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The young woman was not ever convicted or even indicted for treason.If Hanoi Jane didn't hang herself, she did not "accept responsibility" for her treason.
Yes...her career was so "over" by 1981 that...she got nominated as best supporting actress in the year's second highest grossing movie! (Second to Raiders of the Lost Ark-she lost the Oscar to Maureen Stapleton in Reds.)
Interestingly, the North Vietnamese propaganda tool - the contrived photo-op - was embraced and promoted as a propaganda tool by those who were hellbent upon perpetuating the sacrifice of American lives in the costly U.S. intervention into the Vietnamese Civil War. Both sides hyped it in furtherance of their respective, diametrically-opposed agendas, advocates for the invading forces more so. That there are those who still find propaganda value in a pic of an attractive young woman sitting at a gun is rather astounding. Maybe the NRA should buy the rights to promote their agenda.Yes...her career was so "over" by 1981 that...she got nominated as best supporting actress in the year's second highest grossing movie! (Second to Raiders of the Lost Ark-she lost the Oscar to Maureen Stapleton in Reds.)
Okay... and let's look at that, Ditchweed. By 1981, Ronald Reagan had gotten into office calling Vietnam a "Nobel Cause". Hollywood had also started releasing Rambo Movies, which perpetuated the mythology of hippies spitting on soldiers and the whole "Stabbed in the Back" Myth. The whole legend that there were some POW's in some Vietnam camps started being perpetuated, and everyone flew those stupid POW/MIA flags.
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In short, by 1981, we had moved from "thank God we got out of that stupid war our politicians lied us into" to "Why did those hippies like Jane Fonda betray us in our noble cause". It was just inconceivable to Americans that America could lose a war.
So while she had been doing two to three major films in the 1970's a year, that trickled down to one film every two years during the 80's... and her career pretty much ends in 1990 until she got a revival in the Oughts playing supporting characters and Voiceover work.
Yes, Jane Fonda got cancelled.
She should have been arrested, tried, convicted (it was open and shut), and executed.The young woman was not ever convicted or even indicted for treason.
Your demand that she should have died at her own hand for her lapse in judgement is antithetical to the moral code of the nation, certainly to the Christian ethos, but, if you need to wish her dead, just close your eyes and click the heels of your self-righteous ruby slippers together three times.
The NFL settled
Her career didn't "end", you blithering idiot. She married Ted Turner and RETIRED FROM ACTING!Yes...her career was so "over" by 1981 that...she got nominated as best supporting actress in the year's second highest grossing movie! (Second to Raiders of the Lost Ark-she lost the Oscar to Maureen Stapleton in Reds.)
Okay... and let's look at that, Ditchweed. By 1981, Ronald Reagan had gotten into office calling Vietnam a "Nobel Cause". Hollywood had also started releasing Rambo Movies, which perpetuated the mythology of hippies spitting on soldiers and the whole "Stabbed in the Back" Myth. The whole legend that there were some POW's in some Vietnam camps started being perpetuated, and everyone flew those stupid POW/MIA flags.
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In short, by 1981, we had moved from "thank God we got out of that stupid war our politicians lied us into" to "Why did those hippies like Jane Fonda betray us in our noble cause". It was just inconceivable to Americans that America could lose a war.
So while she had been doing two to three major films in the 1970's a year, that trickled down to one film every two years during the 80's... and her career pretty much ends in 1990 until she got a revival in the Oughts playing supporting characters and Voiceover work.
Yes, Jane Fonda got cancelled.
If you are in a tizzy that no American regime ever satisfied your desires, you are free to remain alienated from American jurisprudence.She should have been arrested, tried, convicted (it was open and shut), and executed.
You appear to be confused. Where did I ever label you a Christian?I will give you one hundred trillion dollars a day for one trillion days if you can show one post where I ever claimed to be a Christian.
If you are in a tizzy that no American regime ever satisfied your desires, you are free to remain alienated from American jurisprudence.She should have been arrested, tried, convicted (it was open and shut), and executed.
Her career didn't "end", you blithering idiot. She married Ted Turner and RETIRED FROM ACTING!
And yet again: how many actresses get "talented leading lady" roles in their mid 40s or older? Be honest...if you are capable of that. (You're not.)
It might help if you sounded it out phonetically.I'm sorry...what in the name of Jesus Christ and a pair of fuzzy dice are you babbling about?
it is not a myth that hippies/anti-war folks spit on returning soldiers...it happened....the returning servicemen were treated horribly, in part because of people like FondaYes...her career was so "over" by 1981 that...she got nominated as best supporting actress in the year's second highest grossing movie! (Second to Raiders of the Lost Ark-she lost the Oscar to Maureen Stapleton in Reds.)
Okay... and let's look at that, Ditchweed. By 1981, Ronald Reagan had gotten into office calling Vietnam a "Nobel Cause". Hollywood had also started releasing Rambo Movies, which perpetuated the mythology of hippies spitting on soldiers and the whole "Stabbed in the Back" Myth. The whole legend that there were some POW's in some Vietnam camps started being perpetuated, and everyone flew those stupid POW/MIA flags.
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In short, by 1981, we had moved from "thank God we got out of that stupid war our politicians lied us into" to "Why did those hippies like Jane Fonda betray us in our noble cause". It was just inconceivable to Americans that America could lose a war.
