CRT opposition based on political expediency not actual factual history

[otto105]

Yeah, because no other country ever abused human rights.

What a buffoon.

Are other countries conservatives scared of CRT too?

 

[bripat9643]

Are other countries conservatives scared of CRT too?

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together is afraid of it, just as they are afraid to consume strychnine.

 

[otto105]

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together is afraid of it, just as they are afraid to consume strychnine.

African-American people scare you don't they.

How many other countries had a kkk cult?

 

[Thunderbird]

I want to discuss an issue that came up in a different thread. I think it is worth a thread of its own.

On the current events board, there is a thread about a book in which it is claimed that trump praised Hitler as having done good things.

I was a bit shocked to read many board members agreeing with this and it got me thinking about the teaching,or proposed teaching, of CRT in American schools.

I have no wish to go into the boring detail of CRT but my understanding is that it is a revisionist view of American history that shows a darker view of America than most people grew up with.

It has caused a great deal of upset amongst people who are actually quite happy with their history just the way it is. But that is a political stance and not one that takes account of actual history. And that seems to be the same attitude that I see when it comes to judging Hitler.

It means that CRT will not be judged through any historical or academic perspective. It will be judged purely on its perceived political stance and its possible impact on the youngsters who are taught it.

There is a fear that kids will grow to hate their country and for that reason the truth must be suppressed. But this is covered up in ignorant bluster because to admit that would be admitting that the US should come clean on its history.

Surely honesty is the best policy ? There isnt a country on earth that has not got some episodes that they would rather not discuss. I know all about that. People who can find the good in Hitler should not dictate the education of the kids.


Teachers' union president says CRT is NOT being taught in schools

We should teach about slavery. For example:

BENIN OFFICIALS APOLOGIZE FOR ROLE IN U.S. SLAVE TRADE

Officials from the West African nation Benin apologized during a ceremony here for their country’s role in once selling fellow Africans by the millions to white slave traders. The group is ma…

www.chicagotribune.com

10 Black Slaveowners That Will Tear Apart Historical Perception – Page 9 – History Collection

In the year 1830, at the height of the transatlantic slave trade, there were an estimated two million people enslaved in the United States. In the vast majority

historycollection.com

R. Austen, "African Enslavement in History of Blacks and Jews"

www.writing.upenn.edu

Research Suggests White Slavery Was Much More Common

Editor's note (3/21/20): For an update on this story, visit: Why is a 16-year-old book on slavery so popular now? A new study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780 – a far greater number than had ever been...

news.osu.edu

This is interesting as well: A look at Dahomey’s gory history of human sacrifices on a large scale

We should also teach about Native Americans:

1842 Slave Revolt in the Cherokee Nation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Exclusive: Ancient Mass Child Sacrifice in Peru May Be World's Largest

More than 140 children were ritually killed in a single event in Peru more than 500 years ago. What could possibly have been the reason?

www.nationalgeographic.com

Aztec Human Sacrifice

Aztec Human Sacrifice: Aztec Human Sacrifice Rituals; Aztec Human Sacrifice Methods; Tribute & Aztec Human Sacrifice; Aztec Human Sacrifice Images, History & Facts.

aztecsandtenochtitlan.com

 

[otto105]

We should teach about slavery. For example:

BENIN OFFICIALS APOLOGIZE FOR ROLE IN U.S. SLAVE TRADE

Officials from the West African nation Benin apologized during a ceremony here for their country’s role in once selling fellow Africans by the millions to white slave traders. The group is ma…

www.chicagotribune.com

10 Black Slaveowners That Will Tear Apart Historical Perception – Page 9 – History Collection

In the year 1830, at the height of the transatlantic slave trade, there were an estimated two million people enslaved in the United States. In the vast majority

historycollection.com

R. Austen, "African Enslavement in History of Blacks and Jews"

www.writing.upenn.edu

Research Suggests White Slavery Was Much More Common

Editor's note (3/21/20): For an update on this story, visit: Why is a 16-year-old book on slavery so popular now? A new study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780 – a far greater number than had ever been...

news.osu.edu

We should also teach about Native Americans:

1842 Slave Revolt in the Cherokee Nation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Exclusive: Ancient Mass Child Sacrifice in Peru May Be World's Largest

More than 140 children were ritually killed in a single event in Peru more than 500 years ago. What could possibly have been the reason?

www.nationalgeographic.com

Aztec Human Sacrifice

Aztec Human Sacrifice: Aztec Human Sacrifice Rituals; Aztec Human Sacrifice Methods; Tribute & Aztec Human Sacrifice; Aztec Human Sacrifice Images, History & Facts.

aztecsandtenochtitlan.com

I'm sure that balances the 200+ years of legal slavery in the US.

 

[Nostra]

I'm sure that balances the 200+ years of legal slavery in the US.

Any other countries have slaves during that period?

 

[otto105]

Any other countries have slaves during that period?

So, it's okay if everyone else is doing it.

Well, then we should all learn about it.

