Current COVID-19 Mortality Rate: 1.35%

[Zoom-boing]

Yes, it does have a very low mortality rate.

The flu, which Trump and the Hive Mind stupidly compare to COVID-19, has a mortality rate of 0.1%.

1.35% is 13.5 times more fatal than the flu.

So the next time you hear a Trumptard talk about the umpteen thousand people who die each year from the flu, multiply their number by 13.5, and that will explain why we should have reacted much more quickly and with greater force to this "hoax".

No one called it a hoax stop lying it only harms your case....

Trump called it a Democrat hoax. Then blew it off and went golfing.

What a tard!

He did not tard...stop lying or no one will ever take you seriously here again....you have been lying for two weeks now....

Yes, he did. :28 in:



And Fox News did too.

.

Load of crap. Edited to fit your narrative. smdh

 

[DrLove]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Yep, that makes it 13.5 times deadlier than the flu.

The experts like Doc Fauci predicted 10 times more deadly and my guess was 1.5% or 15 times.

But no, I won't claim (as Trump undoubtedly does) to be smarter than Fauci.

 

[Rocko]

The death rate will be higher in the next coming months as the hospitals won’t be able to take care of all the sick. Also ventilators are important, but for every ventilator you need a qualified hospital work to run it. That’s why the shortage of PPE is so important. Hospital workers can’t afford to get sick.

There is no reason to think the hospitals will not be able to care for the sick. Even in New York, the epicenter of the infection in the US, with Cuomo screaming, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, arrangements have been made to have Navy hospital ships take care of covid19 patients to allow the hospitals to care for other patents, and if even more beds are needed arrangements have been made to refit cruise ships to share the burden.

It is highly unlikely we will run out of health care workers. Elective procedures are being deferred until the crisis is over and that will free up many health workers to treat covid19 patients. In addition, hospitals are contacting former workers and asking them to return for the duration of the crisis. While some doctors, nurses, technicians will become ill, nearly all of them will survive and be back at work within a few weeks, this time with an immunity to the virus. This is a time to be cautious, but not to panic.

You’re wrong. This will be a catastrophe. I’m not panicking. I’m being realistic about the situation

 

[Blues Man]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

you don't actually know the number of total cases all you know is the number of positive test results.

That's the morality rate among confirmed cases and at this point that's be best estimate we have of how dangerous the virus is.

And it's just a guess.

And you'll notice in the OP he said TOTAL cases not total positive test results

Total cases and positive test results are the same thing. The term, positive test result, means the CDC has confirmed the individual has the virus. Until the CDC does this, the term, presumed positive test result, is used. In any case, a mortality rate of 1.35% is very good compared to other developed nations of any size.

No not really.

total cases include people who had the virus, recovered and never got tested

Nope.

yes.

Would you say the total number of people in the US are only the number of registered voters, or only the number of people over 30 years old?

No you wouldn't

well maybe you would

The same metrics are used to determine the mortality for all diseases, idiot. You are just parroting desperate talking points from the same propagandists who told you this virus was a hoax.

and they are still wrong

Sorry, but I trust the science more than a dipshit on a forum.

There has to be a common metric. Not some imaginary bullshit.

The common metric says the flu has a mortality rate of 0.1%, and right now the mortality rate for COVID-19 in the US is thirteen and a half times higher.

Period.

So just ignore the fact that every single person who walks into any DR's office can get a rapid flu test but only some people meet the threshold for a corona test for which they have to drive to some testing center with a prescription to get tested.

This is remedial analytical thinking. When nearly 100% of people with even the mildest symptoms of the flu are tested and a smaller percentage of people with only the most severe corona symptoms are getting tested the mortality rates calculated for the latter will be less accurate in direct proportion to the difference in percentage of the number of tests performed.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

you don't actually know the number of total cases all you know is the number of positive test results.

That's the morality rate among confirmed cases and at this point that's be best estimate we have of how dangerous the virus is.

And it's just a guess.

And you'll notice in the OP he said TOTAL cases not total positive test results

Total cases and positive test results are the same thing. The term, positive test result, means the CDC has confirmed the individual has the virus. Until the CDC does this, the term, presumed positive test result, is used. In any case, a mortality rate of 1.35% is very good compared to other developed nations of any size.

