement that was better than that? What delusions are they clinging to?

 

[Humanity]

That ship has sailed. SO sailed. He should have taken it.

Even rats won't jump on a sinking ship with a corrupt captain!

Would you?

 

[USAF 2023]

An interesting analysis of the current state of non-peace. It's disturbing, because in order to overcome the status quo, deep changes in national psyche need to be looked at on both sides. It offers a very different analysis than what I usually see.

Delusions of Israelis and Palestinians Are Destroying the Peace Process

......There are certain psychological concepts that are relevant to understanding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict; the concept of illusion is an essential one. In The Future of an Illusion, Freud offers the following definition: “…we call a belief an illusion when a wish-fulfillment is a prominent factor in its motivation, and in doing so we disregard its relations to reality, just as the illusion itself sets no store by verification.”


What is characteristic of illusions is that: 1) they are derived from deep human wishes, and 2) the belief is held (or would be held) in the absence of any compelling evidence, or good rational grounds, on its behalf.


It is impossible to deny that both Israelis and Palestinians are in the grip of very powerful illusions that only serve to prolong the conflict and prevent any mutual understanding. In particular, the belief shared by many Israelis that they have a biblical right to the land (including Judea and Samaria) and that God gave it to the Jews in perpetuity is undoubtedly an illusion of yesterday.


This belief is not affirmed because there is real evidence that God deemed it to be (although two Jewish kingdoms did exist — the first in the tenth century BCE and the second beginning in 539 BCE — on the same land), but because it satisfies a deep-seated psychological need for a God-given Jewish homeland.


The belief that by expanding the settlements Israel will augment its national security and maintain its hold on the entire land is an illusion of tomorrow, which generally ignores the presence of Muslims in the same land for more than 1,300 years.


It is important to note how these illusions sustain and reinforce one another, and constitute a psychological barrier that is much more impervious to critical reflection. Israel’s illusions have served to create the logic for occupation.


The Palestinians, for their part, are not without their own illusions. They also believe that God has reserved the land for them, and appeal to the fact that they had inhabited the land for centuries. From their perspective, the presence of the al-Aqsa Mosque, which was built in 705 AD in Jerusalem, attests to their historical and religious affinity to the Holy City.


They also cling to the idea that they will someday return to the land of their forbears, as they have and continue to insist on the right of return of the Palestinian refugees, even though this has become a virtual impossibility.


The Palestinians hold fast to their illusions of yesterday and tomorrow just as blindly and desperately as the Israelis, which leads to resistance to and fear of change. As such, unless both sides change course and accept each other’s affinity to the same land, specifically because it is religiously-based, the situation is bound to lead to a catastrophe.


This has contributed to making the Israeli-Palestinian conflict both chronic and intractable, as the various illusions are continuously and consciously nurtured by daily hostile and often violent encounters between the two sides.


In seeking to bridge concepts that could link between the domains of psychology and politics in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it could be proposed that a collective mutual resistance to change (both conscious and deliberate, and inner unconscious) protects a vulnerable identity.


Compared, for example, to the stable and mature political identities of the American, British, and French nations, the political identities of both the Israeli and Palestinian peoples are, in a way, in their adolescence.


Identities in this setting are more vulnerable, and the protagonists are naturally more defensive and resistant to change. By its very nature, the players must find it difficult (if not impossible) to articulate this publicly, as to do so is to admit to this vulnerability.


The concept of psychological resistance to change may well affect the political setting in general and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in particular; it is closely connected to perceptions at many levels and provides protection for vulnerable identity formation.


It is this mindset, strengthened by historical experiences, which transcends the more than seven decades since the Israeli-Palestinian conflict began. Individuals and groups, Israelis and Palestinians alike, have and continue to interpret the nature of the discord between them as “you versus me” in a prejudiced and selective way.


In turn, this has stifled any new information and enabled the continuing resistance to change, which could shed new light on the nature and substance of the conflict and help advance the peace process.


The concept of unconscious resistance to change in this setting links well to the view of perceptions driving the polarization in the conflict. Historical experience, which formulates perceptions, serves among other things to enhance the sense of identity of “who we really are,” a formative collective assumption that sits at the bedrock of both key players and drives functional and dysfunctional behavior.


