Zone1 Could you be Jewish and not even know it?

[DennisPTate]

Was her mother Jewish?

Yes, Sephardic Jewish but her ancestors were forced to become Roman Catholic, or die.

 

[DennisPTate]

You’re saying that the #1 cause of antisemitism is that Jews “despise” the New Testament?

1) Do you realize you’re blaming the victim?

2) I took a course on the NT, and it TEACHES antisemitism. Stuff like children of Satan, and hypocrites who pray in synogogues.

The Christian Bible was edited by Bishops with a pagan bias. Many books were rejected for all the wrong reasons. Century after century they were forced by Roman Emperors or kings or Popes to put out a narrative that made discovery of the truth of history difficult to find.

The truth about the Gilgul Cycle of Judaism being understood by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was one of the big truths that had to be edited out of the Christian Bible.

"Thank you ,Dennis. An awareness of reincarnation is very important. When I was channelling the book, "The Thomas Book: Near Death, a Quest and a New Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus," I was constantly made aware of the importance of reincarnation to Jesus and to the early Christians. There are very important lessons about reincarnation in The Thomas Book, and the way it was written depends on the reality of reincarnation. A modern direct descendent of Jesus' teachings about reincarnation can be found in the Coptic Church in Egypt, which claims it drew its original teachings from St. Mark, who received his teachings from Jesus. They assert that reincarnation was one of the central teachings of Jesus himself, but that it was wiped out of the wider church by some of the later Roman emperors because those rulers did not want to think that they might be born as lesser beings sometime in the future. The emperors, in their pride, did not want to believe Jesus' teaching that "you reap what you sow," and that they might have to face the consequences of their actions in a future life. They wanted to be in the position where they answered to no one for their actions, as when they were emperors, so insisted that the Bishops pass a law that they would go directly to heaven instead of being reincarnated to face the consequences of their often cruel actions.

The first century Jewish historian, Josephus, says that the Pharisees and the Essenes believed in reincarnation. Since Jesus spent much time with the Essenes in his early life, it is natural that he would preach reincarnation. When I was told by Kevin Ryerson, one of the foremost trance channels in the United States, that I was the reincarnation of Judas Thomas, the twin brother of Jesus, it was a great shock in a way, even though I had been told by Jesus, when I was channelling the Thomas gospel in the early 1980s, that I was the reincarnation of Judas Thomas, and that was why I could write the gospel which came from him. To have this confirmed by someone with the stature of Kevin made it seem more striking in the modern world. By the way, for those who wonder about Jesus having a twin brother, there was an early and wide spread belief in this twin brother of Jesus (also wiped out by some of the people in power in the early Roman church) as can be found in "The Acts of Thomas," "The Book of Thomas the Contender," "The Gospel of Thomas" and "The Song of the Pearl" (all available on the internet).

Reincarnation was replaced with a belief in hell, which was a later, non-Christian teaching which found its way into the early Christian church. According to Jesus' teachings about reincarnation, facing the consequences of our actions in future lives is how we are "rewarded or punished" for what we do, and so, as Barbro Karlen says, we make our own heaven or hell.. But none of it is "punishment," even though it might seem like it is. When we face challenges or suffering in our life, it is a way for us to learn the consequences of earlier action -- it is not punishment. And it is the best way to learn. If we have caused suffering for others in the past, we need to learn what that suffering feels like so that we can decide not to do that again. As Edgar Cayce, the famous American "Sleeping Prophet" from the early 20th century says, "We must experience in our own soul what we have brought into the lives of others." That way we learn that bringing love and compassion and joy and peace into the lives of others brings the same to us, and bringing hatred and fear and pain into the lives of others brings the same to us. When Jesus said, "Do unto others what you would want done to you," he is reflecting this idea, because what we do to others is what will be done to us.

Of course suffering is not always punishment. Sometimes we choose to face challenges in our lives in order to strengthen our faith or our compassion or our understanding in some way. And sometimes advanced souls choose to be incarnated as poor people or beggers or others low in the estimation of the world, in order for us to realize that our negative judgement of the "least of these our brothers and sisters," may be all wrong, because, as Jesus puts it, these may actually be Jesus or some other advanced soul incarnate to teach us about the nature of love and compassion. (If people want to read more about this they can go to

The Thomas Book Near Death, a Quest and a New Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus: MacDonald PH D, Bruce Fraser: 9781608608195: Books - Amazon.ca

The Thomas Book Near Death, a Quest and a New Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus: MacDonald PH D, Bruce Fraser: 9781608608195: Books - Amazon.ca

www.amazon.ca

 

[Calgon]

Errr, this has been the case for over 2000 years. How many.said the same? Judaism isn't going anywhere as long.as America and Israel exist. I am certain though that particular regions of the world would like such an outcome.

Some changes are glacial.

 

[AsherN]

Thank you for your reply but I am telling you that your particular Rabbi is wrong because Leviticus 23 is clear that there are as many as seven annual Sabbaths that do not necessarily happen on the weekly Sabbath from Friday at Sunset to Saturday at sunset.