No not really.

total cases include people who had the virus, recovered and never got tested

Ok, but that's unknowable so the best estimate we have of how dangerous the virus is the % of confirmed cases that die. Some time in the future, epidemiologists will figure out a way to estimate how many people had he virus and were not recorded among confirmed cases, but for now the mortality rate of confirmed cases is the best estimate we have to go by.

 

[Blues Man]

Yes, it does have a very low mortality rate.

The flu, which Trump and the Hive Mind stupidly compare to COVID-19, has a mortality rate of 0.1%.

1.35% is 13.5 times more fatal than the flu.

So the next time you hear a Trumptard talk about the umpteen thousand people who die each year from the flu, multiply their number by 13.5, and that will explain why we should have reacted much more quickly and with greater force to this "hoax".

OK just ignore that you are incorrectly stating that positive test results are equal to the number of infections

Note!

We do not test everyone for the flu either, yet we have a 0.07% mortality rate....

How'd we get that rate for the Flu without knowing all who tested positive for the Flu?

We never tested the whole country for the flu?

The actuaries and scientists are guessing on that too, just like they are taking educated guesses based on the numbers they do know on this virus.

We test far more people for flu as I said before every Dr's office, hospital and urgent care facility will test people who come in with even mild flu symptoms

We are only testing people with the most severe corona symptoms so the two mortality rates cannot be considered equally correct

 

[DrLove]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Things are moving so fast, it's now up to 1.37% of confirmed cases, but to put things in perspective, it is among the lowest rates among developed countries of any size.

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics

www.realclearpolitics.com

Hopefully you realize how many people are in ICU's who will ultimately die and that we're a month behind Italy.

No, you don't ... Never mind

 

[Siete]

Yes, it does have a very low mortality rate.

The flu, which Trump and the Hive Mind stupidly compare to COVID-19, has a mortality rate of 0.1%.

1.35% is 13.5 times more fatal than the flu.

So the next time you hear a Trumptard talk about the umpteen thousand people who die each year from the flu, multiply their number by 13.5, and that will explain why we should have reacted much more quickly and with greater force to this "hoax".

No one called it a hoax stop lying it only harms your case....

Trump called it a Democrat hoax. Then blew it off and went golfing.

What a tard!

He did not tard...stop lying or no one will ever take you seriously here again....you have been lying for two weeks now....

Yes, he did. :28 in:



And Fox News did too.

.

You conveniently missed the most important part....the beginning when he said the democrats are politicizing the corona virus...he never called the virus a hoax only the politicization of it....everything the dems do is a hoax....they are the hoax party....

HE DAMN SURE DID

No he didn't....watch the video dummy....

One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it.’ They tried the impeachment hoax,” said Trump. “And this is their new hoax.”

BITE ME

 

[depotoo]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Since we're pretty much refusing to test anyone unless they're so seriously ill that they need immediate medical care, those numbers are skewed. We should wait on all these numbers. We haven't done enough testing to have a clue.

They stated yesterday here in the drive through testing medical workers as well as anyone 65 or older that want it will be tested, along with any that have the criteria for it.

 

[Rambunctious]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

you don't actually know the number of total cases all you know is the number of positive test results.

That's the morality rate among confirmed cases and at this point that's be best estimate we have of how dangerous the virus is.

And it's just a guess.

And you'll notice in the OP he said TOTAL cases not total positive test results

Total cases and positive test results are the same thing. The term, positive test result, means the CDC has confirmed the individual has the virus. Until the CDC does this, the term, presumed positive test result, is used. In any case, a mortality rate of 1.35% is very good compared to other developed nations of any size.

No not really.

total cases include people who had the virus, recovered and never got tested

Nope.

yes.

Would you say the total number of people in the US are only the number of registered voters, or only the number of people over 30 years old?

No you wouldn't

well maybe you would

The same metrics are used to determine the mortality for all diseases, idiot. You are just parroting desperate talking points from the same propagandists who told you this virus was a hoax.

and they are still wrong

Sorry, but I trust the science more than a dipshit on a forum.

There has to be a common metric. Not some imaginary bullshit.

The common metric says the flu has a mortality rate of 0.1%, and right now the mortality rate for COVID-19 in the US is thirteen and a half times higher.

