Zone1 Could you be Jewish and not even know it?

Do you suspect that some of your ancestors may have been Jewish?

  • No

    Votes: 5 29.4%
  • Yes

    Votes: 9 52.9%
  • I am not certain but I would like to think so?

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Yes, if you include the lost ten tribes of Israel or Samaria.

    Votes: 2 11.8%

  • Total voters
    17
We are far from "extinct"

In an article in the Eighth Century Edition of the Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia on "The Anti Christ" that states that in the latter days, Jesus will come first and things will be going great but then the "Anti-Christ" will come and throw Jesus into hell and the veneration of Mary will cease and pretty much the whole world will begin to observe the weekly Jewish Sabbaths as well as the annual Jewish Holy Days.

This article of course fuelled anti-Semitic activity for the entire time period of the dark ages but it is interesting that ultimately this article comes to fit with the positive predictions in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and in the Law and in the Writings that all of the promises to Abraham will be fulfilled.

A friend of mine who graduated from Ambassador College had a friend who translated that article from the original Latin into English.

Roman Catholic theologians did not give this statement the amount of attention that it deserved to be given.

And he said to them, “O foolish men, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken!
[Luke 24:25]
 
In an article in the Eighth Century Edition of the Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia on "The Anti Christ" that states that in the latter days, Jesus will come first and things will be going great but then the "Anti-Christ" will come and throw Jesus into hell and the veneration of Mary will cease and pretty much the whole world will begin to observe the weekly Jewish Sabbaths as well as the annual Jewish Holy Days.

This article of course fuelled anti-Semitic activity for the entire time period of the dark ages but it is interesting that ultimately this article comes to fit with the positive predictions in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and in the Law and in the Writings that all of the promises to Abraham will be fulfilled.

A friend of mine who graduated from Ambassador College had a friend who translated that article from the original Latin into English.

Roman Catholic theologians did not give this statement the amount of attention that it deserved to be given.
I’m looking at your quote from Luke, saying that people are foolish to believe what the prophets have said.

That’s more anti-Jew bias from the NT. We are supposed to believe what one man (Jesus) said, but we are fools to believe multiple Jewish prophets?

Maybe the article you described was correct. Maybe what the Christians call the End Times will actually be when everyone is Jewish! Of course, I don’t believe in either ending, but still, I feel better believing the latter, so I’m going with that.
 
In an article in the Eighth Century Edition of the Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia on "The Anti Christ" that states that in the latter days, Jesus will come first and things will be going great but then the "Anti-Christ" will come and throw Jesus into hell and the veneration of Mary will cease and pretty much the whole world will begin to observe the weekly Jewish Sabbaths as well as the annual Jewish Holy Days.

This article of course fuelled anti-Semitic activity for the entire time period of the dark ages but it is interesting that ultimately this article comes to fit with the positive predictions in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and in the Law and in the Writings that all of the promises to Abraham will be fulfilled.

A friend of mine who graduated from Ambassador College had a friend who translated that article from the original Latin into English.

Roman Catholic theologians did not give this statement the amount of attention that it deserved to be given.
And P.S. Gd did not promise Abraham that the entire world would be Jewish. He promised that he would make of him a great nation, and his descendants would be numerous.

And that has proven true.
 
And P.S. Gd did not promise Abraham that the entire world would be Jewish. He promised that he would make of him a great nation, and his descendants would be numerous.

And that has proven true.

Good point!

And there is even an unusual prediction in there somewhere about other nations walking in the name of their "god" while Israel follows The LORD their G-d!
 
We are far from "extinct"
You have Jacob's DNA? Prove it.

What's more, you are not a temple dwelling Judean abiding Mosaic Law. You have no priesthood, no elements in the Holy of Holies, nothing that Jews had before AD 70.

Obviously you're not extinct. They are.
 

