Couple who pulled guns on Black mother and daughters charged with felony assault

[Crepitus]

It will get worse. And worse. The Prog dominated media/entertainers/politicians propagandists need to start backing off.

No, violent tRumplings need their weapons confiscated.

Campaign on how you want to introduce Hitler's gun control laws here in the USA

Why? I don't want to do that. I want to take them away from obviously unstable people like tRump supporters.

 

[Crepitus]

almost certainly illegal thing to do.

Not illegal. You assume the woman was not in fear for her her life or safety or that of her husbands. Her perception is all that matters .

Well that's a lie.

 

[Billy_Bob]

“The Oakland County Prosecutor's Office announced Thursday that the Wuestenbergs were charged with felonious assault.” ibid

If convicted, they become prohibited persons – no more concealed carry license.

the charges will get tossed .

I'm beginning to think so too.

I listen to Detroit talk radio WJR, and the sheriff always makes himself available.

I have no doubt he'll be on tomorrow.

He and his officers demonstrated biases as the videos demonstrated what occurred and why reasonable people feared for their life

??? seems to me that you are getting into murky waters. Reasonable vs not can be a matter of
opinion -------or even which way the political wind blows

in this case only the womans perspective is relevant.

 

[Billy_Bob]

almost certainly illegal thing to do.

Not illegal. You assume the woman was not in fear for her her life or safety or that of her husbands. Her perception is all that matters .

Well that's a lie.

says a moron lib. where is your evidence?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

So is it just my imagination or does the trend seem to be white people pulling guns on black people and attempting to force them to comply with their demands because I can't recall any stories about black people pulling guns on white people solely to attempt to get them to do something/stop doing something. And for the records, I'm not talking about armed robbery or anything else in that category.

I've heard some firearm instructors say that if you pull you weapon but don't use it or have to use it to defend yourself, then there was probably no threat which required an armed response to begin with. I don't fully agree with that stance because sometimes the mere sight of the weapon de-escalates the situation, but not in the last couple of these types of stories have I seen it do so. Pulling a firearm on someone for no good reason or as an attempt to intimidate can piss some people off and cause then to go on the attack because they were just threated with a deadly weapon.

If it keeps happening, then as long as the people who unlawfully pointed a weapon at another get charged and convicted, then I guess our laws are working as designed, correct?

Do you think, that pointing a weapon at a criminal, illegally blocking your way is a crime?

Someone who is blocking your way isn't a criminal.

Get a grip.

Someone who pulls a weapon and threatens a person IS a criminal.

Which is why that criminal woman and the criminal man with her was arrested and if convicted will go to prison.

While the women they pulled the weapon on who aren't criminals, are back home enjoying their lives.

See the difference?

Blocking someone's way and restricting their movement is legally kidnapping.

 

[Billy_Bob]

So is it just my imagination or does the trend seem to be white people pulling guns on black people and attempting to force them to comply with their demands because I can't recall any stories about black people pulling guns on white people solely to attempt to get them to do something/stop doing something. And for the records, I'm not talking about armed robbery or anything else in that category.

I've heard some firearm instructors say that if you pull you weapon but don't use it or have to use it to defend yourself, then there was probably no threat which required an armed response to begin with. I don't fully agree with that stance because sometimes the mere sight of the weapon de-escalates the situation, but not in the last couple of these types of stories have I seen it do so. Pulling a firearm on someone for no good reason or as an attempt to intimidate can piss some people off and cause then to go on the attack because they were just threated with a deadly weapon.

If it keeps happening, then as long as the people who unlawfully pointed a weapon at another get charged and convicted, then I guess our laws are working as designed, correct?

Do you think, that pointing a weapon at a criminal, illegally blocking your way is a crime?

Someone who is blocking your way isn't a criminal.

Get a grip.

Someone who pulls a weapon and threatens a person IS a criminal.

Which is why that criminal woman and the criminal man with her was arrested and if convicted will go to prison.

While the women they pulled the weapon on who aren't criminals, are back home enjoying their lives.

See the difference?

Blocking someone's way and restricting their movement is legally kidnapping.

UNLAWFUL DETENTION ..

We have a winner !

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

So is it just my imagination or does the trend seem to be white people pulling guns on black people and attempting to force them to comply with their demands because I can't recall any stories about black people pulling guns on white people solely to attempt to get them to do something/stop doing something. And for the records, I'm not talking about armed robbery or anything else in that category.

I've heard some firearm instructors say that if you pull you weapon but don't use it or have to use it to defend yourself, then there was probably no threat which required an armed response to begin with. I don't fully agree with that stance because sometimes the mere sight of the weapon de-escalates the situation, but not in the last couple of these types of stories have I seen it do so. Pulling a firearm on someone for no good reason or as an attempt to intimidate can piss some people off and cause then to go on the attack because they were just threated with a deadly weapon.

If it keeps happening, then as long as the people who unlawfully pointed a weapon at another get charged and convicted, then I guess our laws are working as designed, correct?

Do you think, that pointing a weapon at a criminal, illegally blocking your way is a crime?

It doesn’t matter what anyone ‘thinks’ – as a fact of law pointing a gun at someone is felonious assault.

And the woman at whom the gun was pointed was not committing a criminal act.