I don't know which branch of Judaism you have been listening to but here in Toronto even the Reform Jewish synagogue has some services on Passover or Yom Kippur or on several of the annual High Sabbaths, that is not necessarily on the weekly Sabbath, [although sometimes they do fall on the weekly Sabbath].

If you do a search for the Karaite Jewish community they even post the date from Jerusalem when each new moon is visible, [which is exactly how the beginning of months was calculated in the time of Moses and still is used].

I have to admit that seven annual Sabbaths, many of which can be during the week can be a bit difficult for our work schedules.

EVERY Rabbi that is not one of those "messianic" ones, teach that Shabbat is Saturday. It's the name of the day on Hebrew as well. The only that has a name.
There are many Chagim that require cessation of work. There is no such thing as a "high sabbath".
You are trying to teach what you "learned" about Judaism from an antisemitic pastor to actual Jews here. It's not going ot go the way you think it will.

 

[AsherN]

Now I believe that the Rabbi's who taught YOU were somewhat biased, [but they may have had the best of intentions because all Rabbi's in all branches of modern Rabbinic Judaism, in order to preserve Judaism as they were taught Judaism, CANNOT open the door one inch to the possibility that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and John the Baptist, as well as the parents of John the Baptist and the parents of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus were PART OF THE ESSENe JEWISH COMMUNITY of the First Century]!

You had managed to move from one of the typical antisemite we see here to a well meaning uninformed willing to work. This moves you back.

 

[Meriweather]

In Judaism, sin is an individual failing. There is no such thing as "original sin".

I understand. Is there a consensus that all individuals born into this world are prone to this individual failing?

 

[Foxfyre]

After the 1: 06: 00 mark in the following video Rabbi Alon Anava gives a story about his family. His father was born in Lebanon and his father's father had been born in Syria. About a hundred plus years ago it was rather common for Jewish girls to be abducted in Islamic nations, and they would never be seen again. His great grandfather's brother had a daughter who was abducted. Years later because his family were merchants a cousin saw this woman, in Jordan and this girl was grown up and by then was married with children.

Rabbi Alon Anava's point is that there are Jews all over the world who don't even know that they are Jewish. He talks about a story from the town in Israel, where he lives about a synagogue nearby where a man showed up who had been from a Palestinian city. The Rabbi was surprised to find out that a Palestinian was in the synagogue and this man told him a story. He told him that he had grown up being taught that Jews were monsters and they would do this and that and that we should kill them but, when he grew up, he decided to visit Israel to see these "monsters." The Israelis that he met he really liked them and then he decided that that was it he was going to leave the refugee camp and go and live with the Jews. He went back to his home and he told his mother his intentions and his mother told him that he was actually Jewish and his family had moved there about fifty years ago. She even gave him a photograph of an ancestor who was buried in a Jewish cemetery in Israel but she told her son not to tell anybody in the refugee camp, or they would be killed.

Are we at the end of days??? What does the Zohar say about it! - Rabbi Alon Anava​

There is a sentence in the Roman Catholic Bible that was "borrowed" from Jews and it gives a prediction that in our time period that somehow the Lost Tribes of Israel would be restored somehow? I believe that a big part of this will be miraculous but it will also happen so gradually that it may appear to be a natural process.

Mr. Tsvi Misinai has estimated that up to half of the Palestinian people actually know that they have Jewish blood in their veins but the atmosphere is such that they cannot openly talk about this or they would be killed.

I believe that a shift is coming where the Lost Tribes of Israel will be restored and all of us will be amazed. The very fact that the little nation of Israel is already getting close to her seventy eighth birthday is actually pretty amazing if we really think about it.

My father's family were pretty racist and some, including my father and my grandmother were social snobs. They always claimed to have descended from French royalty.

But when I got into serious genealogy of my paternal family I could find zero French connection anywhere. But I did find a lot of evidence that our family name was altered from a common German and Polish Jewish name and is not traceable before that. So I think it very likely that I may really be Jewish on that side of the family.

My father and his snobbish family would turn over in their graves if they were told that. I think it interesting myself.

We are definitely American protestants now but our daughter, still in college at the time,. once sent us a Happy Hanukkah card with the quip that we could have had at least one Jewish kid. Maybe we did.

 

[Lisa558]

EVERY Rabbi that is not one of those "messianic" ones, teach that Shabbat is Saturday. It's the name of the day on Hebrew as well. The only that has a name.
There are many Chagim that require cessation of work. There is no such thing as a "high sabbath".
You are trying to teach what you "learned" about Judaism from an antisemitic pastor to actual Jews here. It's not going ot go the way you think it will.

We’ve been telling him that, and he has a major mindblock. Think of the chutzpah it takes to tell a practicing Jew that her Orthofox Rabbi is wrong because…..wait for it…..an antisemitic pastor told him all about Jewish practices.

 

[Lisa558]

I understand. Is there a consensus that all individuals born into this world are prone to this individual failing?

Of course.