So while she had been doing two to three major films in the 1970's a year, that trickled down to one film every two years during the 80's... and her career pretty much ends in 1990 until she got a revival in the Oughts playing supporting characters and Voiceover work.
Yes, Jane Fonda got cancelled.
it is not a myth that hippies/anti-war folks spit on returning soldiers...it happened....the returning servicemen were treated horribly, in part because of people like Fonda
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Also there were a number of very big, popular Vietnam movies well before 1981...the Deer Hunter for example, Apocalypse Now,......face it Fonda wasn't cancelled, although she is likely one of the few people that really should have been
Ok, ask a Vet...not some liberal professor that spoke to a few people, then wow...couldn't find a photo? Sorry....I believe the war heroesit is not a myth that hippies/anti-war folks spit on returning soldiers...it happened....the returning servicemen were treated horribly, in part because of people like Fonda
No, actually, it's a complete fabrication.
There's not one documented case of it in contemporary media, such as "Hippy spits on soldier" or "Hippy in Hospital after Soldier kicks his ass."
OPINION EXCHANGE | The myth of the spat-upon war veteran
This legend is repeated even by presidents. The evidence doesn't bear it out.
In his exhaustive book entitled "The Spitting Image," Vietnam vet and Holy Cross Prof. Jerry Lembcke documents veterans who claim they were spat on by antiwar protestors, but he found no physical evidence (photographs, news reports, etc.) that these transgressions actually occurred. His findings are supported by surveys of his fellow Vietnam veterans as they came home.
For instance, Lembcke notes that "a U.S. Senate study, based on data collected in August 1971 by Harris Associates, found that 75 percent of Vietnam-era veterans polled disagreed with the statement, 'Those people at home who opposed the Vietnam war often blame veterans for our involvement there'" while "94 percent said their reception by people their own age who had not served in the armed forces was friendly."
Meanwhile, the Veterans' World Project at Southern Illinois University found that many Vietnam vets supported the antiwar protest, with researchers finding almost no veterans "finish[ing] their service in Vietnam believing that what the United States has done there has served to forward our nation's purposes."
In short, it was a myth made up, not unlike the Dolchstoßlegende of post World War I Germany that Germany had not been defeated, but stabbed in the back by Jews and Communists. America simply couldn't accept they had lost a war that it never really wanted to fight to start with.
Also there were a number of very big, popular Vietnam movies well before 1981...the Deer Hunter for example, Apocalypse Now,......face it Fonda wasn't cancelled, although she is likely one of the few people that really should have been
Do you really think those movies were "celebrations" of Vietnam? Neither showed the war in a good light.
the point about those movies is they weren't movies like Rambo that celebrated myths like soldiers being spat upon or the Vietnamese were holding Americans after the war and our government wasn't bothering to rescue them.
In short, instead of our wrath being where it should have been directed, at political leaders of BOTH PARTIES who instigated, escalated and deceived the public about the war, we turned our wrath on the people who actually had the integrity to say, "No, this is wrong."
The "scandal" of Fonda's Hanoi visit was not that she was dumb enough to get herself photographed sitting on an AA gun, it was that she went around showing that we were bombing hospitals and schools and homes of people who weren't a threat to us.
No matter how many times you regurgitate that, boy,, it is still a lie.The ones who can act certainly do.
Again- did you need help with the big words? Her career was over by 1981, about the same time that we all started rewriting the Vietnam War in our heads.
You don't know either, then? Figured.It might help if you sounded it out phonetically.
Ok, ask a Vet...not some liberal professor that spoke to a few people, then wow...couldn't find a photo? Sorry....I believe the war heroes
No, I don't think they did....not sure why you would celebrate the war.....and I would hardly call Rambo a celebration.....it was about a guy that was dealing with PTSD after coming home from the war...
No the scandel of Fonda was she was on a anti-aircraft gun that killed Americans. Of course we were bombing things....we did in WW1, 2, etc.....
Those are all good points but I do wonder what did Gina Carano say that you label as racist, conspiratorial and transphobic? What even is transphobic?
Irrational fear of transsexual Americans.
The transphobic, anti-mask, and Holocaust tweets that led to Gina Carano getting fired from Disney's The Mandalorian
Former MMA star and actress Gina Carano continues to trend worldwide after being fired unceremoniously from Disney's The Mandalorian.www.sportskeeda.com
I don't see anything racist or transphobic there. And I agree with her about the face diapers. And it is a fact that people were turning other people in during Nazi Germany. They are even doing that now in the US and reporting people for not wearing a face diaper.
But that doesn't make sense. If you got punished for free speech then it means there is no free speech.This isn’t complicated.
Freedom of speech does not shield one from repercussions there after.
You going to play stupid too? Ok let’s start with something simple for you.Translation: "Being unable to refute any of the facts offered, I will chug prune juice, drop trou, and spin in a circle, blasting explosive diarrhea in all directions."
Here’s a nice simple video for you. Click on it to play.
Are you seriously going to pretend that there wasn’t a huge backlash against Kaepernick when the whole kneeling thing started?
Go sit in the corner.
Then you are pointless because none of those people have been vindicated.So? Her employers wished to avoid a negative reaction from the public which buys the product and decides for itself what is/is not racist or transphobic garbage. Much like Kaepernick and the NFL or Hanoi Jane Fonda and Hollywood producers.
Exactly my point. But no one really whined about "cancel culture" with those folks, did they?
The difference is, all those other people were eventually vindicated.
