Could someone who is calling to "Free Palestine" explain what that realistically looks like?

[AnOrangeCat]

Especially after the latest incident where the IDF kidnapped unarmed aid worker on International waters to be tortured and gang raped.

You know why they made that baseless accusation, right? Because there was a report issued that examined in full detail the use of widespread rape as a weapon used by Hamas on 10/7. That report is so damning to Palestinians and their supporters that they flail and try to come up with something to compare it to, regardless if it's fiction.

Like accusing Israel of training dogs to SA prisoners. That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard levied against Israel, and I'm 47 so I've been around a while. How does that even happen? How do you train a dog to get horny and then train the dog to hump a person? Like, can you explain how that works? Or is this just another thing you haven't given any thought to so you just repeat it.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Don't know. Have you tried asking them?

Maybe you should know that before going around screaming for a "Free Palestine" or whatever.

Why do you think Jordan and Egypt didn't create one between 1948-1967? It's the same land you're saying is "Palestine" today.

So...was it not Palestine in 1948? When did it become that?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel was "correct" given its outcome so far, while 22% said it was "incorrect".

They don't even pay lip service to the 2SS anymore.

10/7 was their big middle finger to that.

All of us who supported a 2SS for 20 years ended up looking stupid because of 10/7.

We convinced ourselves that Palestinians want to live side by side with Israel despite all their actions from the last 20 years indicating otherwise.

 

[task0778]

Actually I am neither Christian nor Jewish, but I do believe that Israel deserves to live in peace with it's neighbors. The problem is that their neighbors do not want to live in peace with them. And that is the plain, unvarnished truth.

I bet you call yourself a Christian don't ya? Anything for the Jews, though.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Because I don't really care.

I suspected as much.

You're just exploiting Palestinians in order to get what you want, which is demonization of Israel and Jews in the diaspora.

No other explanation makes sense.

I have an opinion, but I have no vested interests there.

Then why did you respond on this thread?

Into what exactly -- a Two-state solution?

There will never be a 2SS now. 10/7 killed that along with 1200 Israelis of all races and religions. For 20 years we lied to ourselves that those people can coexist. 10/7 was the ultimate rejection of coexistence.

I don't believe the US tried building any democratic states.

How old were you in 2003?

Former U.S. President George W. Bush established the "Freedom Agenda", a foreign policy built on the belief that spreading democracy is the ultimate alternative to terrorism and the best way to ensure long-term American security

I don't care, unless that's what the people there want, I say go for it.

Right, you're selfish and exploitive. Exactly. You don't care about the consequences.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Actually I am neither Christian nor Jewish, but I do believe that Israel deserves to live in peace with it's neighbors. The problem is that their neighbors do not want to live in peace with them. And that is the plain, unvarnished truth.

Good Goy.

All the countries Israel attacked in 2025: Animated map

Israel has carried out attacks in Palestine, Lebanon, Iran, Syria, Qatar and Yemen, as well as in maritime waters.

www.aljazeera.com

Israel has attacked more countries than any other country this year.

In 2025, Israel attacked at least six countries, including Palestine, Iran, Lebanon, Qatar, Syria, and Yemen.

It also carried out strikes in Tunisian, Maltese and Greek territorial waters on aid flotillas heading for Gaza.

According to Armed Conflict Location and Event Data (ACLED), an independent conflict monitor, from January 1 to December 5, Israel carried out at least 10,631 attacks, marking one of the broadest geographic military offensives in a single year.

 

[task0778]

Good Goy.

All the countries Israel attacked in 2025: Animated map

Israel has carried out attacks in Palestine, Lebanon, Iran, Syria, Qatar and Yemen, as well as in maritime waters.

www.aljazeera.com

Israel has attacked more countries than any other country this year.

In 2025, Israel attacked at least six countries, including Palestine, Iran, Lebanon, Qatar, Syria, and Yemen.

It also carried out strikes in Tunisian, Maltese and Greek territorial waters on aid flotillas heading for Gaza.

According to Armed Conflict Location and Event Data (ACLED), an independent conflict monitor, from January 1 to December 5, Israel carried out at least 10,631 attacks, marking one of the broadest geographic military offensives in a single year.

I think you well know that every one of those attacks by Israel were against terrorist organizations therein rather than against a gov't or a people. When attacked, Israel has every right to defend itself and go after the terrorists who are responsible for Israeli lives lost and property destroyed.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

I think you well know that every one of those attacks by Israel were against terrorist organizations therein rather than against a gov't or a people. When attacked, Israel has every right to defend itself and go after the terrorists who are responsible for Israeli lives lost and property destroyed.

LOL!
So many terrorists, they are now going to colonize an area that they sanitized of native inhabitants. Communities that have been living there for thousands of years.
Some of the oldest Christian communities in the world, in fact.
I guess those terrorists won't be back!

Israel advances settlement scheme for southern Lebanon despite direct negotiations

www.globalsecurity.org

Muh Judeo Christian Values!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You know why they made that baseless accusation, right? Because there was a report issued that examined in full detail the use of widespread rape as a weapon used by Hamas on 10/7. That report is so damning to Palestinians and their supporters that they flail and try to come up with something to compare it to, regardless if it's fiction.

