Classified documents discovered at Mike Pence’s home in Indiana

[Cougarbear]

Uh, wow this is one piss-ignorant Mormon Cultist. Did they give you a receipt for that brainwashing?



You mean other than the Stimulus bill that caused unemployment to drop from 6% to 3.5%. Look, bro, I know it would KILL you to give Biden credit for anything, but the economy was still shit in 2020, and Biden took the actions to stimulate it.


Which people were those? Actually, the reason why the economy recovered from Covid was because of Vaccine distribution, which once Biden sorted out Trumps fucked up rollout, you guys opposed and screamed and stomped your little feet about getting the jab. (which just prolonged the problem.)



Florida's unemployment rate was just as bad as the rest of the country. In some ways worse because tourism came to a crashing halt.

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Actually, what happened in 2010 was that Obama got less than 1 Trillion in Stimulus money, compared to the 2.3 trillion spent by Trump and the 1.9 Trillion spent by Biden. You see, you never get out of a recession with massive government spending. It just doesn't happen.

The economy was not "Strong" under Drumpf. He had the same weak less than 3% a year GDP growth that Obama had. Until he screwed up Covid and sent the economy crashing.



A couple of points here. First, incomes didn't skyrocket under Trump. They continued their same steady climb.

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Again, another misrepresentation. We are not "energy independent". Petroleum is an internationally traded commodity. We sell oil to Japan, we buy it from Venezuela.

Our net oil imports started their decline in 2006. Part of that due to greater energy efficiency, part of that due to increased production, part of that due to the market making oil production in the US more profitable. Part of that is that we make more profit exporting refined products. We never stopped becoming a net importer of crude oil.

This isn't true, either. Oil production crashed in the US because of Covid (TRUMP PLAGUE), but bounced right back. The problem is, demand increased pretty much everywhere else in the world. It really doesn't matter if the Crude comes from an oil field down the road or Saudi Arabia, it's STILL going to cost the same.



Gas stoves should be phased out because they are unhealthy. You burn natural gas with nowhere for it to go, you are putting carbon monoxide in your home. Duh.

When will we run out of fossil fuels? - Freeing Energy

Will we ever really run out of fossil fuels? If so, when will it happen? We asked the fossil fuel industry and shared their answers.

www.freeingenergy.com

Here's the problem. No matter how much we produce, there's only a finite amount of petroleum products in the world. The world will be out of petroleum and natural gas in 50 years at current consumption rates. Climate Change aside, we actually really do need to address alternatives - Bio Fuel, wind, solar, nuclear -

Out of that, I will stand on the fact Biden's Stimulus bill is part of the cause of the inflation. It did nothing to help with unemployment. I'll stand again that unemployment had to go down as business were allowed to open back up and get back to employment before the Biden shutdowns. Biden had nothing to do with this. The people rose up and said enough is enough to the communist Democrats running states and local governments. Also, Biden's boarder policies allowing millions of illegal aliens in has now taken jobs from people who are here legally. Now, we are looking at recession this year because of Biden's energy policies.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Left wing talking point lies is all you have? Why did Putin attack only when a Democrat President is in the Oval Office?

President Trump emerged from his historic summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki on Monday saying he doesn’t believe that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

“I don’t see any reason why it would be,” Trump said during a joint press conference with Putin following their discussions. “President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.”

But Putin himself acknowledged that he preferred Trump over Hillary Clinton in the election. “Yes, I did,” he said. “Because he talked about bringing the U.S.-Russia relationship back to normal.”

Trump said the pair “spent a great deal of time” in their discussions on Moscow’s alleged meddling.

Putin told reporters that Trump raised the issue of so-called election interference in their one-on-one talks.

“The Russian state has never interfered and is not going to interfere into internal American affairs, including election process,” Putin said through a translator. “Any specific material, if such things arise, we are willing to analyze together.”

Putin’s denial, and Trump’s seeming acceptance of it, flies in the face of the conclusion of six top U.S. intelligence agencies that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election. In early January 2017, the office of the director of national intelligence released a report concluding with “high confidence” that Putin “ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election.” Putin’s goals, the report said, were to “undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency” — and to boost Trump’s election chances.

Trump had the election stolen and the continuance of more Islamic countries stopped because Biden is anti-Israel as was Obama.

Why is it not ANY court all the way up to the Supreme Court would not even hear that bullshit.

Saudi Arabia was next on the the signing with Israel. But, Biden put a screeching halt to that as with other countries.

Do you have a link showing where Biden did that?

But, as more and more were ready to sign with Israel, that would have forced the Palestinians to the table and leave Iran hanging to dry on the vine. But, stupid Democrats voted for the old windbag Biden and now we have violence there again. Way to go Democrats and Rhino Bush Republicans as well.