In principle, such a mindset prevents either side from entertaining new ideas that might lead to compromises for a peaceful solution. The paradox here is that majorities on both sides do want and seek peace, knowing full well that this would require significant concessions, but are unable to reconcile the required concessions with imbedded perceptions that have precluded these compromises as a result of resistance to and fear of change.


Therefore, any framework for peace must include provisions that would dramatically increase the odds in favor of a solution. First, both sides need to commit to reaching an agreement based on a two-state solution out of the conviction that change, which translates to coexistence, is inevitable. Therefore, they ought to adjust to each other’s requirements, which of necessity requires them to make significant concessions.


Second, to facilitate that, they must undertake reconciliatory people-to-people social, economic, cultural, and security interactions to mitigate their resistance to change, which must begin, at a minimum, one year before the negotiations commence to create the psychological and political atmosphere to cultivate the trust necessary for substantive and successful peace negotiations...


The resumption of peace talks will go nowhere unless Israelis and Palestinians change their prejudiced perception and resistance to and fear of change, and finally come to the realization that their fate is intertwined and neither can live in peace and security without the other.
​

The above will never happen for these reasons;

Demanding Israel return to " borders" that were never recognized

Demanding some of the " 67 borders" we hear about so much

Refusing to recognize Israel as a Jewish State

Their plan to eventually annex Israel to the Palestinian State.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Sure he did. Gush Etzion, Ma'aleh Adumim and some of the communities around Jerusalem.

In other words you have no idea, show me the map.

Anyone who wants to discuss this topic seriously should already know where Gush Etzion and Ma'aleh Adumim are. Google your own map. Its easy enough to find.

It was a most reasonable deal.

From a Zionist colonist's perspective probably.

It was a reasonable deal from the Palestinian perspective. It was the best deal they were ever going to get. (Wave bye-bye to that ship as it is lost on the horizon).

Speaking of delusions, what are the Palestinians going to get out a peace agreement that was better than that? What delusions are they clinging to?

I am willing to bet that Challenger doesn't know where Ma'alei Adumim or Gush Etzion are located. Especially since you answered his question with very specific name-places (that I, of course, recognized right away).

 

[Boston1]

That ship has sailed. SO sailed. He should have taken it.

Even rats won't jump on a sinking ship with a corrupt captain!

Would you?

Tell us more about how rats are able to recognize a politically corrupt captain. This aught to be good ;--))

The simple fact is that Arab Muslims blew it and aren't going to be offered that deal again. Personally I don't think they should be offered anything.

Follow the Geneva Conventions to the letter one terrorist enclave at a time after putting the whole ugly pile of them under complete lockdown and rinse and repeat as necessary.

The Israeli's could have the violent among them gone in a flash.

The Delusion is that they don't have the option to really crack down on these jerks. The Arab Muslims should be thanking their lucky stars the Iraeli's have put up with them so far.

The peace process is only being disrupted by Israelis overly tolerant attitude.

 

[Shusha]

In case anyone is wondering what I mean by "that ship has sailed", this happened a few days ago.

Israel is done with the delusion of finding a partner for peace. She is going to look after her own interests. Unilaterally. That includes building a corridor from Jerusalem to Jericho and the border with Jordan. This corridor will provide essential security access to defend her borders, and, hey, if a few tourism dollars find their way to her that will be a nice perk. Unfortunately, this spells the end of a contiguous wanna-be Palestinian State, though it is not too late for a Palestinian-only highway to connect the two halves. It also dispels any illusions (delusions) that Jerusalem is on the negotiating table. Which also, of course, solves the problem of the Temple Mount.

 

[rhodescholar]

To some extent this is true. The solution is one state with Jewish and Muslim and Christian social equality, and political equal rights guaranteed by a written constitution in a secular state. If it works in America, it can work in the Zionist paradise.

Sure thing idiot asshole. Why don't you point out the one country on earth where arab muslims respect the sovereignty of christians and jews in the mideast. Oh, that's right, the arab muslims ethnically cleansed all 1 MM of the jews out, and have been working strenuously to do the same to the christians.

BTW the OP article is demonstrably false; the so-called muslim presence in Israel, particularly Jerusalem, was minimal for centuries.