I posted the law pertaining to this. You are WRONG. Give me a few minutes and I will do so again

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Media mentions skin color only when it fits the agenda.
Why did the black woman speak with the dialect of a southern illiterate even though they were in Michigan? I guess they were just visiting.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Ignore the crime the blacks perpetrated and then charge the whites for defending themselves. I'm thinking this sheriff was trying to apease left wing bigots and the BLM MOB.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Media mentions skin color only when it fits the agenda.
Why did the black woman speak with the dialect of a southern illiterate even though they were in Michigan? I guess they were just visiting.

Ignore the crime the blacks perpetrated and then charge the whites for defending themselves. I'm thinking this sheriff was trying to apease left wing bigots and the BLM MOB.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? I mean, a normal might start to wonder why facts and reality never align with his freakish fantasies.

 

[MarcATL]

The black women were using racial slurs

What slurs did they use?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Media mentions skin color only when it fits the agenda.
Why did the black woman speak with the dialect of a southern illiterate even though they were in Michigan? I guess they were just visiting.

Ignore the crime the blacks perpetrated and then charge the whites for defending themselves. I'm thinking this sheriff was trying to apease left wing bigots and the BLM MOB.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? I mean, a normal might start to wonder why facts and reality never align with his freakish fantasies.

You didn’t say anything in response to my post. Why did you quote it?

 

[Papageorgio]

So is it just my imagination or does the trend seem to be white people pulling guns on black people and attempting to force them to comply with their demands because I can't recall any stories about black people pulling guns on white people solely to attempt to get them to do something/stop doing something. And for the records, I'm not talking about armed robbery or anything else in that category.

I've heard some firearm instructors say that if you pull you weapon but don't use it or have to use it to defend yourself, then there was probably no threat which required an armed response to begin with. I don't fully agree with that stance because sometimes the mere sight of the weapon de-escalates the situation, but not in the last couple of these types of stories have I seen it do so. Pulling a firearm on someone for no good reason or as an attempt to intimidate can piss some people off and cause then to go on the attack because they were just threated with a deadly weapon.

If it keeps happening, then as long as the people who unlawfully pointed a weapon at another get charged and convicted, then I guess our laws are working as designed, correct?

Do you think, that pointing a weapon at a criminal, illegally blocking your way is a crime?

It doesn’t matter what anyone ‘thinks’ – as a fact of law pointing a gun at someone is felonious assault.

And the woman at whom the gun was pointed was not committing a criminal act.

I get the felonious assault, however she stood behind their vehicle and refused to let them leave. Isn’t detaining someone against their will a crime? Seems to me she helped escalate the situation, doesn’t make pulling a gun on someone justified, I see another crime as well.

 

[Silver Cat]

So is it just my imagination or does the trend seem to be white people pulling guns on black people and attempting to force them to comply with their demands because I can't recall any stories about black people pulling guns on white people solely to attempt to get them to do something/stop doing something. And for the records, I'm not talking about armed robbery or anything else in that category.

I've heard some firearm instructors say that if you pull you weapon but don't use it or have to use it to defend yourself, then there was probably no threat which required an armed response to begin with. I don't fully agree with that stance because sometimes the mere sight of the weapon de-escalates the situation, but not in the last couple of these types of stories have I seen it do so. Pulling a firearm on someone for no good reason or as an attempt to intimidate can piss some people off and cause then to go on the attack because they were just threated with a deadly weapon.

If it keeps happening, then as long as the people who unlawfully pointed a weapon at another get charged and convicted, then I guess our laws are working as designed, correct?

Do you think, that pointing a weapon at a criminal, illegally blocking your way is a crime?

It doesn’t matter what anyone ‘thinks’ – as a fact of law pointing a gun at someone is felonious assault.

And the woman at whom the gun was pointed was not committing a criminal act.

The illegal blocking someone movements is a crime. Protection of someones freedom of movement is not a crime.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

SELF-DEFENSE ACT (EXCERPT)
Act 309 of 2006

780.972 Use of deadly force by individual not engaged in commission of crime; conditions.
Sec. 2.

(1) An individual who has not or is not engaged in the commission of a crime at the time he or she uses deadly force may use deadly force against another individual anywhere he or she has the legal right to be with no duty to retreat if either of the following applies:
(a) The individual honestly and reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the imminent death of or imminent great bodily harm to himself or herself or to another individual.
(b) The individual honestly and reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the imminent sexual assault of himself or herself or of another individual.
(2) An individual who has not or is not engaged in the commission of a crime at the time he or she uses force other than deadly force may use force other than deadly force against another individual anywhere he or she has the legal right to be with no duty to retreat if he or she honestly and reasonably believes that the use of that force is necessary to defend himself or herself or another individual from the imminent unlawful use of force by another individual.

 

[MarcATL]

Black lives can't matter until white lives matter

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Black lives can't matter until white lives matter

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Only quoting your black "logic"

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The only person in the video was white. How do they know the others weren’t wiggers?
That would be a hilarious sitcom.
Chillin’ With the Wiggers. About the misadventures a second generation family of whites who didn’t move away when blacks took over the neighborhood.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

The Sheriff isnt the problem here. This is the Oakland County prosecutor-- DEMOCRAT

Power Lawyers: Jessica Cooper

On Jan. 1, Jessica Cooper becomes Oakland Countys first female prosecutor and its first Democrat in that office in 36 years. She won the November election by 62,000 votes, more than a 10 percent margin, in a bitterly contested election against Republican State Rep. David Law, R-Commerce…

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[Godboy]

The black women were using racial slurs

What slurs did they use?

She said she was going to "beat his white ass". The black people were the only racists in this incident, which is par for the course i suppose.