Zone1 Could you be Jewish and not even know it?
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GLASNOST
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It's worth considering.
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"Were"? In what sense? They were Jews before they became Christians, sure, but I don't think that's what you are trying to say.
norwegen
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They were Jews, of Judah, descended from Jacob.
norwegen
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The setting in scripture didn't suddenly change from Old Testament to New Testament, from Israelite to foreigner. The entire story is Israel's story.
The primitive Christians were Jews. When foreigners began embracing Christ, the Jews simply began recognizing a new Jerusalem.
Old Israel, new Israel. Israel was still the subject of the story.
The primitive Christians were Jews. When foreigners began embracing Christ, the Jews simply began recognizing a new Jerusalem.
Old Israel, new Israel. Israel was still the subject of the story.
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Sid Roth gave the statistic of four hundred thousand for the probably number of Messianic Jews living in the Holy Land by the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt, [131 - 135 C. E. or so].
[Sid Roth] :
The first Church was Jewish. If a Gentile wanted to follow the Messiah, he had to convert to Judaism. Then Peter had a revelation that Gentiles did not have to convert to Judaism to be saved (see Acts 10). The Jerusalem Council meeting determined that Gentiles did not have to be circumcised. There were only four easily followed requirements. They were to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood (Acts 15:20). After all, James said, they could learn more about God by hear- ing the words of Moses every Saturday in the syna- gogue (see Acts 15:21). This opened the door to widespread church growth among the Gentiles. So many Gentiles were saved that the Jewish believers became a minority.
The first Jewish followers of Jesus were called Nazarenes (part of the Essenes sect of Judaism dis- cussed in Chapter 3). They practiced traditional Judaism and were widely accepted by unbelieving Jews. Early in the second century their numbers reached 400,000.1 In the Book of Acts, the early church fathers said to Paul: You see, brother, how many myriads [tens of thousands] of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law (Acts 21:20).
The Nazarenes acceptance by traditional Jews came to a halt in A.D. 135 when Rabbi Akiba declared that Bar Kochba was the Jewish Messiah. His followers hoped he would lead them to victory over the Romans. The Nazarenes refused to fight because they believed Jesus was the true Messiah rather than Bar Kochba. They were branded traitors, not because they believed in Jesus, but because they would not join Bar Kochbas armed struggle. Bar Kochba and his followers were quickly slaughtered by the Romans. Afterward, Jews were banned from Jerusalem.
History shows that as the center of the Christian faith moved from Jerusalem to Rome, it became increasingly Hellenized, adopting pagan customs and philosophies rather than the God-ordained practices and beliefs of the Bible. At the same time, Christianity became increasingly anti-Jewish."
[ Sid Roth from his book The Incomplete Church, Chapter 7, page 64, 65)
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The Incomplete Church (Book) by Sid Roth, Code: 1093
Christianity today is very different from the original. To experience the original—the miracles, healings, power, and intimacy with God—we have to examine our Jewish roots. For nearly 2,000 years, there has been a separation between Judaism and Christianity resulting in a lack of miracle power...www.sidroth.org
An atheist can be a Jew. In fact, a fairly substantial percentage of Jews do not believe in Gd.
If your mother was Jewish, you’re Jewish. Period.
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Hey, okay, crackpot ... whatever you say.
funny man ... and the 10 commandments, good luck.
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You are correct because former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava definitely thought of himself as "Jewish" in spite of the fact that he hated religion and religious people before his seven minute brush with death in 2001.
www.AlonAnava.com/
Read about Rabbi Alon Anava
Rabbi Alon Anava was born and raised in Israel. He grew up in Ra’anana in a very secular family without any Torah education or knowledge. He grew up hating religion and anything that had to do with it. He did not believe in G-od and the Torah and lived life as a secular Jew. In […]
www.alonanava.com
About Rabbi Anava
Rabbi Alon Anava was born and raised in Israel. He grew up in Ra’anana in a very secular family without any Torah education or knowledge. He grew up hating religion and anything that had to do with it. He did not believe in G-od and the Torah and lived life as a secular Jew. In 1998, he moved to New York and soon after, on a very special day, the morning of Passover 2001 he had a Near Death Experience due to a sudden cardiac arrest. This event has changed his life for the GOOD!!!
Before his life-altering experience, Alon would describe himself as simply put, ‘not a nice guy..’ but after facing death, and realizing the purpose of life, Alon transformed his very being and since then dedicates his life to serving G-od and Torah observance. Soon After his Near Death Experience he diligently attended Yeshiva studying every day, exploring the depths of Torah, refining and elevating himself on a daily basis for over a decade. Rabbi Alon Anava attended his Rabbinical studies at Yeshivah Kol Ya’akov – Hadar Hatorah in Brooklyn, New York.
After seven years of Yeshivah studies, Rabbi Anava started sharing his Near Death Experience with the public lecturing all around the world at Schools, Synagogues, Yeshivahs, outreach programs and organizations, private sessions and much more, reaching tens of thousands of people at over 2,500 lectures in the past fifteen years. In the past 8 years Rabbi Anava has expanded his out reach efforts through the internet reaching tens of thousands of people resulting with over 500,000 followers worldwide on the internet and social networks. With over 25,000,000 views to his videos, over 1,000,000 DVDs and CDs distributed, his followers enjoy daily Torah studying on his websites, social networks, videos, podcasts, live streaming and live Torah classes and lectures. Rabbi Anava’s followers enjoy his undivided attention through daily phone calls, skype meetings, personal and group meetings along with coaching and assistance. Rabbi Anava and his wife opens their home for hundreds of guests that enjoy their warm and loving hospitality and uplifting Shabbat and holiday meals.
Alon has come back with a gift. He is able to connect to our creator in a very intimate way, allowing him to also connect intimately with others and really help them overcome their questions and concerns and lead and teach them to the right path of Torah observance.
Alon devotes his life to spreading G-od wisdom by teaching Torah every day at lectures, seminars, home gatherings, schools etc., and sharing his personal life changing experience all over the world. He spends his time sharing his story in an attempt to make it as real for you as it is for him. Our hope is that you as the listener will absorb Alon’s story and wake up to the reality of this world. We hope that you will have the strength within you to rise above what seems like the prevailing darkness and choose light. We encourage you to connect to your maker and begin your spiritual journey to better yourself and humanity as a whole. We encourage you to see the miracle of you!
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at least the mother knew better ... than a matriarchal judaism in name only.
- only in the minds of deranged religious fanatics ... the desert religions are a quagmire of self interest - their past histories are certain to invalidate a prosperous future for any of them.
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- is there one jewish female prophet ...
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I am of the belief that near death experiencer Ms. Ariela Solsol Periera was given brilliant explanations for every aspect of human life.
She was Sephardic Jewish.
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Mohamoud is posting here again. Hey how about those Jews kicking Hamas' ass again. Then they wiped out Irans entire air defense system of Russian SS400 batteries without losing a single plane. Look at Iran now. Damn Jews are smart
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It all depends on who King Heremon married...
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More than one. Why?
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just like they disposed of jesus -
abraham 1014 relishes the slaughter of woman and children to brag to the world their great accomplishment establishing themselves stealing other's land their goal and conquest from the beginning for their religion of apartheid and innocently being bewildered why their cause is not admired by everyone.
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you did not name them ... nor who was the first mother.
We are far from "extinct"
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Ancient Jewish History: List of Jewish Prophets
A list of all the Jewish prophets.
Look at the first 7
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