 

[Thunderbird]

I'm sure that balances the 200+ years of legal slavery in the US.

Well not quite. Africans have profited off of and owned slaves for many centuries. Much longer than the 89 years slavery existed in the USA.

Zanzibar Slavery | Zanzibar Slave Tour | Slavery History Zanzibar

Zanzibar Anglican Church, the Prison Island, Arab Fort & Mangapwani Slave chambers are just few of the reminders of the Slavery in Zanzibar.

www.zanzibarpackage.com

 

[Thunderbird]

So, it's okay if everyone else is doing it.

Well, then we should all learn about it.

Should we only remember white American slave holders and forget about slavery practiced by others?

 

[Thunderbird]

More history that shouldn't be ignored:

David Sassoon & Co. - Wikipedia.

Opinion | Mao's Great Leap to Famine (Published 2010)

Party archives in China are beginning to reveal the full horror of the great famine of 1958-1962.

www.nytimes.com

Stalin's Jews

We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish

www.ynetnews.com

Mengistu found guilty of Ethiopian genocide

Ethiopia's former dictator, Mengistu Haile Mariam, who killed thousands of political opponents and ignored a famine which killed one million people, has been found guilty of genocide in an Ethiopian court.

www.independent.co.uk

Lenin Paints Himself Black With His Own Words (Published 1996)

Richard Bernstein reviews book The Unknown Lenin: From the Secret Archive, edited by Richard Pipes; Pipes photo (S)

www.nytimes.com

Former Abortionist Bernard Nathanson Exposes Lies of American Pro-Abortion Movement - LifeSite

"We were guilty of massive deception" says Nathanson about abortion industry

www.lifesitenews.com

 

[Correll]

I want to discuss an issue that came up in a different thread. I think it is worth a thread of its own.

On the current events board, there is a thread about a book in which it is claimed that trump praised Hitler as having done good things.

I was a bit shocked to read many board members agreeing with this and it got me thinking about the teaching,or proposed teaching, of CRT in American schools.

I have no wish to go into the boring detail of CRT but my understanding is that it is a revisionist view of American history that shows a darker view of America than most people grew up with.

It has caused a great deal of upset amongst people who are actually quite happy with their history just the way it is. But that is a political stance and not one that takes account of actual history. And that seems to be the same attitude that I see when it comes to judging Hitler.

It means that CRT will not be judged through any historical or academic perspective. It will be judged purely on its perceived political stance and its possible impact on the youngsters who are taught it.

There is a fear that kids will grow to hate their country and for that reason the truth must be suppressed. But this is covered up in ignorant bluster because to admit that would be admitting that the US should come clean on its history.

Surely honesty is the best policy ? There isnt a country on earth that has not got some episodes that they would rather not discuss. I know all about that. People who can find the good in Hitler should not dictate the education of the kids.


Teachers' union president says CRT is NOT being taught in schools

CRT is not accurate. You are full of shit.

 

[westwall]

So, it's okay if everyone else is doing it.

Well, then we should all learn about it.

Shit, the blacks in Africa STILL practice slavery.

Go make them stop.

 

[jc456]

Any other countries have slaves during that period?

uhhhhhhhhhh AFrica? England? Australia? China? Soviet Union?

 

[jc456]

CRT is not accurate. You are full of shit.

it's made up.

 

[otto105]

Shit, the blacks in Africa STILL practice slavery.

Go make them stop.

As I just posted, I don’t do the conservative lemming thing.

 

[westwall]

As I just posted, I don’t do the conservative lemming thing.

No, you do the progressive lemming thing.

Because you ARE a lemming.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

CRT is not about history. It is indoctrination.
From what I have seen, actual history is very insignificant.

CRT is no more about history than Nazi anti Semitic propaganda was about anthropology.

Both CRT and Nazism are brainwashing programs that dehumanize racial and ethnic groups
and poison young minds before they have the facilities and decision making capabilities to
fight off hate speech and poisonous dogmatic teachings instilled in impressionable minds.

CRT says all whites are racist and all blacks are helpless victims. Look who defends it in our schools
to find out who is an enemy of this nation, and humanity in general.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

People who can find the good in Hitler should not dictate the education of the kids.

I went all through the public education system in this nation and on to college.
How about you?

And I know for a fact Hitler AND our racist slave holding past were both seen as giant
moral failings and evil things. Slavery for us and Hitler for Germany and the world that allowed him
to rise to power and failed to oppose him.

Who found the good in Hitler? And why would you stupidly believe they are teaching our children?
Your ignorance is stunning.

 

[Lesh]

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together is afraid of it, just as they are afraid to consume strychnine.

Afraid of what?

A theory that's been floating around the upper reaches of academia and law schools for decades? Something that remains there?

That is NOT being taught in public schools?

 

[Correll]

Afraid of what?

A theory that's been floating around the upper reaches of academia and law schools for decades? Something that remains there?

That is NOT being taught in public schools?

YOU are lying.