Like accusing Israel of training dogs to SA prisoners. That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard levied against Israel, and I'm 47 so I've been around a while. How does that even happen? How do you train a dog to get horny and then train the dog to hump a person? Like, can you explain how that works? Or is this just another thing you haven't given any thought to so you just repeat it.

Israel is not even bombing Lebanon!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

LOL!
So many terrorists, they are now going to colonize an area that they sanitized of native inhabitants. Communities that have been living there for thousands of years.
Some of the oldest Christian communities in the world, in fact.
I guess those terrorists won't be back!

Israel advances settlement scheme for southern Lebanon despite direct negotiations

www.globalsecurity.org

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Muh Judeo Christian Values!!

 

[Lockback]

"Palestine" is a fraud.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

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Israel is movie villain, bad. Absolutely, off the chain, rabid, evil.
These brainwashed mouth breathers on here, many of whom call themselves Christians, will defend them too.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

So many terrorists, they are now going to colonize an area that they sanitized of native inhabitants.

Launch rockets, lose your home.

That's how it works.

Communities that have been living there for thousands of years.

BS. Arabs only got there about 1300 years ago. Jews have been there for 3,000 years.

If Palestinians are descended from ancient tribes, why is everything about their identity Arab?

Every other group that faced the Muslim colonization retained significant parts of their cultural identity. All of them. Jews, Kurds, Persians, Berbers, Druze, Armenians, Alawites, Bedouin, Pashtuns, Kazahks, Uzbeks, Coptics...they all retained major parts of their cultural identity, but Palestinians did not.

Palestinians speak Arabic, give their kids Arab names, uphold Arab customs, and pray to Mecca, not Jerusalem.

There is nothing that connects Palestinians to land outside the Arabian peninsula, and all the fake DNA tests in the world will never be able to account for that pretty major aspect.

Some of the oldest Christian communities in the world, in fact.

But not older than the Jewish communities who were ethnically cleansed out of places like Hebron, where they had lived for over 3,000 years.

Christianity is younger than that.

 

[AnOrangeCat]

srael has attacked more countries than any other country this year.

Countries or terrorist groups? Because there's a difference...unless you think it's a distinction without difference, which would mean all those Arab countries are run by Islamists.

In 2025, Israel attacked at least six countries, including Palestine, Iran, Lebanon, Qatar, Syria, and Yemen.

Palestine is not a country. Every one of the countries you mentioned here have been attacking Israel for long before the most recent war Arabs started.

It also carried out strikes in Tunisian, Maltese and Greek territorial waters on aid flotillas heading for Gaza.

That's BS. Completely untrue. The people on those boat parades love making wild accusations, but none of them ever pan out because they're liars.

Also, it's very suspicious that these boat parades always seem to happen whenever Hamas is in a tough spot during negotiations to disarm as per the ceasefire agreement they demanded.

Hamas agreed to disarm back in October but haven't and likely never will. Hamas violates the ceasefire every single day they don't disarm. They wanted this ceasefire, agreed to the terms, but are not following through.

According to Armed Conflict Location and Event Data (ACLED), an independent conflict monitor, from January 1 to December 5, Israel carried out at least 10,631 attacks, marking one of the broadest geographic military offensives in a single year.

Great. I got no problem with that. Taking out terrorists and their financiers is what you all want, right?

 

[AnOrangeCat]

Israel is movie villain, bad. Absolutely, off the chain, rabid, evil.
These brainwashed mouth breathers on here, many of whom call themselves Christians, will defend them too.

Don't you think it's weird that whenever Hamas is in a tough spot in negotiations, the boat parades launch.

You know what those boat parades look like? Same energy:

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Israel is movie villain, bad. Absolutely, off the chain, rabid, evil.
These brainwashed mouth breathers on here, many of whom call themselves Christians, will defend them too.

Christian Zionists don’t believe Zionist “Israel” is blowing up churches, pushing nuns to the ground and spitting on worshippers

 

[AZrailwhale]

Don't you think it's weird that whenever Hamas is in a tough spot in negotiations, the boat parades launch.

You know what those boat parades look like? Same energy:

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Except perhaps one hundredth of a hundredth percent as many participants.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Countries or terrorist groups? Because there's a difference...unless you think it's a distinction without difference, which would mean all those Arab countries are run by Islamists.


Palestine is not a country. Every one of the countries you mentioned here have been attacking Israel for long before the most recent war Arabs started.



That's BS. Completely untrue. The people on those boat parades love making wild accusations, but none of them ever pan out because they're liars.

Also, it's very suspicious that these boat parades always seem to happen whenever Hamas is in a tough spot during negotiations to disarm as per the ceasefire agreement they demanded.

Hamas agreed to disarm back in October but haven't and likely never will. Hamas violates the ceasefire every single day they don't disarm. They wanted this ceasefire, agreed to the terms, but are not following through.



Great. I got no problem with that. Taking out terrorists and their financiers is what you all want, right?

Did they brief you before they ordered you here?

Gaslighting has absolutely no effect

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Christian Zionists don’t believe Zionist “Israel” is blowing up churches, pushing nuns to the ground and spitting on worshippers

No hyperbole, they are disgusting.
Look noo further than Ambassador Mike Huckabee.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No hyperbole, they are disgusting.
Look noo further than Ambassador Mike Huckabee.