Period.

So just ignore the fact that every single person who walks into any DR's office can get a rapid flu test but only some people meet the threshold for a corona test for which they have to drive to some testing center with a prescription to get tested.

This is remedial analytical thinking. When nearly 100% of people with even the mildest symptoms of the flu are tested and a smaller percentage of people with only the most severe corona symptoms are getting tested the mortality rates calculated for the latter will be less accurate in direct proportion to the difference in percentage of the number of tests performed.

It takes months to develop a good test and then it gets modified several times...we started the seasonal flu test a year ago....the corona test needed time to configure...and produce....I say we did a hell of a job if you ask me....

 

[toomuchtime_]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

you don't actually know the number of total cases all you know is the number of positive test results.

That's the morality rate among confirmed cases and at this point that's be best estimate we have of how dangerous the virus is.

And it's just a guess.

And you'll notice in the OP he said TOTAL cases not total positive test results

Total cases and positive test results are the same thing. The term, positive test result, means the CDC has confirmed the individual has the virus. Until the CDC does this, the term, presumed positive test result, is used. In any case, a mortality rate of 1.35% is very good compared to other developed nations of any size.

No not really.

total cases include people who had the virus, recovered and never got tested

Nope.

yes.

Would you say the total number of people in the US are only the number of registered voters, or only the number of people over 30 years old?

No you wouldn't

well maybe you would

The same metrics are used to determine the mortality for all diseases, idiot. You are just parroting desperate talking points from the same propagandists who told you this virus was a hoax.

and they are still wrong

Sorry, but I trust the science more than a dipshit on a forum.

There has to be a common metric. Not some imaginary bullshit.

The common metric says the flu has a mortality rate of 0.1%, and right now the mortality rate for COVID-19 in the US is thirteen and a half times higher.

Period.

One thing we can all agree on is that looking at this thread, this is a terrible, terrible format for an extended discussion.

 

[Blues Man]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

you don't actually know the number of total cases all you know is the number of positive test results.

That's the morality rate among confirmed cases and at this point that's be best estimate we have of how dangerous the virus is.

And it's just a guess.

And you'll notice in the OP he said TOTAL cases not total positive test results

Total cases and positive test results are the same thing. The term, positive test result, means the CDC has confirmed the individual has the virus. Until the CDC does this, the term, presumed positive test result, is used. In any case, a mortality rate of 1.35% is very good compared to other developed nations of any size.

No not really.

total cases include people who had the virus, recovered and never got tested

Ok, but that's unknowable so the best estimate we have of how dangerous the virus is the % of confirmed cases that die. Some time in the future, epidemiologists will figure out a way to estimate how many people had he virus and were not recorded among confirmed cases, but for now the mortality rate of confirmed cases is the best estimate we have to go by.

until we test for corona with at he same frequency we test for flu the two mortality rates cannot be considered equally valid

but no one will even acknowledge this glaring difference.

I guess it would actually lessen the panic and we can't have that can we?

 

[toomuchtime_]

The death rate will be higher in the next coming months as the hospitals won’t be able to take care of all the sick. Also ventilators are important, but for every ventilator you need a qualified hospital work to run it. That’s why the shortage of PPE is so important. Hospital workers can’t afford to get sick.

There is no reason to think the hospitals will not be able to care for the sick. Even in New York, the epicenter of the infection in the US, with Cuomo screaming, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, arrangements have been made to have Navy hospital ships take care of covid19 patients to allow the hospitals to care for other patents, and if even more beds are needed arrangements have been made to refit cruise ships to share the burden.

It is highly unlikely we will run out of health care workers. Elective procedures are being deferred until the crisis is over and that will free up many health workers to treat covid19 patients. In addition, hospitals are contacting former workers and asking them to return for the duration of the crisis. While some doctors, nurses, technicians will become ill, nearly all of them will survive and be back at work within a few weeks, this time with an immunity to the virus. This is a time to be cautious, but not to panic.

You’re wrong. This will be a catastrophe. I’m not panicking. I’m being realistic about the situation

No, you are panicking. There is no hard evidence to support your fears.

 

[depotoo]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Things are moving so fast, it's now up to 1.37% of confirmed cases, but to put things in perspective, it is among the lowest rates among developed countries of any size.