 

[rhodescholar]

You're part of the miniscule minority that believes in the illusion of a Jordan/Israel 2 state solution

Minority? No REALITY. The falestinians are a manufactured, false people with phony grievances contrived out of a hat. Their credibility is as weak as yours - nonexistent. The fakestinians are going to be moved out of gaza and the west bank, and Israel is going to usurp these areas in their entirety - it is inevitable.

 

[rhodescholar]

Oh so generous! You can have a "sovereign" state, except for all the trappings that enable sovereignty. Pity he never showed Abbas which 6.3% of Palestine he wanted. Olmert merely offered a Gaza style existance for the West Bank.

You're a complete fucking idiot, I gave you more credit than I should have.

The fakestinians are ALREADY sovereign you asshole; they have their own government and run their own lives. If it was such a "bad" offer - where was the arab muslim counter offer?

Further, given that over 60% of gazans support the knife attacks/further terrorism against Israelis, it is clear that they have no interest in stopping the violence.

 

[montelatici]

To some extent this is true. The solution is one state with Jewish and Muslim and Christian social equality, and political equal rights guaranteed by a written constitution in a secular state. If it works in America, it can work in the Zionist paradise.

Sure thing idiot asshole. Why don't you point out the one country on earth where arab muslims respect the sovereignty of christians and jews in the mideast. Oh, that's right, the arab muslims ethnically cleansed all 1 MM of the jews out, and have been working strenuously to do the same to the christians.

BTW the OP article is demonstrably false; the so-called muslim presence in Israel, particularly Jerusalem, was minimal for centuries.

The only falsehood is your post.

"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews.

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/349B02280A930813052565E90048ED1C

 

[Challenger]

You really are just blinded by hate aren't you ?

You seem to be obsessed with this "hate" meme. I can't help but notice that the "hate" comes almost exclusively from the Zionist camp, so if you want to see a real "hater" go look in the mirror.

 

[Challenger]

Bison's Peyote fueled fantasy:

Hasbara

noun informal

noun: Hasbara, hasbara's, hoosbooroo.

1. 1.
   Complete and utter bullshit spewed by Arab Muslim and terrorist sympathizers in reference to the Arab Israeli conflict.
   
   
   
2. 2.
   Whatever the Arab Muslim and terrorist sympathizers wish to think it means
   
   
   
3. 3
   Ask ForeverYoung, he seems to be the guy who actually knows what it means.

The reality, or at least as good a definition as I could find in a 20 second search (there are much better ones):

"Hasbara is not breaking news, most of our readers are already familiar with Israeli Hasbara (which means “explanation” in Hebrew). If you admin a facebook or twitter account that posts anything remotely pro-Palestine or work in the media in general, you are probably all too familiar with the persistent Hasbara that floods the comments of every post about Palestine. It’s a force to be reckoned with that attempts to control message and kill credibility of articles or commentary that reveal anything negative about Israel.

Wikipedia defines Hasbara as “Public diplomacy in Israel” and refers to it as “public relations efforts to disseminate abroad positive information about Israel.” That’s true enough but in reality Hasbara is a manipulative propaganda machine. Students are paid to spread pro-Israel messages online and have been slaving away in the Hasbara War Room to sell the Gaza war in social media. According to the Hasbara Handbook – their main target audience is USA." Israel: The Hasbara Handbook. Are you persuadable?

A Guide To HASBARA TROLLS

Hasbara Trolls are generally quite polite at first. They pop up when someone is critical of Israel and it’s policies or interests. They target, write, engage, educate and insult. From my research it seems that there is some kind of hierarchy of trolls, they have leaders who tell them targets and guide them with their spin. Most work voluntarily but some are paid for by wealthy sponsors. They track topical keywords and persons using public websites such as topsy.com. Problems arise if one rejects the explanations being offered by the trolls, then their troll nature becomes apparent very quickly as they resort to smears and abuse.

Sounds a lot like our "bovine" friend here, to me. Looks like you've "outed" yourself Bison 1

 

[Challenger]

Anyone who wants to discuss this topic seriously should already know where Gush Etzion and Ma'aleh Adumim are. Google your own map. Its easy enough to find.

