Comer releases Archer transcript

[Marener]

wow. That's putting words into my mouth. Not a fair way to debate but do as you wish.

It was asking a question.

You are the CEO of a small business....say 50 people.
Your CFO has a son working in your company.
That son is accused by a co-worker of sexual misbehavior.
Your director of HR is assigned to investigate the complaint.
The CFO fires the HR director who is investigating his son.

You, as the CFO.....would you allow that to happen? Or would you have removed the CFO from that responsibility to avoid bad optics and bias?

Now, we are talking about a 50 person small business.

Sure, I'd remove the CFO from that responsibility.

WHy would Obama, with tens of thousands employees, assign Biden to deal with the issue with Burisma?

Biden wasn't dealing with "the issue with Burisma", that's not what he was assigned to do. The world doesn't revolve around Burisma. Ukraine doesn't resolve around Burisma. US policy doesn't revolve around Burisma.

No one was concerned about the optics of firing Shokin because no one knew about any investigation into Burisma. They didn't know about any investigation into Burisma because Shokin (or whoever came up with this attempt at a scandal, something the Russian intelligence agencies have been involved in) seem to have basically invented it years after he was fired.

 

[badger2]

On the Pshonka wikipage: 'In early April 2015 Shokin stated that GPU files had disappeared....On 15 Ap 2015, Nayyem recovered missing GPU files.'

Mustafa Nayyem

Mustafa Nayyem - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

'....was influential in sparking the Euromaidan in Ukraine.'

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It was asking a question.

Sure, I'd remove the CFO from that responsibility.

Biden wasn't dealing with "the issue with Burisma", that's not what he was assigned to do. The world doesn't revolve around Burisma. Ukraine doesn't resolve around Burisma. US policy doesn't revolve around Burisma.

No one was concerned about the optics of firing Shokin because no one knew about any investigation into Burisma. They didn't know about any investigation into Burisma because Shokin (or whoever came up with this attempt at a scandal, something the Russian intelligence agencies have been involved in) seem to have basically invented it years after he was fired.

So to you all the timing and events are just a coincidence? I see

 

[Marener]

So to you all the timing and events are just a coincidence? I see

You tell me. Is it just a coincidence that the State Dept decided Shokin needed to be fired at the same time Burisma was supposedly bribing him to do so?

Over an investigation that no one can seem to find any evidence of and appears to have been fabricated after the fact?

 

[badger2]

So to you all the timing and events are just a coincidence? I see

The UK's desire for information on Ukraine is intriguing. What is the chron for that?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You tell me. Is it just a coincidence that the State Dept decided Shokin needed to be fired at the same time Burisma was supposedly bribing him to do so?

Over an investigation that no one can seem to find any evidence of and appears to have been fabricated after the fact?

Fabricated? Why did Biden want him fired? What was the reasoning? Why some random prosecutor?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You tell me. Is it just a coincidence that the State Dept decided Shokin needed to be fired at the same time Burisma was supposedly bribing him to do so?

Over an investigation that no one can seem to find any evidence of and appears to have been fabricated after the fact?

Yet documents show the administration liked him?

Team Obama loved Victor Shokin, so why did Joe Biden get him fired?

Joe Biden bragged of having Ukraine prosecutor Victor Shokin fired for corruption. Now it looks certain he had him fired to help Hunter Biden.

nypost.com

 

[Marener]

Fabricated? Why did Biden want him fired? What was the reasoning? Why some random prosecutor?

Shokin was protecting the corrupt prosecutors in the PGO, and probably was corrupt himself. The State Dept was investing resources into Ukraine to try to clean it up, and it was absolutely necessary the justice system be improved before any serious progress could be made. Shokin was standing in the way of these efforts, repeatedly blocking efforts to weed out bad prosecutors and failing to delivery any substantive prosecutions of the widespread corruption throughout the government.

He wasn't a random prosecutor. He was the head of the Ukranian equivalent of the DoJ.

This has all been known for years.

 

[Marener]

Yet documents show the administration liked him?

Team Obama loved Victor Shokin, so why did Joe Biden get him fired?

Joe Biden bragged of having Ukraine prosecutor Victor Shokin fired for corruption. Now it looks certain he had him fired to help Hunter Biden.

nypost.com

They didn't. This is spin. If you read this letter, which is from just a few months after he was appointed, it's praising the Ukranian government's passing reform laws to help clean up the PGO. The letter implores Shokin to administer these laws and do the actual work of cleaning it up.

This is why you can't trust the NY Post. They're all narrative, and exclude any information that runs counter.
Things started to get bad in the fall of 2015. That's when the State Dept started to push for his removal.

