RetiredGySgt
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ww2 has nothing to do with it, the FACT is that the US controlled the Afghan country side with 2500 troops air power and artillery support was all the Afghan Army needed.
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No it does not the FACT is for the last 18 months we lost noone and the afghan troops held well with just our support.RetiredGySgt hey---AND--AND---we don't keep troops in Germany to keep terrorists out or keep the country stable or keep order---stop civil war/etc- [ as it is in Afghanistan ] --we keep them there for Russia/etc----so--that right there-destroys your whole argument .......
No shit, genius.Trump did not withdraw
biden did
That was a dumb moveTrump got the Afghan government to release over 5000 Taliban prisoners being held in Afghan prisons.
"but the war it was designed to end involves afghans killing each other not Americans"?That was a dumb move
but the war it was designed to end involves afghans killing each other not Americans
until biden went completely full senile there was still time to bring the White House to its senses
That was over a year agoThe last two Americans that died there was on February 8 2020.
If what you are using them for is just and right. Such as self defence.My opinion is that if we’re going to use the military, we should use it for its intended purpose. And that is to destroy and kill everything in its path.
Part we agree on: I agree that the Taliban enabled Al Qaeda who attacked the United States. And that means I totally support our attacking and destroying the Taliban and paying them back many times over for what they did to us. And I had no problem with our military staying involved and keeping them down by bombing and whatever else we wanted to do to them for as long as we need to keep them from being a threat and as a warning others what we will do to them.
What I don't agree with: Nation building in Afghanistan. It's a tribal country. Russia failed to control it. Britain failed four times. We had no chance. We should not have invaded and tried to build a government there. To maintain the government, we will have to stay for centuries. That is insane. W was a moron and really screwed us by putting us in an impossible situation where we could never leave.
It's really unfortunate that we sent so many Americans who fought and died for our country. My niece was in the military there and her husband did at least five tours that I remember. Now we pull out and it falls negating their sacrifice and the price we and they paid. I feel genuinely bad about that.
But what choice do we have? We have been there for almost 20 years and they aren't remotely able to support themselves. They won't be in our lifetimes. They won't be in our children's lifetimes.
What should we have done? What is the solution other than leaving? I can't believe Bush went in without realizing this is how at one point or another it would end.
U.S. troops leaving Afghanistan teetering on the brink of all-out civil war
As CBS News visits the viciously contested front line, it's clear U.S. troops are leaving behind an Afghan security force struggling to fend off a resurgent Taliban.www.cbsnews.com
Excellent post.Part we agree on: I agree that the Taliban enabled Al Qaeda who attacked the United States. And that means I totally support our attacking and destroying the Taliban and paying them back many times over for what they did to us. And I had no problem with our military staying involved and keeping them down by bombing and whatever else we wanted to do to them for as long as we need to keep them from being a threat and as a warning others what we will do to them.
What I don't agree with: Nation building in Afghanistan. It's a tribal country. Russia failed to control it. Britain failed four times. We had no chance. We should not have invaded and tried to build a government there. To maintain the government, we will have to stay for centuries. That is insane. W was a moron and really screwed us by putting us in an impossible situation where we could never leave.
It's really unfortunate that we sent so many Americans who fought and died for our country. My niece was in the military there and her husband did at least five tours that I remember. Now we pull out and it falls negating their sacrifice and the price we and they paid. I feel genuinely bad about that.
But what choice do we have? We have been there for almost 20 years and they aren't remotely able to support themselves. They won't be in our lifetimes. They won't be in our children's lifetimes.
What should we have done? What is the solution other than leaving? I can't believe Bush went in without realizing this is how at one point or another it would end.
U.S. troops leaving Afghanistan teetering on the brink of all-out civil war
As CBS News visits the viciously contested front line, it's clear U.S. troops are leaving behind an Afghan security force struggling to fend off a resurgent Taliban.www.cbsnews.com
Part we agree on: I agree that the Taliban enabled Al Qaeda who attacked the United States. And that means I totally support our attacking and destroying the Taliban and paying them back many times over for what they did to us. And I had no problem with our military staying involved and keeping them down by bombing and whatever else we wanted to do to them for as long as we need to keep them from being a threat and as a warning others what we will do to them.
What I don't agree with: Nation building in Afghanistan. It's a tribal country. Russia failed to control it. Britain failed four times. We had no chance. We should not have invaded and tried to build a government there. To maintain the government, we will have to stay for centuries. That is insane. W was a moron and really screwed us by putting us in an impossible situation where we could never leave.
It's really unfortunate that we sent so many Americans who fought and died for our country. My niece was in the military there and her husband did at least five tours that I remember. Now we pull out and it falls negating their sacrifice and the price we and they paid. I feel genuinely bad about that.
But what choice do we have? We have been there for almost 20 years and they aren't remotely able to support themselves. They won't be in our lifetimes. They won't be in our children's lifetimes.
What should we have done? What is the solution other than leaving? I can't believe Bush went in without realizing this is how at one point or another it would end.
U.S. troops leaving Afghanistan teetering on the brink of all-out civil war
As CBS News visits the viciously contested front line, it's clear U.S. troops are leaving behind an Afghan security force struggling to fend off a resurgent Taliban.www.cbsnews.com
When we finally pull out I think we all know what is likely to happen if we are being honest the Taliban takes over again but look how long we have been there and not much has changed. There is no good answer to this question.
When we finally pull out I think we all know what is likely to happen if we are being honest the Taliban takes over again but look how long we have been there and not much has changed. There is no good answer to this question.
Retreats are never orderly and graceful. More often, they're like this:I think the majority of the conservatives were in favor of the withdrawl but we wanted a plan to get out the americans and all the people who helped our troops like the interpreters and their families . This is not what Biden did ..