Anything to back any of that up?

We aren't at war with NK yet because of what Trump did.

Really? How many years has there been a cease fire in the Korean War?

But, we see Rocket Man starting up again shooting missiles. Biden is weak as are all Democrats.

List of North Korean missile tests - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That's what Putin sees too. Way to go Democrats and stupid Rhino Republicans. All because of the meanie Trump. As Reagan said, Peace through Strength, not the Democrat weaklings.

As usual nothing but right wing talking points.

 

[Cougarbear]

President Trump emerged from his historic summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki on Monday saying he doesn’t believe that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

“I don’t see any reason why it would be,” Trump said during a joint press conference with Putin following their discussions. “President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.”

But Putin himself acknowledged that he preferred Trump over Hillary Clinton in the election. “Yes, I did,” he said. “Because he talked about bringing the U.S.-Russia relationship back to normal.”

Trump said the pair “spent a great deal of time” in their discussions on Moscow’s alleged meddling.

Putin told reporters that Trump raised the issue of so-called election interference in their one-on-one talks.

“The Russian state has never interfered and is not going to interfere into internal American affairs, including election process,” Putin said through a translator. “Any specific material, if such things arise, we are willing to analyze together.”

Putin’s denial, and Trump’s seeming acceptance of it, flies in the face of the conclusion of six top U.S. intelligence agencies that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election. In early January 2017, the office of the director of national intelligence released a report concluding with “high confidence” that Putin “ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election.” Putin’s goals, the report said, were to “undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency” — and to boost Trump’s election chances.

Why is it not ANY court all the way up to the Supreme Court would not even hear that bullshit.

Do you have a link showing where Biden did that?

Anything to back any of that up?

Really? How many years has there been a cease fire in the Korean War?

List of North Korean missile tests - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As usual nothing but right wing talking points.

Yet, Putin attacks Ukraine before Trump and after Trump. This is the only fact. Your stuff is nonsense and hyperbole. Let's try to also remember Trump bombed Russians inside of Syria. Putin knew that Trump meant business to stay out of Ukraine. As soon as Biden enters and sees how a dunce exits Afghanistan, Putin attacks Ukraine. That's all the back up we need. Biden is in bed with Ukraine and must help them because Hunter manufactured a way for Joe to get paid from them and China. And now, both countries have Joe blackmailed.

As for the Abraham Accords and the peace deals with more Muslim countries: Trump: Up to 10 countries set for peace with Israel, ‘largely after’ elections
But, with Democrats taking power, there is no reason for this now. Stupid Americans voting for Democrats. Drive up war, inflation, gasoline, crime in cities and much more.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Yet, Putin attacks Ukraine before Trump and after Trump. This is the only fact. Your stuff is nonsense and hyperbole. Let's try to also remember Trump bombed Russians inside of Syria. Putin knew that Trump meant business to stay out of Ukraine. As soon as Biden enters and sees how a dunce exits Afghanistan, Putin attacks Ukraine. That's all the back up we need. Biden is in bed with Ukraine and must help them because Hunter manufactured a way for Joe to get paid from them and China. And now, both countries have Joe blackmailed.

As for the Abraham Accords and the peace deals with more Muslim countries: Trump: Up to 10 countries set for peace with Israel, ‘largely after’ elections
But, with Democrats taking power, there is no reason for this now. Stupid Americans voting for Democrats. Drive up war, inflation, gasoline, crime in cities and much more.

LOL, what a joke.

 

[JoeB131]

Out of that, I will stand on the fact Biden's Stimulus bill is part of the cause of the inflation. It did nothing to help with unemployment. I'll stand again that unemployment had to go down as business were allowed to open back up and get back to employment before the Biden shutdowns.

Dude, are you fucking serious? The shutdowns happened under Trump... not Biden.

Yet, Putin attacks Ukraine before Trump and after Trump. This is the only fact. Your stuff is nonsense and hyperbole. Let's try to also remember Trump bombed Russians inside of Syria. Putin knew that Trump meant business to stay out of Ukraine.

Wow, you know, this is the problem with cult thinking. Putin never stopped attacking the Ukraine. The only difference is under Trump they had a freer hand and no interference. Not to mention Trump's undermining of NATO.

 

[Cougarbear]

LOL, what a joke.

It's all true! 5 countries already signed the peace treaties with Israel. Others were at the table including Saudi Arabia. Partly because they hated Iran and feared Iran knowing Israel does not and could protect them. The only jokes are Democrats who want the chaos that is going on in the U.S. and the world. They thrive in chaos. Funny how Democrats used to be the party of the working class and the poor claiming the Republicans were rich and for the rich while all that has now flip-flopped. The Democrat Party is now the party of the wealthy and for the wealthy.

