Climate Scientist: We Don't Need Data, You Can See Global Warming on TV

[Toddsterpatriot]

You apparently are rejecting the carbon dating of that which was under more than a mile of ice on Greenland as evidence, and the well documented "North American Ice Age."

But you don't offer anything to refute, because it would be laughable...

I'm pointing out your failure to provide proof of your silly claim.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"the last Ice Age" is when NA was frozen past Indiana...

Dummies thought that meant everything was frozen, including ocean and Greenland. In fact, just NA was frozen, while Greenland was entirely green right next to NA...

ICE AGES are CONTINENT SPECIFIC.

Dummies thought that meant everything was frozen, including ocean and Greenland. In fact, just NA was frozen, while Greenland was entirely green right next to NA...

At what period in time did this green Greenland occur next to a frozen NA?
Hint: Saying a million years ago, especially with no link, is not proof of your claim.

 

[jc456]

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green

"The oldest ever recovered DNA samples have been collected from under more than a mile of Greenland ice, and their analysis suggests the island was much warmer during the last Ice Age than previously thought.

The DNA is proof that sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest that was home to alder, spruce and pine trees, as well as insects such as butterflies and beetles."

For the record, I am NOT disagreeing with you. For the sake of substantive argument, please divulge your source.

just wondering who took the photos back 450,000 years ago. Seems like what you're asking.

Nope, not what I'm asking, but nice try. I am looking for the source of the posted quote, or did I miss it?

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out. The two timelines don't meet. Now if you challenge the link, then you must want evidence like photos. I don't think kodak was around in either time. So, you'd be SOL

 

[jc456]

"the last Ice Age" is when NA was frozen past Indiana...

Dummies thought that meant everything was frozen, including ocean and Greenland. In fact, just NA was frozen, while Greenland was entirely green right next to NA...

ICE AGES are CONTINENT SPECIFIC.

Dummies thought that meant everything was frozen, including ocean and Greenland. In fact, just NA was frozen, while Greenland was entirely green right next to NA...

At what period in time did this green Greenland occur next to a frozen NA?
Hint: Saying a million years ago, especially with no link, is not proof of your claim.

well if you took both timelines he provided, you'd see that the Greenland link stated it was green 450,000 to 800,000 years ago, and in the North America link it stated that NA was ice free 10,000 years ago. Green vs ice

 

[LaDexter]

At what period in time did this green Greenland occur next to a frozen NA?
Hint: Saying a million years ago, especially with no link, is not proof of your claim.

LOL!!!

Yes, proven is the fact that Greenland's ice age began no more than 800k years ago. Then the question becomes the timeline of the NA ice age.

Indiana Geological Survey - Ice Age in Indiana

"Geologists also refer to this time as the Pleistocene, a formal period of geologic time that began 2 million years ago and technically ended 10,000 years ago. "






The above map shows what every other map of the North American ice age shows, glaciers all over Canada down to Indiana etc. What is WRONG with this is, of course, the fact that GREENLAND was NOT FROZEN during that time, especially since the map fails to recognize tectonic movement...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green

"The oldest ever recovered DNA samples have been collected from under more than a mile of Greenland ice, and their analysis suggests the island was much warmer during the last Ice Age than previously thought.

The DNA is proof that sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest that was home to alder, spruce and pine trees, as well as insects such as butterflies and beetles."

For the record, I am NOT disagreeing with you. For the sake of substantive argument, please divulge your source.

just wondering who took the photos back 450,000 years ago. Seems like what you're asking.

Nope, not what I'm asking, but nice try. I am looking for the source of the posted quote, or did I miss it?

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out. The two timelines don't meet. Now if you challenge the link, then you must want evidence like photos. I don't think kodak was around in either time. So, you'd be SOL

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out.

No. He did not post a link that said
"this many years ago, Greenland was green and at the same time NA was in an ice age".

Maybe you can help him out?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

At what period in time did this green Greenland occur next to a frozen NA?
Hint: Saying a million years ago, especially with no link, is not proof of your claim.