Anyone who wants to discuss this topic seriously should already know that the Gush Etzion and Ma'aleh Adumim areas comprise a lot more than 6% of the West Bank, which is why I asked you to show me the map. I assumed you'd realise I meant Olmert's map, produced at the "negotiations", my mistake.

 

[Challenger]

In case anyone is wondering what I mean by "that ship has sailed", this happened a few days ago.

Israel is done with the delusion of finding a partner for peace. She is going to look after her own interests. Unilaterally. That includes building a corridor from Jerusalem to Jericho and the border with Jordan. This corridor will provide essential security access to defend her borders, and, hey, if a few tourism dollars find their way to her that will be a nice perk. Unfortunately, this spells the end of a contiguous wanna-be Palestinian State, though it is not too late for a Palestinian-only highway to connect the two halves. It also dispels any illusions (delusions) that Jerusalem is on the negotiating table. Which also, of course, solves the problem of the Temple Mount.

Which was the Zionist plan all along.

'...it was Israel’s Arab neighbours, not Israel, who consistently sought peace. And it was Israel (and its Western allies) who consistently rejected peace, or limited it so as to maintain Israel’s hegemony over the Palestinians and the region. Time and again the Israelis had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the peace table.

Israel finally made peace agreements with Egypt and Jordan, but only after the very costly Yom Kippur War made it clear to Israel that it could not continue in isolation from its neighbours.

Despite peace with Egypt, Israel's continued maltreatment of the Palestinians led to the First Intifada, in 1987, which served as a wakeup call that the occupation was intolerable. The eventual result was the Oslo Accords, kickstarted by the PLO's full and official recognition of Israel in 1993. So the PLO has officially recognized Israel's right to exist for 22 years.

The Oslo Accords were sabotaged by Israel's continuing and relentless settlement-building and the Palestinians rose again in 2001. But even as the Second Intifada was raging, the Arab League made a another comprehensive peace proposal, receiving unanimous approval from all of Israel's neighbours (Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and others such as Saudi Arabia and the Emirates). The proposal was based on recognition of the Israeli state, normalization of relations between the entire Arab region and Israel in return for a complete withdrawal from the occupied territories and a just settlement of the refugee situation based on UN Resolution 194. This was re-endorsed by the Arab League in 2007.'---"Israeli Rejectionism: A Hidden Agenda in the Middle East Peace Process" by Daphna Levit and Zalman Amit.

 

[Phoenall]

That ship has sailed. SO sailed. He should have taken it.

Even rats won't jump on a sinking ship with a corrupt captain!

Would you?

History shows that Palestinian sewer rats and neo Marxists do all the time, just look at your own failures since jumping on the corrupt team Palestine band wagon

 

[Phoenall]

An interesting analysis of the current state of non-peace. It's disturbing, because in order to overcome the status quo, deep changes in national psyche need to be looked at on both sides. It offers a very different analysis than what I usually see.

Delusions of Israelis and Palestinians Are Destroying the Peace Process

......There are certain psychological concepts that are relevant to understanding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict; the concept of illusion is an essential one. In The Future of an Illusion, Freud offers the following definition: “…we call a belief an illusion when a wish-fulfillment is a prominent factor in its motivation, and in doing so we disregard its relations to reality, just as the illusion itself sets no store by verification.”


What is characteristic of illusions is that: 1) they are derived from deep human wishes, and 2) the belief is held (or would be held) in the absence of any compelling evidence, or good rational grounds, on its behalf.


It is impossible to deny that both Israelis and Palestinians are in the grip of very powerful illusions that only serve to prolong the conflict and prevent any mutual understanding. In particular, the belief shared by many Israelis that they have a biblical right to the land (including Judea and Samaria) and that God gave it to the Jews in perpetuity is undoubtedly an illusion of yesterday.


This belief is not affirmed because there is real evidence that God deemed it to be (although two Jewish kingdoms did exist — the first in the tenth century BCE and the second beginning in 539 BCE — on the same land), but because it satisfies a deep-seated psychological need for a God-given Jewish homeland.


The belief that by expanding the settlements Israel will augment its national security and maintain its hold on the entire land is an illusion of tomorrow, which generally ignores the presence of Muslims in the same land for more than 1,300 years.


