Debunking The Militant Atheists

These people are propagandists distorting the truth
I'm an atheist and I know of others but I've never met a 'militant atheist'. Do they want to wage war on theists or do they just believe in something other than your 'truth'?
Seems fair...
Militant atheist is defined as one who is militantly opposed to theism, theists, and religion. Militant atheists have an extreme hostility towards religious theism that entails a desire to see religion suppressed by force. The label militant atheist tends to be used interchangeably with fundamentalist atheist, new atheist, and anti-theist.
This definition of militant atheist is usually meant pejoratively because the label is typically applied to atheists who do not seek the forced suppression of religion or theism. Instead, religious apologists apply the label "militant" to atheists generally — or at least any atheist that isn't quiet, meek, and obsequious.
Just the ones who condemn respect for those who hold religious beliefs.

IOW, you include christians who beat up Muslims, Asians and anyone who doesn't suck up to your particular god.
Don’t know what you mean by suck up to God but it’s pretty easy to spot aggressors.
 
Atheists are right
About what? That it’s ok to subordinate religion?


Can you give examples of that please?

Oh wait - You mean like christians attacking Muslims and others who don't share their beliefs? That's what you mean, isn't it.
Sure. I can give you examples but it's a long read.


Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
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faith in what ... explain yourself.
God
.
you mean yourself ... that's your faith, try explaining what you are saying.
No. God. Militant atheists condemn respect for people who believe in God and attempt to subordinate their worship of God.


Did you already say which god you're talking about?

If so, I missed it.

There are plenty to choose from and IM(atheist)O, they're all equal and should have equal rights. Would you agree with that? If so, I'm cerrtain you would also agree that atheists have those same rights.
If you don’t want to believe in God, don’t.

Or if you want to believe in ten gods, go right ahead.
 
Just the ones who condemn respect for those who hold religious beliefs.
Religious beliefs are not sacred cows...
The founding fathers thought enough of them.

Wait.
What?

I thought you were talking about the US.

What the founding fathers of the United States believed was important was religious freedom. That's the exact opposite of what you've been saying.

But, since the US has a constitution that guarantees just that, you can spout your hate without fear of reprisal.
I'm sure you believe that is what I have been saying.
 
Atheists are right
About what? That it’s ok to subordinate religion?


Can you give examples of that please?

Oh wait - You mean like christians attacking Muslims and others who don't share their beliefs? That's what you mean, isn't it.
Sure. I can give you examples but it's a long read.


Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
.
faith in what ... explain yourself.
God
.
you mean yourself ... that's your faith, try explaining what you are saying.
No. God. Militant atheists condemn respect for people who believe in God and attempt to subordinate their worship of God.
Not really, atheists just don’t believe God makes sense and want to be left alone
 
Atheists are right
About what? That it’s ok to subordinate religion?


Can you give examples of that please?

Oh wait - You mean like christians attacking Muslims and others who don't share their beliefs? That's what you mean, isn't it.
Sure. I can give you examples but it's a long read.


Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
.
faith in what ... explain yourself.
God
.
you mean yourself ... that's your faith, try explaining what you are saying.
No. God. Militant atheists condemn respect for people who believe in God and attempt to subordinate their worship of God.
No. God. Militant atheists condemn respect for people who believe in God and attempt to subordinate their worship of God.
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your denial of theistic socialism and secular humanism as a weapon disguised as your religious beliefs, christianity is neither religion nor creditable in deference to their proper role in society you are ill suited to deny against their right of self determination they have chosen for themselves.
You never make any sense.
You never make any sense.
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a matter of convenience for the equivocators ...

- are there theistic socialists / secular humanist or are they banded by the desert religions.

- is there a means without the need for a phony christian messiah. and their 4th century christian bible. as necessary for corrections required by the alteration of their phony book ...

- is phony ... a protection provided by common law.
 
Atheists are right
About what? That it’s ok to subordinate religion?


Can you give examples of that please?

Oh wait - You mean like christians attacking Muslims and others who don't share their beliefs? That's what you mean, isn't it.
Sure. I can give you examples but it's a long read.


Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
.
faith in what ... explain yourself.
God
.
you mean yourself ... that's your faith, try explaining what you are saying.
No. God. Militant atheists condemn respect for people who believe in God and attempt to subordinate their worship of God.
Not really, atheists just don’t believe God makes sense and want to be left alone
Sure. That's true for the vast majority of atheists. I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about the ones who are on a mission to subordinate religion.
 