LOL!!!

Yes, proven is the fact that Greenland's ice age began no more than 800k years ago. Then the question becomes the timeline of the NA ice age.

Indiana Geological Survey - Ice Age in Indiana

"Geologists also refer to this time as the Pleistocene, a formal period of geologic time that began 2 million years ago and technically ended 10,000 years ago. "






The above map shows what every other map of the North American ice age shows, glaciers all over Canada down to Indiana etc. What is WRONG with this is, of course, the fact that GREENLAND was NOT FROZEN during that time, especially since the map fails to recognize tectonic movement...

We're still in an Ice Age, so you need to be more specific with the time periods .

What is WRONG with this is, of course, the fact that GREENLAND was NOT FROZEN during that time

I see, not only do you not have a link proving your claim, the links you provide are wrong, because they disprove your claim. DERP!

 

[mamooth]

especially since the map fails to recognize tectonic movement...

As has been pointed out to you before, there is no tectonic movement between Greenland and North America. Greenland is part of the North American plate, and it moves along with North America.

And the rate ... 1.2 cm/year, towards the WSW. Over a million years, that's 100 miles, not enough to shift climate.

Your theory, like every theory you state, is totally 'effin retarded.

 

[jc456]

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green

"The oldest ever recovered DNA samples have been collected from under more than a mile of Greenland ice, and their analysis suggests the island was much warmer during the last Ice Age than previously thought.

The DNA is proof that sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest that was home to alder, spruce and pine trees, as well as insects such as butterflies and beetles."

For the record, I am NOT disagreeing with you. For the sake of substantive argument, please divulge your source.

just wondering who took the photos back 450,000 years ago. Seems like what you're asking.

Nope, not what I'm asking, but nice try. I am looking for the source of the posted quote, or did I miss it?

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out. The two timelines don't meet. Now if you challenge the link, then you must want evidence like photos. I don't think kodak was around in either time. So, you'd be SOL

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out.

No. He did not post a link that said
"this many years ago, Greenland was green and at the same time NA was in an ice age".

Maybe you can help him out?

It's there in his two posts you don't like it you can get fkd

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

For the record, I am NOT disagreeing with you. For the sake of substantive argument, please divulge your source.

just wondering who took the photos back 450,000 years ago. Seems like what you're asking.

Nope, not what I'm asking, but nice try. I am looking for the source of the posted quote, or did I miss it?

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out. The two timelines don't meet. Now if you challenge the link, then you must want evidence like photos. I don't think kodak was around in either time. So, you'd be SOL

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out.

No. He did not post a link that said
"this many years ago, Greenland was green and at the same time NA was in an ice age".

Maybe you can help him out?

It's there in his two posts you don't like it you can get fkd

Look, one moron can't help the other, what a surprise.

 

[jc456]

just wondering who took the photos back 450,000 years ago. Seems like what you're asking.

Nope, not what I'm asking, but nice try. I am looking for the source of the posted quote, or did I miss it?

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out. The two timelines don't meet. Now if you challenge the link, then you must want evidence like photos. I don't think kodak was around in either time. So, you'd be SOL

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out.

No. He did not post a link that said
"this many years ago, Greenland was green and at the same time NA was in an ice age".

Maybe you can help him out?

It's there in his two posts you don't like it you can get fkd

Look, one moron can't help the other, what a surprise.

Datas out no need to help. Too bad forayou

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nope, not what I'm asking, but nice try. I am looking for the source of the posted quote, or did I miss it?

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out. The two timelines don't meet. Now if you challenge the link, then you must want evidence like photos. I don't think kodak was around in either time. So, you'd be SOL

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out.

No. He did not post a link that said
"this many years ago, Greenland was green and at the same time NA was in an ice age".

Maybe you can help him out?

It's there in his two posts you don't like it you can get fkd

Look, one moron can't help the other, what a surprise.

Datas out no need to help. Too bad forayou

Lots of posts, zero proof.