 

[Cougarbear]

Dude, are you fucking serious? The shutdowns happened under Trump... not Biden.



Wow, you know, this is the problem with cult thinking. Putin never stopped attacking the Ukraine. The only difference is under Trump they had a freer hand and no interference. Not to mention Trump's undermining of NATO.

Trump wanted them lifted but were controlled by Democrats in states, counties and cities. If this were not so, Florida and other states would have shut down as well. Oh, everyone did so in the beginning as Trump recommended to all. But, it was never intended to last the length it did. As you recall, the Demorats controlled the House. We were dealing with something we didn't understand at first. It was thought that separation from each other would slow and stop the spread. But, that was quickly understood to not happen. I don't disagree that Trump made a couple of huge errors. Fauci and the CDC were the first errors. He should have never allowed Fauci any control whatsoever. He should have been replaced right away when he first claimed cloth masks don't work and then ordered everyone to wear cloth masks. The, along comes Biden and for a full year and a half, keeps us shut down when it was clear that wasn't working. He lead the way shutting down schools destroying a generation so that the commies in charge of education could thrust in the destruction of CRT, the 1619 project and gender confusion lies.
Hey, the Democrat Party today announced that it is changing its symbol from the Donkey to a Condom because it more accurately reflects the Party's political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of dicks, and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed!

 

[JoeB131]

Trump wanted them lifted but were controlled by Democrats in states, counties and cities. If this were not so, Florida and other states would have shut down as well. Oh, everyone did so in the beginning as Trump recommended to all. But, it was never intended to last the length it did.

Wow, dude, seriously? Forgetting most of the shutdowns were over by June, 2020.

The, along comes Biden and for a full year and a half, keeps us shut down when it was clear that wasn't working.

What fucking alternate universe do you live in? There were no shutdowns in 2021!

 

[Superbadbrutha]

It's all true! 5 countries already signed the peace treaties with Israel. Others were at the table including Saudi Arabia. Partly because they hated Iran and feared Iran knowing Israel does not and could protect them. The only jokes are Democrats who want the chaos that is going on in the U.S. and the world. They thrive in chaos. Funny how Democrats used to be the party of the working class and the poor claiming the Republicans were rich and for the rich while all that has now flip-flopped. The Democrat Party is now the party of the wealthy and for the wealthy.

Good God man, do you spew that right wing garbage around the clock. The countries who signed that peace treaty, are the countries who haven't had a conflict with Israel in 40 or 50yrs. Republicans will always be the party of the wealthy, the Trump tax cuts didn't help anyone but the wealthy. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer.

 

[Cougarbear]

Wow, dude, seriously? Forgetting most of the shutdowns were over by June, 2020.



What fucking alternate universe do you live in? There were no shutdowns in 2021!

You are joking??? They weren't all over here in California. Yes, there were shutdowns for quite a long time. Slowly, counties and states allowed some companies to open back up. Restaurants were shutdown for well into 2021. What universe did you live in?

 

[Cougarbear]

Good God man, do you spew that right wing garbage around the clock. The countries who signed that peace treaty, are the countries who haven't had a conflict with Israel in 40 or 50yrs. Republicans will always be the party of the wealthy, the Trump tax cuts didn't help anyone but the wealthy. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer.

The tax cuts of Trump were for blacks, middle class and the poor. Nothing for the rich. Yes, the Democrats have taken over for the party of the wealthy and do the wealthy their biddings. George Soros, Bill Gates and many other billionaires. Like I said, most of the Muslim countries were ready to sign and that there are a couple that may never sign like Iran and the Palestinians.

 

[jknowgood]

You aren't arguing "logic". You are arguing "I don't want to give up my lifestyle even though it's dangerous and not sustainable."

If we have 50 years before all the petrol runs out, then we need to be thinking out the alternatives now, and there are plenty of them.

You're a fucking ignorant lying piece of shit. We are no where close to running out of oil. Your green vehicles take 3 times the energy to produce than gas vehicles and are toxic to the environment when their time has run out. In about 5 years. So fuck off once again.

 

[jknowgood]

Good God man, do you spew that right wing garbage around the clock. The countries who signed that peace treaty, are the countries who haven't had a conflict with Israel in 40 or 50yrs. Republicans will always be the party of the wealthy, the Trump tax cuts didn't help anyone but the wealthy. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer.

Your brothers and sisters benefitted from the tax cuts. But I guess someone like your greedy self didn't benefit. Welfare recipients didn't benefit, except from the low energy prices under Trump. Oops!