Atheists are right
About what? That it’s ok to subordinate religion?


Can you give examples of that please?

Oh wait - You mean like christians attacking Muslims and others who don't share their beliefs? That's what you mean, isn't it.
Sure. I can give you examples but it's a long read.


Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
.
faith in what ... explain yourself.
God
.
you mean yourself ... that's your faith, try explaining what you are saying.
No. God. Militant atheists condemn respect for people who believe in God and attempt to subordinate their worship of God.
No. God. Militant atheists condemn respect for people who believe in God and attempt to subordinate their worship of God.
.
your denial of theistic socialism and secular humanism as a weapon disguised as your religious beliefs, christianity is neither religion nor creditable in deference to their proper role in society you are ill suited to deny against their right of self determination they have chosen for themselves.
You never make any sense.
You never make any sense.
.
a matter of convenience for the equivocators ...

- are there theistic socialists / secular humanist or are they banded by the desert religions.

- is there a means without the need for a phony christian messiah. and their 4th century christian bible. as necessary for corrections required by the alteration of their phony book ...

- is phony ... a protection provided by common law.
The only one equivocating is you. But that is understandable because your only purpose in this forum is to attack and denigrate Christianity.

Yes, there are theistic socialists and secular humanists. And for the most part they go about their daily lives living and letting others live. That's not what you do though.

You don't want to debate theology. You want to insult and be disrespectful and dehumanize Christians. You are no different than Derek Chauvin or Adolf Hitler in that regard. The only difference between you and them is your target.

You openly and unabashedly display the worst behavior of mankind; intolerance of others. You want to homogenize others. I want them to be diverse and respectful as those are not mutually exclusive terms.
 
Apparently you are ignorant of the history.
Tell me the liberty defending founders didn't hypocritically enable slavery in exchange for constitutional ratification. Go on, tell me that.
Yes, but only because they couldn't do both at the same time. But they did take parallel steps to end slavery. They negotiated a date to end the importation of slavery and put it in the constitution, they followed through on the earliest date allowed to abolish the importation of slavery and they halted the expansion of slavery by writing laws.

So when you label them as hypocritical, that isn't really correct. They did the best they could with what they had. Even Frederick Douglas agreed that the constitution was an anti-slavery document. Even Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederate States, acknowledged that the Founding Fathers believed that slavery was wrong but could not end it and found the nation.

I can't imagine why any American would disparage the Founding fathers like you did.
 
That it’s ok to subordinate religion?
Its impossible to subordinate something everyone has. I think you are looking for religion other than their own, which is accurate.
religion is a fairy tale
So you consider your belief system and habits as a result of that belief system a "fairy tale"?
They condemn respect for people of faith.
All people are people of faith, bar none.
There are something like 4000 gods and countless religions.
4001 when you include atheism.
Religious beliefs are not sacred cows...
You think not? Challenge someones religion and see what happens.
your denial of theistic socialism and secular humanism as a weapon disguised as your religious beliefs,
It takes much more than a few words to know its a disguise.
There are plenty to choose from and IM(atheist)O, they're all equal and should have equal rights.
If you believe the constitution that all religions have equal rights.
Not really, atheists just don’t believe God makes sense and want to be left alone
Ive known several evangelistic atheists pounding the streets preaching atheism.
- is phony ... a protection provided by common law.
religion is a 'reserved right' in which the agreement between the guv and the people was memorialized om the BoR.
 
Its impossible to subordinate something everyone has.
History says otherwise.

"...It is especially easy for us to observe socialism's hostility to religion, for this is inherent, with few exceptions, in all contemporary socialist states and doctrines. Only rarely is the abolition of religion legislated, as it was in Albania. But the actions of other socialist states leave no doubt that they are all governed by this very principle and that only external difficulties have prevented its complete implementation. This same principle has been repeatedly proclaimed in socialist doctrines, beginning with the end of the seventeenth century. Sixteenth- and seventeenth-century doctrines are imbued with cold skeptical and ironic attitudes toward religion. If not consciously, then "objectively," they prepared humanity for the convergence of socialist ideology and militant atheism that took place at the end of the seventeenth century and during the course of the eighteenth. The heretical movements of the Middle Ages were religious in character, but those in which socialist tendencies were especially pronounced were the ones that were irrevocably opposed to the actual religion professed by the majority at the time. Calls to assassinate the Pope and to annihilate all monks and priests run like a red thread through the history of these movements. Their hatred for the basic symbols of Christianity--the cross and the church--is very striking. We encounter the burning of crosses and the profanation of churches from the first centuries of Christianity right up to the present day..."