Look at the first 7

there are only (7) ...

a publicly recognized female jewish prophet not needing to be looked up their particular accomplishment ...

who is the first mother of jews, their notoriety for all other jewish mothers to be lineaged from.

is the earthly religion of judaism distinct from tribal affiliation or not - mother as for tribal affiliation being a jew.
 
there are only (7) ...

a publicly recognized female jewish prophet not needing to be looked up their particular accomplishment ...

who is the first mother of jews, their notoriety for all other jewish mothers to be lineaged from.

is the earthly religion of judaism distinct from tribal affiliation or not - mother as for tribal affiliation being a jew.
Near death experiencer Ms. Beverly Brodsky, in my opinion, is a modern Jewish Prophetess.

Her brush with death and then the mission in life that was explained to her is coming to pass. Ms. Brodsky is changing the way that the world views The Holocaust and Jewish history as people read her NDE account.

Ms. Brodsky may actually disagree with my thinking of her as a Prophetess but that is my belief at this time.

[Ms. Beverly Brodsky] :

3. Beverly Brodsky’s NDE Testimony​

Somehow an unexpected peace descended upon me. I found myself floating on the ceiling over the bed looking down at my unconscious body. I barely had time to realize the glorious strangeness of the situation – that I was me but not in my body – when I was joined by a radiant being bathed in a shimmering white glow. Like myself, this being flew but had no wings. I felt a reverent awe when I turned to him; this was no ordinary angel or spirit, but he had been sent to deliver me. Such love and gentleness emanated from his being that I felt that I was in the presence of the Messiah.

Whoever he was, his presence deepened my serenity and awakened a feeling of joy as I recognized my companion. Gently he took my hand and we flew right through the window. I felt no surprise at my ability to do this. In this wondrous presence, everything was as it should be.

Beneath us lay the beautiful Pacific Ocean … But my attention was now directed upward, where there was a large opening leading to a circular path. Although it seemed to be deep and far to the end, a white light shone through and poured out into the gloom to the other side where the opening beckoned. It was the most brilliant light I had ever seen, although I didn’t realize how much of its glory was veiled from the outside. The path was angled upward, obliquely, to the right. Now still hand in hand with the angel, I was led into the opening of the small, dark passageway.

I then remember traveling a long distance upward toward the light. I believe that I was moving very fast, but this entire realm seemed to be outside of time. Finally, I reached my destination. It was only when I emerged from the other end that I realized that I was no longer accompanied by the being who had brought me there. But I wasn’t alone. There, before me, was the living presence of the light. Within it I sensed an all-pervading intelligence, wisdom, compassion, love, and truth. There was neither form nor sex to this perfect being. It, which I shall in the future call he, in keeping without our commonly accepted syntax, contained everything, as white light contains all the colors of a rainbow when penetrating a prism. And deep within me came an instant and wondrous recognition: I, even I, was facing God.

I immediately lashed out at him with all the questions I had ever wondered about; all the injustices I had seen in the physical world. I don’t know if I did this deliberately, but I discovered that God knows all your thoughts immediately and responds telepathically. My mind was naked; in fact, I became pure mind. The ethereal body which I had traveled in through the tunnel seemed to be no more; it was just my personal intelligence confronting that Universal Mind, which clothed itself in a glorious, living light that was more felt that seen, since no eye could absorb its splendor.

I don’t recall the exact content of our discussion; in the process of return, the insights that came so clearly and fully in Heaven were not brought back with me to Earth. I’m sure that I asked the question that had been plaguing me since childhood about the sufferings of my people. I do remember this: There was a reason for everything that happened, no matter how awful it appeared in the physical realm. And within myself, as I was given the answer, my own awakening mind now responded in the same manner:

“Of course,” I would think, “I already know that. How could I ever have forgotten!”

 
We are supposed to believe what one man (Jesus) said, but we are fools to believe multiple Jewish prophets?

that is what the crucifiers wrote in their 4th century christian bible ... the 1st century events are the repudiation of judaism (their false prophets) - false commandments, hereditary idolatry, earthly religion of apartheid et al. that is what they said to follow their true rendering of that time.

jesus never claimed a heavenly messiah was even possible or warranted nor were they jewish.
 
You have Jacob's DNA? Prove it.

What's more, you are not a temple dwelling Judean abiding Mosaic Law. You have no priesthood, no elements in the Holy of Holies, nothing that Jews had before AD 70.

Obviously you're not extinct. They are.