 

[Superbadbrutha]

The tax cuts of Trump were for blacks, middle class and the poor. Nothing for the rich.

Man go sell that bullshit to someone who doesn't know any better.

Who Benefited Most From the Trump Tax Cuts? – Policygenius

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was the biggest tax reform since 1986, but data suggest that not all Americans benefited as much as the Trump administration promised.

www.policygenius.com

Yes, the Democrats have taken over for the party of the wealthy and do the wealthy their biddings. George Soros, Bill Gates and many other billionaires. Like I said, most of the Muslim countries were ready to sign and that there are a couple that may never sign like Iran and the Palestinians.

Nope, the Republicans are the party of the rich and wealthy and they look out for them as well.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Your brothers and sisters benefitted from the tax cuts. But I guess someone like your greedy self didn't benefit. Welfare recipients didn't benefit, except from the low energy prices under Trump. Oops!

Another clown standing on top of the Big Top spewing the right wing talking points. Keep up the good work Jknownothing.

 

[JoeB131]

You are joking??? They weren't all over here in California. Yes, there were shutdowns for quite a long time. Slowly, counties and states allowed some companies to open back up. Restaurants were shutdown for well into 2021. What universe did you live in?

Illinois, they were over by after Christmas, 2020. I had no problem going anywhere I wanted to go. The reality was, of course, that with Trump's mismanagement of the pandemic, we still had to take precautions in late 2020 because he was out there undermining mask wearing and social distancing and holding super-spreader events.

You're a fucking ignorant lying piece of shit. We are no where close to running out of oil. Your green vehicles take 3 times the energy to produce than gas vehicles and are toxic to the environment when their time has run out. In about 5 years. So fuck off once again.

Uh, guy, the Oil Industry admits that we are going to run out in 50 years at current consumption rates. Those figures come from British Petroleum (BP).

The production of the vehicles isn't the problem, it's the amount of fossil fuels they consume during their lifetime and the accompanying greenhouse gases they produce, particularly you idiots who insist on owning SUV's even though you get nowhere near an off-road situation.

 

[Cougarbear]

Man go sell that bullshit to someone who doesn't know any better.

Who Benefited Most From the Trump Tax Cuts? – Policygenius

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was the biggest tax reform since 1986, but data suggest that not all Americans benefited as much as the Trump administration promised.

www.policygenius.com

Nope, the Republicans are the party of the rich and wealthy and they look out for them as well.

The tax cuts and energy programs helped the poor and middle class. Biden has gone 180 on these and now the poor and middle class are struggling. Food up again 10%. Good for the Rich Democrats who don't care about the price increases. Just listen to Biden and the rest of the Clan. Biden things everyone should drive a $100,000 electric car.

 

[Cougarbear]

Illinois, they were over by after Christmas, 2020. I had no problem going anywhere I wanted to go. The reality was, of course, that with Trump's mismanagement of the pandemic, we still had to take precautions in late 2020 because he was out there undermining mask wearing and social distancing and holding super-spreader events.



Uh, guy, the Oil Industry admits that we are going to run out in 50 years at current consumption rates. Those figures come from British Petroleum (BP).

The production of the vehicles isn't the problem, it's the amount of fossil fuels they consume during their lifetime and the accompanying greenhouse gases they produce, particularly you idiots who insist on owning SUV's even though you get nowhere near an off-road situation.

Yep and mask wearing and social distancing didn't work either. It was stupid. Those stupid 6 foot signs on the ground were attempts by the left to see if the Government could control people like good little commies. Going back over the statistics, most people that die are with Covid but not from Covid. Oh, there were places that separating people was needed like in Nursing Homes and Senior Living places. But, that was for the original strain and Delta strain. Now, I shake my head when I see people wear masks. They don't work and that's been proven.

No, that's a lie. There's hundreds of years in the U.S. of oil. By then, if you Democrats will get out of the way, we will develop alternatives that actually work. Did you see today that whales are dying on the east coast from the sounds of windmills. Of course, windmills are killing millions of birds a year too. Why don't you people allow for nuclear plants to be built?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

[quote[The tax cuts and energy programs helped the poor and middle class.

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That's the lie Trump Humpers keep repeating and hope someone will believe it.

Biden has gone 180 on these and now the poor and middle class are struggling. Food up again 10%. Good for the Rich Democrats who don't care about the price increases. Just listen to Biden and the rest of the Clan. Biden things everyone should drive a $100,000 electric car.

Yea if the Orange God had won everything would be peachy keen.

 

[Cougarbear]

That's the lie Trump Humpers keep repeating and hope someone will believe it.

Yea if the Orange God had won everything would be peachy keen.
[/QUOTE]
It's no lie. And, mostly only Democrats lie.