It is important to note how these illusions sustain and reinforce one another, and constitute a psychological barrier that is much more impervious to critical reflection. Israel’s illusions have served to create the logic for occupation.


The Palestinians, for their part, are not without their own illusions. They also believe that God has reserved the land for them, and appeal to the fact that they had inhabited the land for centuries. From their perspective, the presence of the al-Aqsa Mosque, which was built in 705 AD in Jerusalem, attests to their historical and religious affinity to the Holy City.


They also cling to the idea that they will someday return to the land of their forbears, as they have and continue to insist on the right of return of the Palestinian refugees, even though this has become a virtual impossibility.


The Palestinians hold fast to their illusions of yesterday and tomorrow just as blindly and desperately as the Israelis, which leads to resistance to and fear of change. As such, unless both sides change course and accept each other’s affinity to the same land, specifically because it is religiously-based, the situation is bound to lead to a catastrophe.


This has contributed to making the Israeli-Palestinian conflict both chronic and intractable, as the various illusions are continuously and consciously nurtured by daily hostile and often violent encounters between the two sides.


In seeking to bridge concepts that could link between the domains of psychology and politics in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it could be proposed that a collective mutual resistance to change (both conscious and deliberate, and inner unconscious) protects a vulnerable identity.


Compared, for example, to the stable and mature political identities of the American, British, and French nations, the political identities of both the Israeli and Palestinian peoples are, in a way, in their adolescence.


Identities in this setting are more vulnerable, and the protagonists are naturally more defensive and resistant to change. By its very nature, the players must find it difficult (if not impossible) to articulate this publicly, as to do so is to admit to this vulnerability.


The concept of psychological resistance to change may well affect the political setting in general and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in particular; it is closely connected to perceptions at many levels and provides protection for vulnerable identity formation.


It is this mindset, strengthened by historical experiences, which transcends the more than seven decades since the Israeli-Palestinian conflict began. Individuals and groups, Israelis and Palestinians alike, have and continue to interpret the nature of the discord between them as “you versus me” in a prejudiced and selective way.


In turn, this has stifled any new information and enabled the continuing resistance to change, which could shed new light on the nature and substance of the conflict and help advance the peace process.


The concept of unconscious resistance to change in this setting links well to the view of perceptions driving the polarization in the conflict. Historical experience, which formulates perceptions, serves among other things to enhance the sense of identity of “who we really are,” a formative collective assumption that sits at the bedrock of both key players and drives functional and dysfunctional behavior.


In principle, such a mindset prevents either side from entertaining new ideas that might lead to compromises for a peaceful solution. The paradox here is that majorities on both sides do want and seek peace, knowing full well that this would require significant concessions, but are unable to reconcile the required concessions with imbedded perceptions that have precluded these compromises as a result of resistance to and fear of change.


Therefore, any framework for peace must include provisions that would dramatically increase the odds in favor of a solution. First, both sides need to commit to reaching an agreement based on a two-state solution out of the conviction that change, which translates to coexistence, is inevitable. Therefore, they ought to adjust to each other’s requirements, which of necessity requires them to make significant concessions.


Second, to facilitate that, they must undertake reconciliatory people-to-people social, economic, cultural, and security interactions to mitigate their resistance to change, which must begin, at a minimum, one year before the negotiations commence to create the psychological and political atmosphere to cultivate the trust necessary for substantive and successful peace negotiations...


The resumption of peace talks will go nowhere unless Israelis and Palestinians change their prejudiced perception and resistance to and fear of change, and finally come to the realization that their fate is intertwined and neither can live in peace and security without the other.
​

The above will never happen for these reasons;

Demanding Israel return to " borders" that were never recognized

Demanding some of the " 67 borders" we hear about so much

Refusing to recognize Israel as a Jewish State

Their plan to eventually annex Israel to the Palestinian State.

The fools from team Palestine never state which 1967 lines they mean when they bring in the 1967 borders. Those who have checked the details know that in 1967 two sets of ceasefire lines existed, those from 1949 that the Palestinians breached and those set in 1967 when the UN brokered a ceasefire. They are very devious in their methods to get others demanding the 1949 lines as they know under the UN charter the land was ownerless when Jordan and Egypt cast it free and became Israeli land.

