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Could The Trinity Doctrine Be Wrong?

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This actually sounds like it could be the more I think about it.




 

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1 problem is:
The original trinity was father/mother/son, the church used the mystery religions mother son devotion and idols.
Then it became Father, word, son until it became Father, Holy Spirit, Son.
The problem with that is when Daniel has his vision, he did not claim to be the messenger giving the message, nor be claimed one with- but a part of that messenger. Nor did any prophet claim or be claimed a duality or trinity they just were Oracles of the message.
Most damaging is Rev 1:13 Jesus is claimed
"like unto" son of man. Like unto: emulation, impersonation of son of man.

problem 2; counting is off
Their early writings say;
"God will give you another with a new name", so thats a 4th portion not 3, and really 5 since they never recognized the the body-face of the first return.
 
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1 problem is:
The original trinity was father/mother/son, the church used the mystery religions mother son devotion and idols.



Wait, even though Mary's the mother of Jesus, only the Catholics believe that she should be worshipped with the Father and Son. Although, I do believe that Catholicism is the oldest religion so other religions might of originally believed in that as well before branching of from it.
 

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Wait, even though Mary's the mother of Jesus, only the Catholics believe that she should be worshipped with the Father and Son. Although, I do believe that Catholicism is the oldest religion so other religions might of originally believed in that as well before branching of from it.
Catholics do not worship Mary.

Catholics do not believe Mary is, or ever was, part of the Trinity.
 
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Catholics do not worship Mary.



Then why do they pray to her? (I'm not bashing their religion btw, I think it's a legit question.)
 

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Wait, even though Mary's the mother of Jesus, only the Catholics believe that she should be worshipped with the Father and Son. Although, I do believe that Catholicism is the oldest religion so other religions might of originally believed in that as well before branching of from it.

Father, Son and Holy Spirit, so Mary is not worshipped that way and Catholicism is not the oldest and Copts is older when it come Christianity and Judaism is older than Christianity…
 

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To get to Jesus.



Why don't they just pray to Him directly though? It's not like He's a little kid and they have to ask His mother if He can come out to play. :rolleyes:
 

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Why don't they just pray to Him directly though? It's not like He's a little kid and they have to ask His mother if He can come out to play. :rolleyes:
They prey like they used to when they were pagans. The Bible clearly states how to pray and it doesn't include the family of Jesus, Jesus or any of the other characters added later called saints.
 

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the trinity was made necessary to bring to fruition the 4th century christian characterization the 1st century religious itinerant was not a mortal, was a messiah and would someday return after having been put to death. to maintain their religion as unique over all others.

- fabricated by those who were responsible for the itinerants crucifixion.
 
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They prey like they used to when they were pagans. The Bible clearly states how to pray and it doesn't include the family of Jesus, Jesus or any of the other characters added later called saints.



But that doesn't make any sense. Pagans are the total opposite of Christians aren't they? So why would they be praying to any religious figure?
 
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JohnDB, how do you see this issue?
 

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Why don't they just pray to Him directly though? It's not like He's a little kid and they have to ask His mother if He can come out to play. :rolleyes:
You probably need to ask them about that.
 

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Then why do they pray to her? (I'm not bashing their religion btw, I think it's a legit question.)
Prayer is not necessarily worship.

A Catholic may pray to Mary or any Saint. These are people who are officially declared by the Catholic Church to be in heaven and therefore can hear our prayers and intercede with God on our behalf.
 

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Wait, even though Mary's the mother of Jesus, only the Catholics believe that she should be worshipped with the Father and Son. Although, I do believe that Catholicism is the oldest religion so other religions might of originally believed in that as well before branching of from it.
It is known by historians and archeologists that they plagiarized the death scene from the passion play of Bel (Baal) -as found in ancient tablets housed in the British museum.
They borrowed the Baal birthdate (Dec 25), borrowed the Canaanite mythology of Athtar the Fierce where the son (morning star) has to die to surpass his father Baal on the throne.
And to this day they use the Baal sun cross, Baal's father Dagon's fishgod ring the Pope wears, fishead hats (mitres), and fish scale robes of Baal priests, and the incense tools & smoke used depicted in ancient tablets depicting Baal priests.
So it should be of no surprise they used the Mystery Babylon religion's trinity of
God/Godess/Son
The holy trinity is mystery Babylon was revealed as Baal(father), Isis (mother), Morning star (son) who is the myth plagiarized masking worship of the father as 1 in the same mythology.
=(father and son are one[in the same])
Thus Rev 22:16 they admit this masked trinity
Claiming Jesus (as morning star) which makes the father Baal not YHWH.
 

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