Throughout our nation's history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people's allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before putting their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation's Christian heritage.
Dr. Ron Paul
 
Atheists are right
About what? That it’s ok to subordinate religion?


Can you give examples of that please?

Oh wait - You mean like christians attacking Muslims and others who don't share their beliefs? That's what you mean, isn't it.
Sure. I can give you examples but it's a long read.


Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
.
faith in what ... explain yourself.
God
.
you mean yourself ... that's your faith, try explaining what you are saying.
No. God. Militant atheists condemn respect for people who believe in God and attempt to subordinate their worship of God.
Not really, atheists just don’t believe God makes sense and want to be left alone
Sure. That's true for the vast majority of atheists. I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about the ones who are on a mission to subordinate religion.
Read this Religion Board on USMB.
Find me a thread where an Atheist started it to debunk religion.
What you will find is thread after thread started by Bible Thumpers to attack atheism
 
Atheists are right
About what? That it’s ok to subordinate religion?


Can you give examples of that please?

Oh wait - You mean like christians attacking Muslims and others who don't share their beliefs? That's what you mean, isn't it.
Sure. I can give you examples but it's a long read.


Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
.
faith in what ... explain yourself.
God
.
you mean yourself ... that's your faith, try explaining what you are saying.
No. God. Militant atheists condemn respect for people who believe in God and attempt to subordinate their worship of God.
Not really, atheists just don’t believe God makes sense and want to be left alone
Sure. That's true for the vast majority of atheists. I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about the ones who are on a mission to subordinate religion.
Read this Religion Board on USMB.
Find me a thread where an Atheist started it to debunk religion.
What you will find is thread after thread started by Bible Thumpers to attack atheism
Seriously? I post here all the time. The majority of their posts are intended to be disrespectful.

So why is it so bad for me to say what it is?
 
Atheists are right
About what? That it’s ok to subordinate religion?


Can you give examples of that please?

Oh wait - You mean like christians attacking Muslims and others who don't share their beliefs? That's what you mean, isn't it.
Sure. I can give you examples but it's a long read.


Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
Yes, militant atheists condemning respect for people of faith would be exactly like that.
.
faith in what ... explain yourself.
God
.
you mean yourself ... that's your faith, try explaining what you are saying.
No. God. Militant atheists condemn respect for people who believe in God and attempt to subordinate their worship of God.
Not really, atheists just don’t believe God makes sense and want to be left alone
Sure. That's true for the vast majority of atheists. I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about the ones who are on a mission to subordinate religion.
Read this Religion Board on USMB.
Find me a thread where an Atheist started it to debunk religion.
What you will find is thread after thread started by Bible Thumpers to attack atheism
Seriously? I post here all the time. The majority of their posts are intended to be disrespectful.

So why is it so bad for me to say what it is?
Atheists on this board respond to attacks and there are a lot of them.
If you can’t stand the response, don’t start the thread
 
Apparently you are ignorant of the history.
Most people are.
You have accepted a narrative that was pleasing to your ears but have never really investigated it.
Most people do.
Adolf Hitler in that regard.
That is not an accurate representation of hitler.
Tell me the liberty defending founders didn't hypocritically enable slavery in exchange for constitutional ratification. Go on, tell me that.
How?
they did take parallel steps to end slavery.
They took steps to end economic disparity, not end slavery.
They negotiated a date to end the importation of slavery
Agreed.
they halted the expansion of slavery by writing laws.
Disagree, 14th amendment.
So when you label them as hypocritical, that isn't really correct.
Depends on the issue, some yes others no.
the Founding Fathers believed that slavery was wrong
No, the north had and kept their slaves after the civil war. Jefferson I think is one of them.
I can't imagine why any American would disparage the Founding fathers like you did.
They were constitutors, they founded nothing what so ever, it was mostly a copy paste job direct out of the uk.
 
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"...It is especially easy for us to observe socialism's hostility to religion, for this is inherent, with few exceptions, in all contemporary socialist states and doctrines.
contemporary socialism typically has an underlying 'ism' at its core, we know as 'atheism', and of course many neoatheists of today consider themselves exempt from the label religious, though nothing could be farther from the truth however.
 
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