 

[Phoenall]

To some extent this is true. The solution is one state with Jewish and Muslim and Christian social equality, and political equal rights guaranteed by a written constitution in a secular state. If it works in America, it can work in the Zionist paradise.

Sure thing idiot asshole. Why don't you point out the one country on earth where arab muslims respect the sovereignty of christians and jews in the mideast. Oh, that's right, the arab muslims ethnically cleansed all 1 MM of the jews out, and have been working strenuously to do the same to the christians.

BTW the OP article is demonstrably false; the so-called muslim presence in Israel, particularly Jerusalem, was minimal for centuries.

The only falsehood is your post.

"AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.

I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews.

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Completely destroyed when Churchill stood up in the house and gave his first hand experience of Palestine and told the nation that arab muslims where flooding Palestine with illegal immigrants so they had a demographic superiority.

Even your own religion calls you a LIAR with its reports based on the census by the Ottomans.


By the way you do realise that you have just proven another of your links to be a LIE as here you say that all of Palestine had but a few Bedouin, yet you claim east Palestine was populated by bedouin

 

[Phoenall]

Anyone who wants to discuss this topic seriously should already know where Gush Etzion and Ma'aleh Adumim are. Google your own map. Its easy enough to find.

Anyone who wants to discuss this topic seriously should already know that the Gush Etzion and Ma'aleh Adumim areas comprise a lot more than 6% of the West Bank, which is why I asked you to show me the map. I assumed you'd realise I meant Olmert's map, produced at the "negotiations", my mistake.

Back pedalling again because you know you have been shown up as an imbecile

 

[montelatici]

Bison's Peyote fueled fantasy:

Hasbara

noun informal

noun: Hasbara, hasbara's, hoosbooroo.

1. 1.
   Complete and utter bullshit spewed by Arab Muslim and terrorist sympathizers in reference to the Arab Israeli conflict.
   
   
   
2. 2.
   Whatever the Arab Muslim and terrorist sympathizers wish to think it means
   
   
   
3. 3
   Ask ForeverYoung, he seems to be the guy who actually knows what it means.

The reality, or at least as good a definition as I could find in a 20 second search (there are much better ones):

"Hasbara is not breaking news, most of our readers are already familiar with Israeli Hasbara (which means “explanation” in Hebrew). If you admin a facebook or twitter account that posts anything remotely pro-Palestine or work in the media in general, you are probably all too familiar with the persistent Hasbara that floods the comments of every post about Palestine. It’s a force to be reckoned with that attempts to control message and kill credibility of articles or commentary that reveal anything negative about Israel.

Wikipedia defines Hasbara as “Public diplomacy in Israel” and refers to it as “public relations efforts to disseminate abroad positive information about Israel.” That’s true enough but in reality Hasbara is a manipulative propaganda machine. Students are paid to spread pro-Israel messages online and have been slaving away in the Hasbara War Room to sell the Gaza war in social media. According to the Hasbara Handbook – their main target audience is USA." Israel: The Hasbara Handbook. Are you persuadable?

A Guide To HASBARA TROLLS

Hasbara Trolls are generally quite polite at first. They pop up when someone is critical of Israel and it’s policies or interests. They target, write, engage, educate and insult. From my research it seems that there is some kind of hierarchy of trolls, they have leaders who tell them targets and guide them with their spin. Most work voluntarily but some are paid for by wealthy sponsors. They track topical keywords and persons using public websites such as topsy.com. Problems arise if one rejects the explanations being offered by the trolls, then their troll nature becomes apparent very quickly as they resort to smears and abuse.

Sounds a lot like our "bovine" friend here, to me. Looks like you've "outed" yourself Bison 1

I had the same impression.

 

[Humanity]

Tell us more about how rats are able to recognize a politically corrupt captain. This aught to be good ;--))

You are aware that Olmert was about as corrupt as they come aren't you?

The "Olmert Plan" was a political maneuver to try and save his failing political career and avoid going to jail on corruption charges!

One of the reasons given why the 'plan' was rejected is that Olmert was coming to the end of his presidency and, likely, any agreement would be overturned by the next president...

As I said, jumping on a sinking ship, with a corrupt captain does not make for a lasting solution!