Here's something you won't see the NY Post acknowledge.

Prosecutors In Ukraine Slammed

The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine has accused the country’s Prosecutor-General’s Office of obstructing efforts to combat corruption and shielding its own employees from graft investigations.

www.rferl.org

The NY Post is censoring it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

They didn't. This is spin. If you read this letter, which is from just a few months after he was appointed, it's praising the Ukranian government's passing reform laws to help clean up the PGO. The letter implores Shokin to administer these laws and do the actual work of cleaning it up.

This is why you can't trust the NY Post. They're all narrative, and exclude any information that runs counter.
Things started to get bad in the fall of 2015. That's when the State Dept started to push for his removal.

Here's something you won't see the NY Post acknowledge.

Prosecutors In Ukraine Slammed

The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine has accused the country’s Prosecutor-General’s Office of obstructing efforts to combat corruption and shielding its own employees from graft investigations.

www.rferl.org

The NY Post is censoring it.

So firing one person who was coincidentally investigating Burisma allowed Ukraine to get a Billion USD. And you find zero suspicion about that? None?

This a lie too?

Hunter wrote in emails retrieved from his former laptop that he had to give “half” of his income to Joe Biden and the Oversight Committee in May identified nine Biden family members who allegedly received foreign revenue.

IRS whistleblowers Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler, who investigated Hunter over potential tax crimes for three and five years, respectively, said Justice Department officials blocked them from investigating Joe Biden’s role in business dealings — despite communications directly implicating him.

 

[Marener]

So firing one person who was coincidentally investigating Burisma allowed Ukraine to get a Billion USD. And you find zero suspicion about that? None?

This a lie too?

Hunter wrote in emails retrieved from his former laptop that he had to give “half” of his income to Joe Biden and the Oversight Committee in May identified nine Biden family members who allegedly received foreign revenue.

IRS whistleblowers Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler, who investigated Hunter over potential tax crimes for three and five years, respectively, said Justice Department officials blocked them from investigating Joe Biden’s role in business dealings — despite communications directly implicating him.

There was no discernable investigation into Burisma. The supposed investigation is alleged by Shokin and appears to have no substantiation.

For it to be suspicious, it first has to be real.

 

[Care4all]

Fabricated? Why did Biden want him fired? What was the reasoning? Why some random prosecutor?

Google is your friend! Do some research of your own, for self enlightenment!

Prosecutors In Ukraine Slammed

The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine has accused the country’s Prosecutor-General’s Office of obstructing efforts to combat corruption and shielding its own employees from graft investigations.

www.rferl.org

September 25, 2015 17:49 GMT
The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine has accused the country’s Prosecutor-General’s Office of obstructing efforts to combat corruption and shielding its own employees from graft investigations.

Western governments supporting Ukraine’s reform agenda have repeatedly stressed the need for Kyiv to tackle endemic corruption. But the comments by Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt were unusually blunt for a U.S. official speaking before the public.

Pyatt told a group of business executives and investors in Odesa that the Prosecutor-General’s Office is an “obstacle” to anticorruption reforms by failing to “successfully fight internal corruption."

“Rather than supporting Ukraine’s reforms and working to root out corruption, corrupt actors within the Prosecutor-General’s Office are making things worse by openly and aggressively undermining reform,” Pyatt said in the September 24 speech.

“They intimidate and obstruct the efforts of those working honestly on reform initiatives within that same office,” Pyatt said. “The United States stands behind those who challenge these bad actors."

There was no immediate reaction to Pyatt's comments, either by the Prosecutor-General’s Office or by the government of President Petro Poroshenko.

He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General’s Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in “illicit assets” that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.

Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.

Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.

Pyatt said that “those responsible for subverting the case” against Zlochevskiy “should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated.”

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Google is your friend! Do some research of your own, for self enlightenment!

Prosecutors In Ukraine Slammed

The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine has accused the country’s Prosecutor-General’s Office of obstructing efforts to combat corruption and shielding its own employees from graft investigations.

www.rferl.org

September 25, 2015 17:49 GMT
The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine has accused the country’s Prosecutor-General’s Office of obstructing efforts to combat corruption and shielding its own employees from graft investigations.

Western governments supporting Ukraine’s reform agenda have repeatedly stressed the need for Kyiv to tackle endemic corruption. But the comments by Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt were unusually blunt for a U.S. official speaking before the public.

Pyatt told a group of business executives and investors in Odesa that the Prosecutor-General’s Office is an “obstacle” to anticorruption reforms by failing to “successfully fight internal corruption."

“Rather than supporting Ukraine’s reforms and working to root out corruption, corrupt actors within the Prosecutor-General’s Office are making things worse by openly and aggressively undermining reform,” Pyatt said in the September 24 speech.