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics

www.realclearpolitics.com

Hopefully you realize how many people are in ICU's who will ultimately die and that we're a month behind Italy.

No, you don't ... Never mind

Italy diagnosed their first case the same day we did.

 

[Rambunctious]

“And this is their new hoax.”

Meaning the democunt politicization of this horrible virus....get it right liar....

 

[Blues Man]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

you don't actually know the number of total cases all you know is the number of positive test results.

That's the morality rate among confirmed cases and at this point that's be best estimate we have of how dangerous the virus is.

And it's just a guess.

And you'll notice in the OP he said TOTAL cases not total positive test results

Total cases and positive test results are the same thing. The term, positive test result, means the CDC has confirmed the individual has the virus. Until the CDC does this, the term, presumed positive test result, is used. In any case, a mortality rate of 1.35% is very good compared to other developed nations of any size.

No not really.

total cases include people who had the virus, recovered and never got tested

Nope.

yes.

Would you say the total number of people in the US are only the number of registered voters, or only the number of people over 30 years old?

No you wouldn't

well maybe you would

The same metrics are used to determine the mortality for all diseases, idiot. You are just parroting desperate talking points from the same propagandists who told you this virus was a hoax.

and they are still wrong

Sorry, but I trust the science more than a dipshit on a forum.

There has to be a common metric. Not some imaginary bullshit.

The common metric says the flu has a mortality rate of 0.1%, and right now the mortality rate for COVID-19 in the US is thirteen and a half times higher.

Period.

So just ignore the fact that every single person who walks into any DR's office can get a rapid flu test but only some people meet the threshold for a corona test for which they have to drive to some testing center with a prescription to get tested.

This is remedial analytical thinking. When nearly 100% of people with even the mildest symptoms of the flu are tested and a smaller percentage of people with only the most severe corona symptoms are getting tested the mortality rates calculated for the latter will be less accurate in direct proportion to the difference in percentage of the number of tests performed.

It takes months to develop a good test and then it gets modified several times...we started the seasonal flu test a year ago....the corona test needed time to configure...and produce....I say we did a hell of a job if you ask me....

tests for corona virus have existed for years

 

[Blues Man]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Since we're pretty much refusing to test anyone unless they're so seriously ill that they need immediate medical care, those numbers are skewed. We should wait on all these numbers. We haven't done enough testing to have a clue.

They stated yesterday here in the drive through testing medical workers as well as anyone 65 or older that want it will be tested, along with any that have the criteria for it.

that is still a smaller number than it needs to be to compare mortality rates of corona to the flu

 

[DrLove]

Total deaths/Total cases = 1.35% mortality rate in the US.

This is from the CDC site TODAY:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.

View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

Things are moving so fast, it's now up to 1.37% of confirmed cases, but to put things in perspective, it is among the lowest rates among developed countries of any size.

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics

www.realclearpolitics.com

Hopefully you realize how many people are in ICU's who will ultimately die and that we're a month behind Italy.

No, you don't ... Never mind

Italy diagnosed their first case they same day we did.

Okay, you go with that.

Italy's Coronavirus Nightmare Could Happen in U.S. Within Days or Weeks, Ex-CDC Chief Says

Whether the U.S. health care system buckles like Italy’s “really depends on how vigorously and promptly we do social distancing,” said a former CDC chief.

theintercept.com

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Comforting news to the 737 family members.

Great, out of context reply.

As was noted in a place where we rationally discuss numbers, 105 children have died of the flu.

If we locked down the country every winter, we'd probably reduce that too (as well as car accidents).

Keep trying. You are pathetic.

 

[Zander]

Yes, it does have a very low mortality rate.

The flu, which Trump and the Hive Mind stupidly compare to COVID-19, has a mortality rate of 0.1%.

1.35% is 13.5 times more fatal than the flu.

So the next time you hear a Trumptard talk about the umpteen thousand people who die each year from the flu, multiply their number by 13.5, and that will explain why we should have reacted much more quickly and with greater force to this "hoax".

You are a logic challenged jackass. Only the worst cases are being tested. There are potentially tens of million of people infected in the USA that do not have any symptoms or only very mild symptoms. Every time I think you've scraped bottom on the stupidity scale, you go lower.