If you will do a search for the name Tsvi Misinai you will have evidence that the four hundred thousand or so Messianic Jewish community of the second century have lots and lots and lots and lots of grandchildren here on this earth at this time.
The Palestinian people who are probably the grandchildren of the Messianic Jewish Community of the second century give us a lot of DNA information related to the Southern Kingdom of Judah as well as to all of the Lost Ten Tribes of israel.

You may be a little bit offended though by one of the most logical theories about what they term themselves to be?


 
Near death experiencer Ms. Beverly Brodsky, in my opinion, is a modern Jewish Prophetess.

Her brush with death and then the mission in life that was explained to her is coming to pass. Ms. Brodsky is changing the way that the world views The Holocaust and Jewish history as people read her NDE account.

Ms. Brodsky may actually disagree with my thinking of her as a Prophetess but that is my belief at this time.

your link is to buy a book - never herd of her - she's a desert dweller, so who knows what she really heard and saw ...
 
your link is to buy a book - never herd of her - she's a desert dweller, so who knows what she really heard and saw ...


I read about her nearly twenty years ago. She is extremely well known in the Near Death Experiencer Community.

She actually argued with The Being of Light of near death experience fame with a vehemence that on some levels was even beyond how Moses talked YHWH out of wiping out the twelve tribes and making a nation out of Moses, [and I assume, the one or two or three or more, who might survive from each of the Twelve or thirteen Tribes].
 
You have Jacob's DNA? Prove it.

What's more, you are not a temple dwelling Judean abiding Mosaic Law. You have no priesthood, no elements in the Holy of Holies, nothing that Jews had before AD 70.

Obviously you're not extinct. They are.
We have genetic markers. And our religion evolved. All religions do.
 
We have genetic markers. And our religion evolved. All religions do.

Have you ever listened to near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava?

He reports being shown during his seven minute brush with death that the computer coding for this universe are in the form o the twenty two letters of the Hebrew alphabet.
 
You have Jacob's DNA? Prove it.

What's more, you are not a temple dwelling Judean abiding Mosaic Law. You have no priesthood, no elements in the Holy of Holies, nothing that Jews had before AD 70.

Obviously you're not extinct. They are.
The Jews were given the Torah way before 70 AD, and we still have THAT!

IOW, we still have the Law that Gd commanded us, and we - as a people - still follow it.

Why is it so important to you to believe that pre-Jesus Jews were wiped out? Our long tradition is still with us.
 
The Jews were given the Torah way before 70 AD, and we still have THAT!

IOW, we still have the Law that Gd commanded us, and we - as a people - still follow it.

Why is it so important to you to believe that pre-Jesus Jews were wiped out? Our long tradition is still with us.
Not pre-Jesus. Post-Jesus.

It's history. The Romans virtually wiped out the Judeans. The diaspora continued to migrate and intermarry. In fact, they had a history of intermarriage and were repeatedly castigated for it.

I think I can name provisions in the Torah that no one follows. Absolutely no one.
 
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jesus never claimed a heavenly messiah was even possible or warranted nor were they jewish.

(John 4:19-22) "The woman saith unto him, Sir ,I perceive that thou art a prophet.

"Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

"Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

"Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews"

(John 4:25-26) "The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

"Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he."
 
there are only (7) ...

a publicly recognized female jewish prophet not needing to be looked up their particular accomplishment ...

who is the first mother of jews, their notoriety for all other jewish mothers to be lineaged from.

is the earthly religion of judaism distinct from tribal affiliation or not - mother as for tribal affiliation being a jew.
you asked if there were any. I said yes.
You said I didn't list them. I listed them.

Now you are complaining because the 7 (which is 7 more than you seemed to think there were) isn't enough.

According to Judaism there were thousands more female prophets but I can't list them.
 
Prove your relationship to Jacob.

Judaism didn't evolve. It changed completely and suddenly.
Cohanim have specific markers. Jews in general have more broad markers that are only common to us.
 
Cohanim have specific markers. Jews in general have more broad markers that are only common to us.
Genetic studies of Kohanim have proved inconclusive in determining uniform descent.

Can you prove that you are descended from the tribe of Judah? Since you haven't yet answered directly, I would just say no, you can't.
 
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