“They intimidate and obstruct the efforts of those working honestly on reform initiatives within that same office,” Pyatt said. “The United States stands behind those who challenge these bad actors."

There was no immediate reaction to Pyatt's comments, either by the Prosecutor-General’s Office or by the government of President Petro Poroshenko.

He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General’s Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in “illicit assets” that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.

Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.

Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.

Pyatt said that “those responsible for subverting the case” against Zlochevskiy “should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated.”

Google isn’t my friend

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Google is your friend! Do some research of your own, for self enlightenment!

Prosecutors In Ukraine Slammed

The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine has accused the country’s Prosecutor-General’s Office of obstructing efforts to combat corruption and shielding its own employees from graft investigations.

www.rferl.org

September 25, 2015 17:49 GMT
The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine has accused the country’s Prosecutor-General’s Office of obstructing efforts to combat corruption and shielding its own employees from graft investigations.

Western governments supporting Ukraine’s reform agenda have repeatedly stressed the need for Kyiv to tackle endemic corruption. But the comments by Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt were unusually blunt for a U.S. official speaking before the public.

Pyatt told a group of business executives and investors in Odesa that the Prosecutor-General’s Office is an “obstacle” to anticorruption reforms by failing to “successfully fight internal corruption."

“Rather than supporting Ukraine’s reforms and working to root out corruption, corrupt actors within the Prosecutor-General’s Office are making things worse by openly and aggressively undermining reform,” Pyatt said in the September 24 speech.

“They intimidate and obstruct the efforts of those working honestly on reform initiatives within that same office,” Pyatt said. “The United States stands behind those who challenge these bad actors."

There was no immediate reaction to Pyatt's comments, either by the Prosecutor-General’s Office or by the government of President Petro Poroshenko.

He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General’s Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in “illicit assets” that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.

Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.

Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.

Pyatt said that “those responsible for subverting the case” against Zlochevskiy “should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated.”

Here is the issue. There isn’t an unbiased news source. So we can copy and paste numerous articles and all will be biased one way or another. So we need to use common sense. To anyone with an IQ above 5, Hunter was hired by Burisma and paid extremely well for his name and influence. Joe had the prosecutor fired because he was investigating Burisma and all the deals Hunter made, Joe got a cut.

Even biased CNN called Joe a liar. You do you. But you’re not an honest person.

 

[Winco]

No it hasn't, asshole, and you know it. If it had, then you could post a quote right here in a matter of seconds. You can't do that. Can you?

Timeline: Trump, Giuliani, Bidens, and Ukraine (updated)

A chronology of "Ukrainegate" and the Trump-Giuliani pressure on Ukraine to investigate former Vice President and 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden.

www.justsecurity.org

 

[Marener]

Here is the issue. There isn’t an unbiased news source. So we can copy and paste numerous articles and all will be biased one way or another. So we need to use common sense. To anyone with an IQ above 5, Hunter was hired by Burisma and paid extremely well for his name and influence. Joe had the prosecutor fired because he was investigating Burisma and all the deals Hunter made, Joe got a cut.

Even biased CNN called Joe a liar. You do you. But you’re not an honest person.

Here's the issue. You'll ignore anything that doesn't fit your narrative and blame "media bias".

You don't have common sense. You have narrative. You aren't an honest person.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Here's the issue. You'll ignore anything that doesn't fit your narrative and blame "media bias".

You don't have common sense. You have narrative. You aren't an honest person.

You’re speaking for yourself. You seriously believe that neither Hunter nor Joe ever lied or did anything wrong. You’re an evil awful person. I am 100% honest. You’re a pussy.

 

[Care4all]

Here is the issue. There isn’t an unbiased news source. So we can copy and paste numerous articles and all will be biased one way or another. So we need to use common sense. To anyone with an IQ above 5, Hunter was hired by Burisma and paid extremely well for his name and influence. Joe had the prosecutor fired because he was investigating Burisma and all the deals Hunter made, Joe got a cut.

Even biased CNN called Joe a liar. You do you. But you’re not an honest person.

You are being dishonest about Shokin being fired, for purely partisan reasons. You know it and I know it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You are being dishonest about Shokin being fired, for purely partisan reasons. You know it and I know it.

Disagree and you totally ignored my post. Shows I am right.

 

[Marener]

You’re speaking for yourself. You seriously believe that neither Hunter nor Joe ever lied or did anything wrong. You’re an evil awful person. I am 100% honest. You’re a pussy.

I'm speaking as someone who is a lot better informed than you.

You are making excuses to ignore anything which contradicts your narrative. You are too afraid to reckon with it.