But the concept in Judaism is very different from Christianity. In Christianity, the idea is that Jesus “died for your sins” and that all you need to do is….believe. (And if you don’t believe, you will never see Heaven.)

In Judaism, nobody else can absorb your sins. If you sin against a person, you must seek forgiveness from that person. If you sin against Gd, you must seek forgiveness from him.

Also, one must do more than simply ask forgiveness. One must atone. This involves a vow to never repeat that sin, of course, but also to take some type of action to offset it, to whatever degree possible.

 

[onefour1]

Of course.

But the concept in Judaism is very different from Christianity. In Christianity, the idea is that Jesus “died for your sins” and that all you need to do is….believe. (And if you don’t believe, you will never see Heaven.)

In Judaism, nobody else can absorb your sins. If you sin against a person, you must seek forgiveness from that person. If you sin against Gd, you must seek forgiveness from him.

Also, one must do more than simply ask forgiveness. One must atone. This involves a vow to never repeat that sin, of course, but also to take some type of action to offset it, to whatever degree possible.

So why are all of mankind born under the curse of Adam's sin and become mortal if we are only punished for our own sins and not Adam and Eve's (original sin)? In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we believe that Jesus atoned for original sin but we signed up for this mortal life before we were born into this life. Eventually Jesus will resurrect all mankind both the just and the unjust. But we will stand in judgement for the personal choices we make here on earth as mortals and that judgement will decide where we will be in the hereafter.

 

[Lisa558]

So why are all of mankind born under the curse of Adam's sin and become mortal if we are only punished for our own sins and not Adam and Eve's (original sin)? In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we believe that Jesus atoned for original sin but we signed up for this mortal life before we were born into this life. Eventually Jesus will resurrect all mankind both the just and the unjust. But we will stand in judgement for the personal choices we make here on earth as mortals and that judgement will decide where we will be in the hereafter.

Did you even read what I said? All mankind is NOT born under what you call “the curse of Adam.” That’s a Christian belief. Jews don’t believe in that concept.

 

[onefour1]

Did you even read what I said? All mankind is NOT born under what you call “the curse of Adam.” That’s a Christian belief. Jews don’t believe in that concept.

So what exactly do you believe about mankind's being mortal?

 

[Lisa558]

So what exactly do you believe about mankind's being mortal?

I don’t get the question. Mankind IS mortal,

 

[onefour1]

I don’t get the question. Mankind IS mortal,

Do you believe Adam and Eve ever existed? Do you believe that they were immortal before the fall led on by the partaking of the forbidden fruit? I was under the impression that Jews believed in the old testament. Do you not believe in the Old Testament? Just curious.

 

[Anarchy666]

Do you believe Adam and Eve ever existed? Do you believe that they were immortal before the fall led on by the partaking of the forbidden fruit? I was under the impression that Jews believed in the old testament. Do you not believe in the Old Testament? Just curious.

Judaism and Christianity are far more different than you seem to understand my man

 

[FDR_Reagan]

What is "being Jewish"? Is that like Americans "being Italian"?

One would expect the IMAM NAZI glasnost to show his filth here.

 

[onefour1]

Judaism and Christianity are far more different than you seem to understand my man

Are you a Jew associated with Judaism? If so, teach me.

 

[Foxfyre]

Judaism and Christianity are far more different than you seem to understand my man

Christianity is seen through the eyes of the experience, beliefs, teachings of the various Christian sects as well as that of the Jews and is tempered by each person's individual experience. Pretty much nobody among all those will agree on everything. Including the immortality of Adam and Eve or whether Adam and Eve actually existed or are concepts in a teaching allegory.

At any rate that all strays waaaaaay off a subject of whether we might be Jewish and not know it.

 

[rosends]

So why are all of mankind born under the curse of Adam's sin and become mortal if we are only punished for our own sins and not Adam and Eve's (original sin)? In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we believe that Jesus atoned for original sin but we signed up for this mortal life before we were born into this life. Eventually Jesus will resurrect all mankind both the just and the unjust. But we will stand in judgement for the personal choices we make here on earth as mortals and that judgement will decide where we will be in the hereafter.

According to Judaism, mankind's nature changed after Adam and Eve ate of the fruit. That change made them incompatible with the Edenic existence. It isn't about sinning but about having internalized a temptation to act against laws. It is sort of like the state of Innocence in Blake's poetry and proto Romantic writing.

 

[onefour1]

According to Judaism, mankind's nature changed after Adam and Eve ate of the fruit. That change made them incompatible with the Edenic existence. It isn't about sinning but about having internalized a temptation to act against laws. It is sort of like the state of Innocence in Blake's poetry and proto Romantic writing.

So was the Edenic existence an immortal existence? Was the change a change to mortality? Not familiar with Blake. In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we believe that Adam transgressed the law but that it may not have been sin since Adam and Eve were in a state of innocence, not knowing good from evil at the time they partook of the fruit. Only upon eating of the fruit did Adam and Eve gain an understanding of good and evil.