 

[jc456]

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out. The two timelines don't meet. Now if you challenge the link, then you must want evidence like photos. I don't think kodak was around in either time. So, you'd be SOL

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out.

No. He did not post a link that said
"this many years ago, Greenland was green and at the same time NA was in an ice age".

Maybe you can help him out?

It's there in his two posts you don't like it you can get fkd

Look, one moron can't help the other, what a surprise.

Datas out no need to help. Too bad forayou

Lots of posts, zero proof.

Proof of what? You think he'll have photos? So you think Kodak was around 450,000 years ago wow talk about Derp, Derp

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

well he posted links to both when Greenland was green and when North America came out.

No. He did not post a link that said
"this many years ago, Greenland was green and at the same time NA was in an ice age".

Maybe you can help him out?

It's there in his two posts you don't like it you can get fkd

Look, one moron can't help the other, what a surprise.

Datas out no need to help. Too bad forayou

Lots of posts, zero proof.

Proof of what? You think he'll have photos? So you think Kodak was around 450,000 years ago wow talk about Derp, Derp

Proof of anyone showing that Greenland was green at the same time that North America was frozen.
At the same time.
Not, Greenland was green 800,000 years ago and North America had an Ice Age 20,000 years ago.
Because those times are not the same.

 

[jc456]

It's there in his two posts you don't like it you can get fkd

Look, one moron can't help the other, what a surprise.

Datas out no need to help. Too bad forayou

Lots of posts, zero proof.

Proof of what? You think he'll have photos? So you think Kodak was around 450,000 years ago wow talk about Derp, Derp

Proof of anyone showing that Greenland was green at the same time that North America was frozen.
At the same time.
Not, Greenland was green 800,000 years ago and North America had an Ice Age 20,000 years ago.
Because those times are not the same.

Derp!!!
Timelines intersect
Where would that come from without pictures? Ice cores is all we got. You have other records? Derp

 

[SSDD]

I don't know that I have ever seen a more lazy bunch of people..."show your source"..."show your source"..."give us a link"...."give us a link"...what the hell is wrong with you people? Are you afraid that if you take 15 seconds to look that you will find out that he is right?...Well guess what...he is...

A quick google of what he is saying verifies it satisfactorily....

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green

sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest that was home to alder, spruce and pine trees, as well as insects such as butterflies and beetles.

From the genetic material of these organisms, the researchers infer that Greenland’s temperature once varied from 50 degrees Fahrenheit in summer to 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit in winter—the temperature range that the tree species prefer.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | DNA reveals Greenland's lush past

Ice-covered Greenland was a conifer forest half-a-million years ago

Oldest Known DNA Found in Greenland Ice Core

DNA Discovery Shows Greenland's Warm Past, Altering Thoughts on Climate Change

DNA discovery reveals Greenland's warm past

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070705153019.htm

http://www.au.agwscam.com/pdf/Greenland's lush past.pdf

The above links represent about 5 minutes of looking...get off your dead asses and do something for yourselves once in a while...you sound like a bunch of magpies..."give us a link"..."give us a link"...

So now if a green greenland 450 to 800 thousand years ago presents a problem with what you believe you know...then that's just too f'ing bad, isn't it?....it is tough to argue with the discovery of DNA under 2 KM of ice... One of the articles even states that the data is contrary to what we thought we knew...but then finding out that what we thought we knew wasn't true at all isn't unusual is it?...isn't that what science is all about?....

Only in climate science does the discovery that what we thought we knew isn't true spark such universal outrage and denial...grow up you bunch of pussies.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Look, one moron can't help the other, what a surprise.

Datas out no need to help. Too bad forayou

Lots of posts, zero proof.

Proof of what? You think he'll have photos? So you think Kodak was around 450,000 years ago wow talk about Derp, Derp

Proof of anyone showing that Greenland was green at the same time that North America was frozen.
At the same time.
Not, Greenland was green 800,000 years ago and North America had an Ice Age 20,000 years ago.
Because those times are not the same.

Derp!!!
Timelines intersect
Where would that come from without pictures? Ice cores is all we got. You have other records? Derp

You have ice core proof that North America was in an Ice Age at the same time that Greenland was green?
That is excellent news!!! Could you please post it so I can stop pointing out LaDerpster's failure?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I don't know that I have ever seen a more lazy bunch of people..."show your source"..."show your source"..."give us a link"...."give us a link"...what the hell is wrong with you people? Are you afraid that if you take 15 seconds to look that you will find out that he is right?...Well guess what...he is...

A quick google of what he is saying verifies it satisfactorily....

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green

sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest that was home to alder, spruce and pine trees, as well as insects such as butterflies and beetles.

From the genetic material of these organisms, the researchers infer that Greenland’s temperature once varied from 50 degrees Fahrenheit in summer to 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit in winter—the temperature range that the tree species prefer.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | DNA reveals Greenland's lush past

Ice-covered Greenland was a conifer forest half-a-million years ago

Oldest Known DNA Found in Greenland Ice Core

DNA Discovery Shows Greenland's Warm Past, Altering Thoughts on Climate Change

DNA discovery reveals Greenland's warm past

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070705153019.htm

http://www.au.agwscam.com/pdf/Greenland's lush past.pdf

The above links represent about 5 minutes of looking...get off your dead asses and do something for yourselves once in a while...you sound like a bunch of magpies..."give us a link"..."give us a link"...

So now if a green greenland 450 to 800 thousand years ago presents a problem with what you believe you know...then that's just too f'ing bad, isn't it?....it is tough to argue with the discovery of DNA under 2 KM of ice... One of the articles even states that the data is contrary to what we thought we knew...but then finding out that what we thought we knew wasn't true at all isn't unusual is it?...isn't that what science is all about?....

Only in climate science does the discovery that what we thought we knew isn't true spark such universal outrage and denial...grow up you bunch of pussies.

Hey, fuckstain, no one here denies that Greenland was green in the past.
I saw a claim that Greenland was green while North America was frozen.

Still waiting for proof. Maybe you can ask your smart photons for a link?

 

[SSDD]

Hey, fuckstain, no one here denies that Greenland was green in the past.
I saw a claim that Greenland was green while North America was frozen.

Again...not to f'ing difficult to look up if you could only pull your head out of your ass by a fraction of an inch...in fact he already gave you a link...which you clearly didn't read, but further information isn't that hard to come by....all you need do is look up the pleistocene period...which you clearly aren't smart enough to do so let me do it for you....

Pleistocene Epoch: Facts About the Last Ice Age

Pleistocene - New World Encyclopedia

ATMO336 - Spring 2012

There seems to be pretty good agreement that ice covered most of canada and the northern US at least a mile thick from around 2.8 million years ago till about 14,000 years ago...that would fall within the time frame that the greenland record says that there were forests growing....just chalk the time line conflict up to one more thing that you know that happens not to be true...

It seems pretty clear that most of canada and much of the northern US were covered with ice during the time period that the research seems to show that Greenland was covered with forest....

This is just one more thing which is typical of you and just one more reason I keep you on ignore...you are like a child...never have anything beyond one liners to say because to say more would expose the depth of your ignorance.

 

[jc456]

Datas out no need to help. Too bad forayou

Lots of posts, zero proof.

Proof of what? You think he'll have photos? So you think Kodak was around 450,000 years ago wow talk about Derp, Derp

Proof of anyone showing that Greenland was green at the same time that North America was frozen.
At the same time.
Not, Greenland was green 800,000 years ago and North America had an Ice Age 20,000 years ago.
Because those times are not the same.

Derp!!!
Timelines intersect
Where would that come from without pictures? Ice cores is all we got. You have other records? Derp

You have ice core proof that North America was in an Ice Age at the same time that Greenland was green?
That is excellent news!!! Could you please post it so I can stop pointing out LaDerpster's failure?

it was already posted, you should have read the links provided. I don't do probono work.